Passworded/Censorship

[Chaotic Heavens]

The reason I post in this part of the forums is because this is what it'll end up being. A bunch of flames with people not even thinking and understanding the posts of mine or any other post. Anyways, onto the subject.

So as we all know, Little by Little, who happens to be the 8th most rep'ed person (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/memberlist.php?postslower=0&postsupper=0&ausername=&homepage=&icq=&aim=&yahoo=&msn=&joindateafter=&joindatebefore=&lastpostafter=&lastpostbefore=&order=DESC&sort=reputation&pp=30&ltr=) in HongFire, is starting to put passwords onto re-seeds to prevent leechers from getting the precious files. Well, some people on the IRC channel (myself too), is disappointed with such actions because this goes against the whole idea of BitTorrent. First, it doesn't stop the person from downloading it so the person can spend around 5 days trying to get the file and then learning that there is a password on it. Remember, HongFire's torrents are posted on other various sites like Tokyo Toshokan (http://www.tokyotosho.com/). So if I was a random person who downloads from Tokyo Toshokan and found a link to a download that was being seeded and downloaded it. I wouldn't know that there was a password until AFTER I downloaded. Thus totally pissing me off to no end.

Do you feel what Little by Little is doing is right?

Then, in the IRC channel, we have Zephro complaining about Little by Little passwording the files. Saying that Little by Little wants people to send him PMs so he can feel superior (if you want logs, I'll give you them). However, later in the chat, Suzuran, icie, and koneko (all IRC names) were bleeping out a couple of P2P programs, which I shall not name since I swear a mod will delete this thread for sharing the wealth, that they use to download files. Mainly everything that they seed on HongFire (so really, you don't even need the program since they are nice enough to share it, sometimes). I was totally against the whole idea of bleeping it out and just saying the whole name or not saying the name at all in the channel. On the other side, Zephro and a few of the other members felt that they should keep it a secret for various reasons. For example, they were scared that leechers would go on it, thus the people using the program would ban non-Jap IPs. Or they wanted to protect ignorant people like "me", who can't tell a virus from a movie/game/whatever.

However, thinking about what Zephro said about Little by Little trying to be superior, I looked at what he, himself, was doing. Isn't censoring the P2P programs from the rest of the users on the IRC channel sort of trying to show your superiority over another person?

Am I the only one here that notices the irony or have I just gone mad? Please don't spam/flame anyone here other than me. If a mod/admin feels like this thread is getting out of hand, you have all the right to delete/close the thread. Thank you for your time in reading this thread.

Edit: Fixed it around a little bit after Suzuran pointed out my mistake. My fault, truly sorry. I feel like a total deutsch now. Anyways, you get my idea, hopefully. This post wasn't really made to target anyone specific (just so happened to be). Just wanted to point out that the do'er's intentions can be viewed differently from the victim/recipient's thoughts. Bleh. I'm a total screw-up.

[MinortyBreeder]

I had no idea this was going on. Well if any of the mods and or hongfire thinks this is wrong, I'm pretty sure they will do something about it.Yes. That crap will make me angry too, I dont even see why Little by Little started to do that. Well, I hope the problem gets settled soon.

[oink37]

you don't mean Winny by any chance ?? (because it's far from secret.. who didn't read threads about "omg I need a raw and" and the "search winny" answer :p)

I think passwording is ok if you provide the url to the forum/password within the torrent. But then what's the point of passwording ? ^^;

[Kerii]

Passwording just essentially prevents other sites from stealing your torrents to use on their own sites to generate ad revenue for themselves. :p

It's a bit of a moral dilemma. For one, the torrent databases make it easy to find what you want, but they are stealing that from other sites. So it really depends on personal preferences. :p

If people are going to use passwording, at least keep them same throughout the site. I think most of us can remember the password Valermos was using for his torrents (not counting the one I torrented for him).

As for these so called "secret" programs, they're hardly secret. They're just useless if the person doesn't know how to read/type Japanese. :p
And if they happen to know how to read/write Japanese, chances are they already know what the program is.

[S&T Kawaii Love]

Well I support LITTLE BY LITTLE in the effords to get rid of leechers. :) I think a password is a very good idea ^^. I also think censoring the famous anime,manga P2P programs by Suzuran is also a great idea. Why? because otherwise it it will become populair by the newbies and leechers too. I do think that the members of the HF IRC channel should be allowed to see it because we are a community afterall.

[newtypeal]

Thank you guys for these marvelous discussions in the Garbage and Rants section on this issue to which I (should have) been prudent, and noticed and paid a lot of attention, explaining and providing the meaning to this issue that so little of me had known before.

[brakespear]

I'm not sure on the password issue but I can't imagine Little by Little doing it to feel superior....and if the programs bleeped out were Winny and Share I believe it's probably a little to late for that

[Sphie]

I got a PM from Little By Little and I think he understood the problem (hopefully) and he gave the passwords solutions.
Still, now that you mention it, that won't be helping those who dl from others site...
I hope he won't do that thing again even though he didn't really do it to annoy people (but it did annoy a lot of people).

As for the P2P problem, I'm not going to give any more information as those programs should be kept secret from the leechers (yes, you! you know who I'm talking about!).

Also: I don't think I was the one who said this was giving him a superior feeling, it was Zephro :p

[RogerDucky]

The passwording issue is just that -- it's an attempt to prevent non-Hongfire people from benefitting from it, as well as make most people talk to LITTLE BY LITTLE a bit more. Whether you agree with it or not, it's LITTLE BY LITTLE's uploads and experiment and not a site-wide thing. So not much to say about it, really.

As far as bleeping out the P2P programs' names, and going "DIE MENTIONER OF THE P2P PROGGY!" -- it's kinda silly, yes. Of course, I thought that, besides for the language barrier, "slow" ( < 50KBps upload) nodes gets banned would mean most non-Japanese people won't be able to stay on for long anyway?

[tsuyoshiro]

Passwords are a cute idea, but if someone outside of HF wants the password for a file, he will eventually get it. Before I even joined HF I downloaded a file from here that had a password on it, took me less than an hour of recon to figure out what it was...so putting the passwords simply slows down leechers, doesn't really stop them to begin with

[jsnut]

I don't see why people make such a big deal about this password thing. Sure, it would annoy people who download from other sites but that's not the uploader's fault. If someone (most likely not the original uploader) post the torrent on other sites, he/she should give a link to where the torrent was originally posted (or a password if he/she knows it). Most likely, the info/hint about password was provided in the original post. If the person who posts the torrent on other sites doesn't give any link or password info, then it's his/her fault, not the original uploader's.

About HongFire's torrents being posted elsewhere, some people might call it distributing. But if those are my torrents and posted without me knowing it, I'll call it stealing. I don't mind any of my torrents posted somewhere else if people tell me before they do it.

PS. For the record, this message was not meant to be flaming and I didn't say any name here. So don't get offended too easily.

[Kitee]

Little by Little discussed with me way before hand about the password issue. I agreed with him and supported him for his actions. Why? He was sick and tired of people just leeching, and leeching from other sites as well. If a member from another site uploads LBL's torrents, that member would've known that the torrent was password protected. Thus it's really the fault of the that member instead of LBL being the initial uploader.

And so Little by Little password protected his torrents so it would at least prevent some leechers from download, and that's not good. Then wouldn't it be the same to "As for the P2P problem, I'm not going to give any more information as those programs should be kept secret from the leechers (yes, you! you know who I'm talking about!)." These 2 methods are both annoying the downloaders, and why should only Little by Little take all the blames?

Him wanting to be superior? His thoughts and actions are all for the well-being of Hongfire.

This post isn't meant to offend anyone, but I apologize before hand if I offended anyone.

[Z3R0 5H1F7]

If a person feels like he or she has to protect their torrents by adding a password there's nothing wrong with that if other HF members are still able to get the password,after all it IS the seeders' file,so it's at his discretion as to what he does with it.

As for 'censoring' of other p2p programs, one cannot force others to share information if they don't want to, sure you might label them as selfish or whatever but there is no patriot act on HF that enforces that 'ALL YOUR INFORMATION MUST BE SHARED!!!111'.
If they don't want to tell you or the general public,well that's just too bad. Maybe if you were to ask them personally(PM) instead of on a public forum they might tell you if they felt they feel you're privvy to that information.

[Mai Tokiha]

Well, I generally agree with your post. Putting PWs on torrents is ugly and goes against the true BT spirit. It could indeed be viewed thusly that someone who puts PWs on the torrents wants to feel superior.

However, this bit of your post did make me mad:

Edit: Fixed it around a little bit after Suzuran pointed out my mistake. My fault, truly sorry. I feel like a total deutsch now.
So you're inferring that being "deutsch" is a bad thing!? :mad:
I'm sure that also offended some others. You should be more considerate in what you say :mad:

[Iruka]

Chao~

Knowing Little by Little a little (pun) he's not the type of person who wants to gain reputation by setting up those stupid passwords, as least I think so. And does passwords have any effect in stopping leechers? I'd agree with tsuyoshiro and say no. I mean, they still downloaded it, which means they've already taken the bandwidth from others? Or maybe I'm not getting the point here?? *kusu kusu* >_<

[Kerii]

So you're inferring that being "deutsch" is a bad thing!? :mad:
I'm sure that also offended some others. You should be more considerate in what you say :mad:I'm sure what ChaoticHeavens meant to say was douche, short for the slang douche bag. Usually used in referencing to being an asshole/idiot/whatever you want.

The more traditional meaning being a female hygiene item:
http://narang.com/instructions/douchebagset.html

[AvatarStormBringer]

I've said this in irc and I will say it one last time here.

1. LBL posted the method of getting the password in the below link as well as having disclaimer in his torrent thread that it's password protected. I'm sure lots of people here knows how to crack rar files password anyway from what I've seen on other threads.

2. Why did he do it? Read http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15134 Note that I didn't specify which post? Same issue as mentioned in the thread. READ!

3. LBL has contributed a lot, both torrents and posts. He's not the kind of A$$hole some people claims him to be.

This is a general post. If you're offended then you're taking your net life too seriously.

[dnbraven]

50 kbytes upload you say?! Cable increased the download speed but they wouldn't increase the upload. -_-' Friggin douchebags! << a good use of a word douche

Anyway, I think setting a password on a torrent is ok, though it truly is annoying and is not welcome by most - it is the seeders right to do whatever he wants to a torrent. =)
But I'd rather see what properties an uploaded torrent has before hand. Having a password posted along with the torrent is a very nice thing to do too.

[kakunou]

As far as bleeping out the P2P programs' names, and going "DIE MENTIONER OF THE P2P PROGGY!" -- it's kinda silly, yes.
Some people would rather not deal with the many people who play this silly game, nor do they want to deal with the angry flames from those users for mentioning such applications "out in the open and letting leechers know". So some just play along and do as to not have to end up in a trivial argument over something as stupid as a mentioning a widely-known program name.

I find the actions, behavior, and/or conduct of some members on both sides of the issue earlier in the channel today as very childish and immature, even from some of the "respectable" and/or "VIP/Donor/etc" members in the community. If you disagree and think that the conduct was perfectly acceptable, then, fine, you are allowed that opinion; I, among others, just happen to disagree.

[AnimeWerewolf]

a better solution to cut down on the number of hit and run leechers is to put the whole of the torrent
sections under the same members only access restriction that the hentai sections have in place !
although it still doesn't prevent someone from taking a torrent from here and uploading it
somewhere else ofcourse since we allow such things to be done here i doubt anything
will be done about that little loop hole in the system after all fair is fair isn't it ?

btw , if you do insist on pass protecting your uploaded files just make sure that
you include in the torrent header and name that it's ( pass protected ! ) thus
that should prevent all but the dumbest of leeches from downloading it ...

@ dnbraven , lol i know what you mean i'm on rr with dl that can hit over
500kb ! and ul that celings at only a little over 40kb ! that is a bit
lop sided to say the least but what else is there ?

[crot]

I don't know much about Little by Little (only have some PM with him) but i think he is a nice person and i don't think he do that to be superior .About the password protection ,i think there's nothing wrong with it but he should warn people about it in his post(torrent)so they know about it before download.
Edit:Sorry i've not read other posts careful enough.

[jsnut]

LBL does say in the post that the file is password protected and people who download the torrent directly from here should know about that (if they read the post, of course). Those who download the torrent from somewhere else might not know about it until they get the file and try to uncompress it but that's not LBL's fault anyway.

[crot]

LBL does say in the post that the file is password protected and people who download the torrent directly from here should know about that (if they read the post, of course).
Sorry,i didn't go to the torrent section much so i don't know about that.
And like you've said

If someone (most likely not the original uploader) post the torrent on other sites, he/she should give a link to where the torrent was originally posted (or a password if he/she knows it). Most likely, the info/hint about password was provided in the original post. If the person who posts the torrent on other sites doesn't give any link or password info, then it's his/her fault, not the original uploader's.
Then,LITTLE BY LITTLE didn't do anything wrong.
Edit:

1. LBL posted the method of getting the password in the below link as well as having disclaimer in his torrent thread that it's password protected
Sorry,i didn't read your post carefully.

[AvatarStormBringer]

I don't want to be mean. But what you just saw is a fine example of what some members meant by not reading post.

Edit: Crot, please know that I don't mean to offend you. It just happened to be a fine example. I apologize if you feel offended.

[Kitee]

What is happening to the HF channel life anyways?
I'm losing my impression everytime the word IRC is brought up.
First the abusing of the girls and now this?

Little by Little is disappointed and depressed right now. He spent so much effort to upload the torrents and what he gained from them are only complaints.

[johnh]

I always enjoyed Little by Little's torrents and understand why
he wanted to use passwords. Leeching is a big problem especially.

Little by Little has always been nice and I guess that Little by Little
wanted to practice his English here as well, so I don't think he was
doing this for some "superiority" reason or whatever.

Anyhow I hope he takes a break for a while, but comes back.
Relax! :)

[Slayerjammer]

It sounds like the people who downloaded the file and can't seem to get the password and are complaining why it was passworded in the first place. I think they should be more considerate to those that upload the files, most probably assume that they have a right to the file because after they finished downloading and are like (I'm probably generalizing too much...oh well) "I got the file and I can do whatever I want with it." Then when they run into an obstacle of a password, the first ones to blame is the person who uploaded and the're like "What the...you bastard, give me the password" or "Crap...I wasted my time for downloading something I can't even play." I can understand their fustration, but they should actually find the original post where they got the torrent and read it before they complain, and if they downloaded from a different site, the posted should have posted something about a password to avoid all the misdirected rage. I think I should probably stop rambling on and say this last thing if people like Little by Little don't upload any files, who will? Would the leechers do it? Probably not.

[BOiNG!]

What is happening to the HF channel life anyways?
I'm losing my impression everytime the word IRC is brought up.
First the abusing of the girls and now this?

Little by Little is disappointed and depressed right now. He spent so much effort to upload the torrents and what he gained from them are only complaints.

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/8029/fire3fl.jpg
Oooooh....... Something smells bad here....
Everyone keeps farting at each other in this thread.
I will not be surprised to see that someone will eventually
ignite a lighter in here & set the whole thread on fire.....

HereAtThere, since you have not frequented much on HF's IRC channel, what you said or assumed is not very accurate. Oh, and the abusing of the girls have already been a thing of the past. Yes, the argument on IRC could be pretty heated at times, but not all of us are irrational. Some of them have their own reasons, just like all of us have our own opinions. Only thing is that sometimes, details of debates on IRC failed to be brought into forums accurately, hence the misunderstandings. Try joining us & judge the channel by yourself if you could (but it could be a little crazy sometimes).

What I see here is miscommunication of ideas & reactions between members (IRC & forum wise) of what they consider doing is right or wrong. All of us have our own idea on what/how to implement & improve the integrity/quality of HongFire.com. In respond to this, LITTLEBYLITTLE (LBL) experimented with his password method. The result of his experiment: some angry members. It's hard to blindly blame it on LBL. He didn't mean any harm as far as I could see from some of his previous discussions. I do feel sad for him cause' of some strong negative feedbacks he received from some members. All of us made mistakes, so it's not nice to hit him so hard. If anyone wants to argue further about this issue in different prespective, you could try joining the IRC channel. Communication on IRC is in real-time, so you could actually discuss this in more detail & also see how the actual reactions of some of the members are about this issue.

In conclusion, I'll say that the password method is a very debatable issue, but for LBL's action, I'll say that he didn't mean any harm to anyone (he even started to provide passwords publically on his thread). I'll try to hold in my fart & be neutral on this password method issue for the time being..... I would like to see how this develop further & until more information/opinions available before I could make my own judgement about this agenda. I hope that everyone will stop mentioning/arguing about LBL, & instead focus on discussing about the feasibility of the password method.

[Frosty]

<rant>

Pfft, I wouldn't back down if I were you, LITTLE BY LITTLE. In fact, I might be even more evil and not give out the password until a healthy seeds/peers ratio is achieved. Why? Read DrWise's thread (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15134) again. Anyway, don't see the problem if you simply include the password in the initial post. People should read it carefully and it'll be a good thing if leechers from other places come to HF first instead of leeching without ever knowing who uploaded it in the first place. Showing a tiny bit of appreciation or plain recognition is nice. The man is spending his own time, effort and bandwidth to provide the torrents, you know.

</rant>

Don't let this silly thing get you down, LBL.

[NightviSion]

Hmm, why is everyone jumping on LBL as if she was the one to blame!
Well on the issue of pass protecting files, I'm with her on this (LBL, I assure you, being feminine is not something to be ashamed of :) ...it also helps me a lot in typing :D )... IMO, p/w files will restrict outsiders from leeching the file, provieded that a note was given in the torrent file that it is encrypted, so if some leeched it elsewhere, they'll have that warning, and they alone are the one to blame if they d/l.

I'm saying this b/c I received a pm from her hours ago stating she was leaving you ppl, happy now! I just hope she reconsider that (not to mention, along with her endless contribution to this forum, she were the last to close one of my first threads I made when I first jointed the new forum *clicky* (http://www.hongfire.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886) :D )

As for some censoring stuff from the other ppl, selfishness is the word ,no other can describe them. Last to say, some of you are really a disease for others.

[Kitee]

......

I'm saying this b/c I received a pm from her hours ago stating she was leaving you ppl, happy now! I just hope she reconsider that ......
I also recieved a similar PM, but much worse. I also hope that the emotions were what made LBL say that.

One more member gone. Anyways, it doesn't really matter to you guys right? You just keep on saying "They come and go. Old ones go, New ones come."

[AnimeWerewolf]

this thread wasn't such a good idea seeing that Little by Little was singled out and feelings got completely trampled on !
any concerns and or issues with individual members should be handled with them in private
through the pm system and not in the open for all to see .

btw , ofcourse it matters ...

[seorang]

So as we all know, Little by Little, who happens to be the 8th most rep'ed person (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/memberlist.php?postslower=0&postsupper=0&ausername=&homepage=&icq=&aim=&yahoo=&msn=&joindateafter=&joindatebefore=&lastpostafter=&lastpostbefore=&order=DESC&sort=reputation&pp=30&ltr=) in HongFire, is starting to put passwords onto re-seeds to prevent leechers from getting the precious files. Well, some people on the IRC channel (myself too), is disappointed with such actions because this goes against the whole idea of BitTorrent.

Leeching is also against the spirit of the "true BT", yet leeching still happens.


Remember, HongFire's torrents are posted on other various sites like Tokyo Toshokan (http://www.tokyotosho.com/). So if I was a random person who downloads from Tokyo Toshokan and found a link to a download that was being seeded and downloaded it. I wouldn't know that there was a password until AFTER I downloaded. Thus totally pissing me off to no end.

Its general courtesy that you don't post other's torrents on other forums/sites without asking. I think most seeders who find their torrents posted elsewhere would be also pissed off to no end.

But why should LBL care about other sites anyway? If people can't even be bothered to go to the original site of the torrent to get it, why should she bother about them? Its not as if HF is some little-known site yet to be discovered.

So the seeders are dropping like flies. And more leeching. Sigh.

I'm with LBL. Its a wonder how people can't even be bothered to spend a bit of time getting the password (come on, its not as if downloading doesn't take time). If you're so offended by the password, then don't download.

Sure, its a bit of a pain, but it ensures that HF's torrents don't get leeched by outsiders.

[DarkSoul]

Hi all!!!.


I think there's nothing wrong by protect files with pass while the HF members could access to it.

I'll spend a very large time read a trying to understand the post but i can't understand all of them due to my poor english level. (Sorry) ^_^' (That's why i don't write usually).

See ya!!!

[Babel]

I'm sorry to hear that Little By Little has left the forums. LBL is a highly regarded member of HF (and rightly so - LBL has done a lot of work here). Perhaps experiments of this nature (i.e. passwording) should in future be instigated by the forum mods to give it an 'official' feel and avoid the petty sniping at a helpful member who was only experimenting to try to improve things here. I hope LBL comes back soon.

[The-One]

hmmmm....after reading all of this shit...yeah shit in my eyes I want to talk about it

First; irc isn't that bad......and why do ppl always remember the girls haressment on irc thread........(someone really need to move on >_> ).....we make fun off everyone on irc and if you can't handle the fun then you shouldn't join us on irc. We make fun of each other all the time let it be a guy or girl (ofcourse I'm a bit more nice to girls than guys) but it's still fun and fun it'll always be. One way to see how we react to each others is to log on irc and the lurk to your hearts consent cuz then you'll know how we are. ( Perv all of us and then there's Suzu :P )

Second; About LBL he/she did nothing wrong. I saw her thread with a game and dl (no I was not dl'ing it didn't have the time since I was seeding the stuff I just got dl'ed) and I posted that it was lame idea in my eyes and I couldn't see where she/he wanted to go with it. Later I got a PM by LBL where I was told that this was only a test where LBL wanted to see how it went and got the link to DrWise's thread which I had read before. So it was a TEST ppl deal with it!!!

Third; about putting passwords on torrents.....that is still a lame idea in my eyes. Why? you ask...Well think about it; we all go around and set passwords on our torrents (no I'm still a leecher who can only seed what I dl'ed from others :P WinME long live) everyone should then PM us to get the passwords...weeeehhh what fun we wouldn't have!!! asking and spamming eachother with PM just to know the passwords.
not to forget asking for pass 3 months after on a old torrent. See a bad idea!!

fourth; about the passwords and putting it on otehr sites without names.....that....argument was really low >_> if ppl want they can crack it and then post it other places without the name or they could get the passsword open the file and then rar it again and then post it (a rar without password this time) without the name. So you won't gain something from putting a password on a torrent.

Fifth: about P2P programs......there's winny, share, WMX and a lot others.....but.....yep I'm one of those who says "go out and find it for yourself". No way in hell I'm gonna tell about stuff I used a lot of time to find out for myself :P and about why I'm not getting it from there...well thats a himitsu (yay for WinME ;P). but about winny and share....a little knowledge in japanese comes handy when you look for stuff there and need to know the functions of the P2P programs.

sixth; about leechers....yeah it's annoying I know it but there really nothing to do about it...just think that they are sharing a little when they are leeching from the seed. even if it is a 1% of the whole file it's still something but I would still like it (like you all) if they shared the files instead of "leech and go".

seventh; about LBL again....I hope you really don't go since it was like you said only a test and ppl who makes test only do it to see if it works out or not. Haven't seen how many torrents you shared with us and I may never will but I could see on your post (no not rep points I don't care about them) that you have been active here on HF and that is what counts on HF. So even if you don't want to seed anything you don't have to leave the forum :)

eight; about if one stops his or her torrents.......yep there will be others. There always are, it's cruel it's harsh but thats reality. DEAL WIYH IT!!!
Now before getting flamed by the whole HF I jsut want to point out on the seventh message :P I don't want LBL to go but if LBL wants to stop release new stuff than thats okey it's LBL choice (maybe taking a break would be good for LBL) but I don't wanna lose LBL from the HF community >_<

ninenth; just for fun :P don't even know if I wrote that right

tenth; I remember the first time I saw a torrent on mircx and went to HF to tell him about it (yep that was really a long time ago before all these leechers and before this new tracker and site and before pai/paizu/kamenrider/etcetc went beybey) he was happy that someone posted it there since more ppl would come to the community and get the files.....*looks up in the sky or just at HK* "where are you know oh great leader we need your wisdom".....lets just keep in mind that HF wanted to make this a big and great community and get the files we shared around to ppl so they could get to know a lot more about azn stuff, not just japanese, but a lot of different asian countries stuff and culture.

PS; Again, it's not LBL fault-fault-fault-fault-fault-fault........and LBL if you read this.....don't give up or lose hope cuz of the neg posts! Learn of your mistakes and become better thats also how it is in the real life, let it be a guy or a girl.

PSS; about LBL being superior.......BVHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH man I know I want to leave this life smiling but not dying by laughing right now ( I still need to play some of the dl'ed Hgames XD) this is just too damn funny........I know this is from one of the irc chats we had.......it's all bullshit...we do that a lot on irc and you would know it too if you were there.....but then again there are some ppl who takes everything in life too serious.

Oh last thing...really....anyone wanna flame me cuz I haven't posted any torrents yet? since I have been one of the first one even before there was a forum but only a chan and not even posted a torrent? Come on I dare you!!! more like I want to get famous :P GIVE ME FAME!!! bah only suckers flame instead of discussing in rationally.

Now after making this great and big post I will go......wait I didn't want anyone to be offended by this...this was not my intention.....I only wanted to say what I had in mind about all I just read and my mind may change again tomorrow since I'm insane :P
and if you decide to fame me (yep I didn't write flame :P) then make a new post and PM me about it since I would like to see where it goes XD laterz

EDIT; since someone seems to misunderstand it when I said "Give me fame" I'll point it out...I DO NOT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD GIVE ME REP POINTS WHEN I SAY FAME)..*looks on the little bug*...XP

[brakespear]

I'm truly sorry to hear LBL has decided to go - she was one of the friendliest people here and also put a lot of work and effort into the stuff she contributed :(

[Knifes]

One more member gone. Anyways, it doesn't really matter to you guys right? You just keep on saying "They come and go. Old ones go, New ones come."

I see... :(

d-mmit! ...why did this have to happen :mad: I know I wasn't exaclty the closet person to LBL... but hey, he was a highly regarded member here on HF. But for the pw system... I think it's kinda of good idea to keep in addition to just member/junior members d/ling. Leechers will theretically be much less. There's much respect I have for the guy... and to leave b/c of the community is a disgrace to other members should be here for... we are sometimes @ssholes too...

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*bows down to a superior*

Times will change and when that time of change comes...
you will be there :)

[Akarui Kibuno]

I don't know Little by Little.

But this debate annoys me to no end. Someone wants to CONTRIBUTE to the forum by donating bandwitdth, time, energy to seed torrents, and I say, I don't care how you do it because you care enough do it.

So what ? There were passwords ? Read the damn posts, stop leeching, and learn how to get the password, and be happy you got the file!

Some people just can't stop complaining. This isn't something the seeds OWE. This isn't something the seeds HAVE to do. They care about the community, so they share stuff, and it's more than normal that they want to protect that generosity. I mean, in real life people would pay attention too, and online, passwords and whatnot are a way to slow, if not prevent, the damage done by leechers of all sorts.

Little by Little, please come back and ignore them. You leave, they win. You stay here and give them the finger, they lose.

That, and bonus for having tried to IMPROVE the community.

:claps:

[Nameless Chibi Neko]

Waaaa.... Even though I never ran into LBL, it really makes me sad to see any of our respected users leave, especially over something like this. She did nothing wrong, and it's terrible that the community in general (I don't mean everyone; just the leechers who give nothing back to the community) has fallen to the point where one of our highest-repped users calls it quits because some people are just too inconsiderate to consider her feelings. I guess it can't be helped that some people think only of themselves...

Please come back, LBL! We all miss you! *cries*

BTW: Since I never visit the torrent sections, I don't keep up to date on everything that happens there. If I'm mistaken about anything in this post, feel free to correct me.

~nyan!~

[chompy]

Namelessone613....

you joined in february....

the torrents section have been down for longer than you've been here. i guess you've never seen your ratio either...... :p

I got a PM from LBL saying she was going to leave. it was very sad, and i PM'd her right back, twice even. she hasn't returned.

this has saddened me...

I don't think it was all down to the "password" issue, (as it isn't an issue for the majority) but it certainly didn't help. i'm sure she got many bad reps and pm's from the leechers....

anyways...if she comes back, GREAT :D, and if she doesn't, i can sort of see why....

[hello123456]

i dont like that idea of passwords.
it completely ruins the idea of bt.
the more peers and seeds the beta i reckon.
better to preserve the torrent.

[Nameless Chibi Neko]

Namelessone613....

you joined in february....

the torrents section have been down for longer than you've been here. i guess you've never seen your ratio either...... :p

I got a PM from LBL saying she was going to leave. it was very sad, and i PM'd her right back, twice even. she hasn't returned.

this has saddened me...

I don't think it was all down to the "password" issue, (as it isn't an issue for the majority) but it certainly didn't help. i'm sure she got many bad reps and pm's from the leechers....

anyways...if she comes back, GREAT :D, and if she doesn't, i can sort of see why....
It's still possible to get into the torrents section by following any link directly into it (except for the one in the header)

As for my ratio, and the fact that I never check out torrents... I'm stuck with a 56K modem for the time being... u.u

I really would love to see her come back, but something's telling me that if things stay the way they are, she probably won't. Honestly, if people treated me like that, I would leave too...

BTW: Since it seems I'm not quite up to date with everything else that happened leading up to this, would you mind filling me in, or pointing me to a thread with more info? Thanks in advance.

~nyan!~

[devilokita]

Kinda sad to hear LBL leave HF. I got a chance to talk with this person. He or she was really nice. If I had a question about the torrent, a pm would come back to me after I send it. The password thing is not a bad idea. If you look at the people who download this month, its just insane. Think I was downloading two H-games this month, about 400-700 people were leeching on each of them. Insane if you ask me, not to mention that some hit and run. They don't even contribute to the community. I haven't been here too long, but at least if I DL, I UL too. LBL was willing to give her or his time to share the password, I think its not a bad idea not to mention that it was just a test. Hope LBL will consider coming back, don't let this kinda crap put you down, you did your best to contribute to the community, leaving would just waste all that work. For one thing, I appreciate what you have done and do support your experimentations with protecting the torrents wither it works or not.

[ekkarku]

y're homebrew from a Season 1 torrent that I found. The video quality is shit at best since most of the source files were only 320 x 240 and I stretched them all to 740 x 480 when Nero burnt them, plus a couple episodes are duds in that the source files where in some obscure, obsolete codec and the framerate got cut in half in the transcoding process, but all of them are watchable from as far as I've tested on my PS2.