Tips in playing Media Files

[FTStorm]

for OGM
Ogg DirectShow Filter
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Filters/OggDS0995.exe
Subtitle Filter
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Filters/SubTitDS1400.exe
VSFilter(DirectVobSub)
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84359
install prodedure: "rundll32.exe vsfilter.dll,DirectVobSub"

for MKV(Matroska)

If the page works use

Matroska Packs
http://packs.matroska.org/

otherwise use(this is the core of decoding MKV the packs include alot of sidetracks that helps if you don't have somethings installed)

Matroska Splitter
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84361&release_id=222874
VSFilter(DirectVobSub)
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84359
install prodedure: "rundll32.exe vsfilter.dll,DirectVobSub"

check this forum for more support on the issue
http://animeskyscraper.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6

[HongFire]

Good post. I will sticky it :)

[Aikousha Bouji]

You could just download VLC... It's available for numerous platforms, and plays practically everything.

Home Page: http://www.videolan.org/
Download the player: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[zatrayis]

Also as a note for anyone who not only wants to watch these but make them. DVDtoOGM, and DVDtoMKV are fairly good tools to make these files. You might want a few additional things also like SSA (substation alpha), and smartripper or dvd decrypter. Then the links above are all the tools you need to play them =)

[crystalnox]

Is it possible to do away wih DirectVobSub? Cause my video always lags behind the voice..

[Qan]

here is a somewhat more detailed guide to install the directvobsub which lets you view .ssa subtitles:
Download the zip-file http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84359, extract and copy the dll-file to your windows system32 folder. Select Run under the Windows Start menu and type
regsvr32.exe vsfilter.dll
and hit Enter. Done.

You can use this http://www.free-codecs.com/download/RadLight_Filter_Manager.htm This little tool allows you to change merit of DirectShow filters and it can also be used to list all registered codecs and to register or unregister codecs. We thought some people may find it useful. Should help fix some filter incompatibilty problems.

[sere]

I think OGM works similar as MKV.

[Sapphire]

Or use Media Player Classic ;)

[Maria Renard]

I recommend using k-lite mega codec pack, it has one of the most complete codec compilation, and comes with some players...

I think one of the better is bs-player, I never had problems while playing ogm, ogg, mpg, avi, mkv, rm, mov, etc, with this :D ...

[level3]

I recommend K-lite codec pack plus Real Alternative. I use the included media player classic instead of BS Player. No need to install the annoying RealPlayer if you installed Real Alternative.

(Mega = Codec compilation + Real + Quicktime but Real Alternative has it's only update schedule, so I recommend downloading the non-Mega Codec Pack and Real Alternative separately.)

If you don't play real media file at all (or doesn't mind installing RealPlayer), use VLC as it's probably less resource demanding.
(At present, especially WMV3, the most Real Player, and the most Indeo Video ("IV50", etc.) files are not supported by VLC and are not going to be in the near future.)

[A c E]

i still haven't had problems with PowerDVD, altho that is after I had gotten the right Codecs, i'm not the biggest fan of OGM currently

[snak3y3z1001]

does anyone know how to burn ogm on a dvd?

[Ragnax]

Can't believe nobody's mentioned ffdshow yet. Fastest codec around for DivX / XviD playback and comes with a ton of post-processing options for tweak-happy people.
New versions of ffdshow-alpha have subtitling support built into the codec, so all you'd really need is some kind of OGG or MKV splitter.
Conveniently, Media Player Classic has OGG and MKV splitting built in.

MP Classic + ffdshow is maybe the best alternative of all. You only need one codec and one player to handle virtually anything. If on top of all supported files by ffdshow and MPC you also want Real Media and Quicktime, then install Real Alternative and QT Alternative, which add support for those filetypes.

You can find ffdshow-alpha here (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow). Don't download the 2002 stable release, that's OLD, and ironically the alphas are much more stable anyway.
You can find Media Player Classic (along with a bunch of other useful stuff for all you encoding people) here (http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/).

About that K-lite codec pack; I wouldn't recommend it. It royally screwed over my system thrice, one time even wrecking basic MP3 playback because some mysterious component of that thing I had to manually unregister with regsvr32.exe had stolen MP3 playback from the default codec.
Best to go with an all-in-one solution instead of an all-in-not-well-documented-many solution, imo.

[kakunou]

Just as a notice, a more-updated, newer version of OggDS can be found here (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/), last updated on the 5th of November as of now.

Alternative method: Media Player Classic + internal demuxer + CoreVorbis (http://corevorbis.corecodec.org/). I haven't tried it.

Original thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21853&hl=oggds) over at the always-elitist Hydrogenaudio :)

[Tenchi-Kun]

I'm using VLC Media Player in the newest version (V0.8.1).
It can play everything. Even the WMV9+MP3 mix. :D
But:
Which program can I use, in order to work on or make *.ogm or *.mkv files?

[Ragnax]

I'm using VLC Media Player in the newest version (V0.8.1).
It can play everything. Even the WMV9+MP3 mix. :D
But:
Which program can I use, in order to work on or make *.ogm or *.mkv files?

VirtualDubMod is what you're looking for, I think;
http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/

[Ryudo Rojo]

Well, i have this problem playing some matroska file.
I

[Frosty]

[QUOTE=Ryudo Rojo]Also, i used VLC 0.8.1 win32 and i get sound and video but i can

[Ryudo Rojo]

Finally

[Ryudo Rojo]

Frosty, i tried your method and also works great. Thanks. :D

[MSDborris]

i downloaded the mkv packa nd installed and i am unable to play mkv file's im un-sure why. i have the mkv/ogg filter's as far as i can tell but im still unable to play the movie's that i have that need these saying i dont have the filter's ...

should i un-install everything that i have in atm and download that k-lite codec pack and see if that works ?

[srea]

Matroska pack should work. It's inculde something to play mkv file.

[MSDborris]

ok ive somehow got media player clasic to play the file in question ( ghost int eh shell 2 innocence ) but no sub's... so look's like i solved one prob only to findmyself in anouther

[Ragnax]

ok ive somehow got media player clasic to play the file in question ( ghost int eh shell 2 innocence ) but no sub's... so look's like i solved one prob only to findmyself in anouther

Try going to 'View'->'Options'->'Playback' and see if 'auto-load subtitles' is enabled.

[keroberos888]

Install the defilerpak codec (http://hellninjacommando.com/defilerpak) and media player classic (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/guliverkli/mpc2kxp6482.zip?download). Now you should be able to play MKV and OGM video.

[Lisa Hayes]

a good small setup i want to share (i'm using it)
K-Lite Codec Pack + Real Alternative + QuickTime Alternative
it should handle most of the problems...
For subtitles, use BSPlayer or VLC...

here's the link for them codecs...
http://www.free-codecs.com/
and it's mirror sites
http://www.codecsdownload.com/
http://www.free-codecs.net/

i tried the link kakunou mentioned about OGG...
but it failed when i tried playing it Hellsing (OGM format...) and YKK (OGM format too)
(must've configured it improperly...)

i've attached an OGM codec that fixes my problem... should be useful for somebody... (OGG DirectShow Filter)

[dark_angel]

is there anyone know how to convert ogm to avi ?

[Frosty]

But ok, basically, assuming you have the proper xvid codec to encode with and you are not converting the audio stream to another format....

1) Open the file with VirtualDubMod.
2) Click File, Save As
3) Save as type *.avi
4) Change Video mode to Full processing mode
5) Click Change and select the xvid encoder, fiddle with the settings if you're familiar with them
6) Finally, Save.

That's it.


Fun, being able to quote myself. Anyways, the steps are the same, and assuming you've the proper codecs, everything should work. Go to Fee-Codecs.com (http://www.free-codecs.com/) to grab anything you need, codecs or virtualdubmod.

[mahouneko]

Actually, the K-Lite Codec Pack solves the problem of installing all these codecs for you. It's a wonderful little pack of joy that everyone should really look into.

[Excellen]

Been using VLC. Looks a lot like Foobar2000.
As the earlier posts said, it plays everything and Megapacks are not necessary.

Even plays DVDs, and is a overall godsend for me as i am not technically inclined.

[dark_angel]

frosty i already try your suggest but how about the audio and subtitle?

[rhapsody9]

VLC doesn't always play mkv files smoothly, it's recommended that you install matroska pack and play the .mkv files with BSplayer.

[Frosty]

frosty i already try your suggest but how about the audio and subtitle?

Check your pm, dark_angel. I don't want to clutter up the thread.

[necronzero]

I USE WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER CLASSIC, yahoooo! this player rocks! it supports everything i recommend it

[Death.Seven]

When I play MKV files I get both voices.Does anyone know how to fix this?

I get no option to select which voice to use :(

OGM files work fine and I'm using WMP 9


By the way is Windows Media Player Classic the same as Media Player Classic?

[Frosty]

When I play MKV files I get both voices.Does anyone know how to fix this?

I get no option to select which voice to use :(

OGM files work fine and I'm using WMP 9


By the way is Windows Media Player Classic the same as Media Player Classic?

Sounds like either you don't have a stream switcher or it isn't working properly. What codec/codec pack are you using? As for MPC, yeah it should be the same thing. Unless someone means the old, unmodified version.

[srea]

I'm using windows media player 9 too. It's work fine with avi and ogm.
But when you want to play MKV that have 2 streams, you need a program (not sure if it's called morgan stream switcher or not)
Because it'll play 2 streams together if you don't have this.

If you play MKV in media player classic , looking at the option, Media player classic have stream switcher itself so it can select stream you like to hear.

[Death.Seven]

I installed Lazy man's MKV codec pack
Matroska Splitter 1.0.2.4
RealMediaSplitter 1.0.0.9
VSFilter 2.33b

Guess I need the Stream Switcher

Thanks for the help I'll go try it :D

[Frosty]

I installed Lazy man's MKV codec pack
Matroska Splitter 1.0.2.4
RealMediaSplitter 1.0.0.9
VSFilter 2.33b

Guess I need the Stream Switcher

Thanks for the help I'll go try it :D

Maybe you can try replacing all your codecs with the full matroska pack (http://packs.matroska.org/) instead, it provides support for many video and audio codecs. It'll save you the hassle of installing individual components.

[flz9636]

i suggest you use K-lite it mostly every format and files. if you get mega k-lite it can also play real one files too. here the web site where you can get them http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm

[johnblade]

Um...need help. I got a series that is in MKV file and I can play it but for somereason, it play both the english and japanese voice at the same time when the video clips is playing and I want to play only one voice. Do anybody know how to fix it. The program I use is directvobsub. Plz help.

[Frosty]

Um...need help. I got a series that is in MKV file and I can play it but for somereason, it play both the english and japanese voice at the same time when the video clips is playing and I want to play only one voice. Do anybody know how to fix it. The program I use is directvobsub. Plz help.

DirectVobSub is for subtitles rendering, you need the Matroska Splitter to be able to switch between audio streams. The first post has a link to grab it.

[Dragon_Nexus]

Well, Media Player Classic will play the OGM video for about 5 seconds...then the video freezes with the audio playing.

Everything running pretty much freezes, requiring a reboot.

I installed the k-lite codecs, and he ones on the front page.

[LotusBlade]

try vlc player

[srea]

Well, Media Player Classic will play the OGM video for about 5 seconds...then the video freezes with the audio playing.

Everything running pretty much freezes, requiring a reboot.

I installed the k-lite codecs, and he ones on the front page.
May be you can try bs-player that's with k-lite codecs.

[Ragnax]

Shouldn't have tried a codec pack to begin with.
Even k-lite, which so many people swear by. Codec packs are EVIL.

The issue with OGM crashing in MPC is probably a conflict between the OGG splitter codec and Media Player Classic's built in splitter (yes, you don't need the OGG splitter for OGM playback in MPC), a problem with unicode subtitle filters on a non-unicode-supporting system (like Win98), or a problem between Vobsub, MPC and an older version of the ffdshow codec (which I think is installed with k-lite).

[Dragon_Nexus]

Shouldn't have tried a codec pack to begin with.
Even k-lite, which so many people swear by. Codec packs are EVIL.

The issue with OGM crashing in MPC is probably a conflict between the OGG splitter codec and Media Player Classic's built in splitter (yes, you don't need the OGG splitter for OGM playback in MPC), a problem with unicode subtitle filters on a non-unicode-supporting system (like Win98), or a problem between Vobsub, MPC and an older version of the ffdshow codec (which I think is installed with k-lite).

Thanks! That helped a lot! XD

I uninstalled Kazaa Lite, and the video wouldn't play at all in classic...however just installing the bare minimum stuff and making sure FFDshow as disabled enables it to play!
Thanks =)

[ak404]

DirectVobSub is for subtitles rendering, you need the Matroska Splitter to be able to switch between audio streams. The first post has a link to grab it.
Downloaded! But where do I put these?

[srea]

Downloaded! But where do I put these?
I'm not sure what you mean. Run setup file and it can use.

[eMKa]

Matroska and KAA codec packs are optiomized for viewing anime (includedogm and mkv) files.I use it and I don't have any problems with viewing.

[DemonEyesKyo]

yea vlc player shall play ogm then dl matrosa pack and install and u can play mkv and your done woot

[kakunou]

Just a quick update.


Media Player Classic + internal demuxer + CoreVorbis (http://corevorbis.corecodec.org/). I haven't tried it.
Just tried it on a re-install. This method works nicely. :) Just remember to have "Ogg Splitter" enabled in MPC.

I still haven't tried the illiminable (http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/) filters, though.


Downloaded! But where do I put these?
I'd assume that you copy MatroskaSplitter.ax to "%systemroot%\system32\", then type "regsvr32 %systemroot%\system32\matroskasplitter.ax" in the "Run..." box. The easier way seems to be to download the installer from the official Matroska site (http://packs.matroska.org/), though.

[darklogos]

I am using core player. Not only that i downloaded the matarosaka patch or whatever its called. And i dowonloaded ogg and corevobis. I get this everytime i try to play the videos.

The Core Media Player 4.x root loaded...OK
> Loading Audio Input CDL: APE Decoder 0.7 (MAC v3.99)
> Loading Audio Input CDL: FLAC Decoder 0.6
> Loading Audio Input CDL: MP3 Decoder 0.5
> Loading Audio Input CDL: MPC Decoder 0.6
> Loading Audio Input CDL: ModPlug MOD Decoder 0.1
> Loading CDL: CoreMediaProp.cdl...Returned CORE_OK
> [OGMINFO] Loading Release version

> Loading CDL: ogminfo.cdl...Returned CORE_OK
> Loading CDL: MatroskaCDL.cdl...Returned CORE_OK
> Reading settings from CorePlayer.ini...OK
> Volume : 100, 0
> Loading Default Playlist...OK
> Checking for new versions of the player...
> Running application main loop...
> Registration & icons associations...
> Registration & icons associations...OK
> =====> Entering LoadMediaFile... 1
> Opening D:\movies\Sex Ward ep2 .mkv
> Matroska CDL: Found Matroska File
> CDL_MediaPropExec executed on Media Properties
> CDL_MediaPropExec executed on OGM Information CDL C/C++
> CDL_MediaPropExec executed on Matroska Info
> CDL_ReadTags executed on Media Properties
> CDL_ReadTags executed on OGM Information CDL C/C++
> CDL_ReadTags executed on Matroska Info
> Metadata:
> Title:
> Artist:
> Album:
> Track: 0
> Year: 0
> Genre:
> Rating: 0
> Bitrate: 0 KB/s
> Extension: mkv
> Codec:
> EncodingStyle:
> Comment:
> Extended:
> Checking header...
> Prepare to summon filters...
> Summoner cleared
> Summoner filled
> About to clear a DVD graph
> DVD graph cleared
> File will be opened now !
> Core: Init COM Interface...
> Core: Creating DirectShow graph...
> Core: Querying Interfaces...
> Core: Adding MPEG Layer-3 Decoder
> Core: RenderFile()...
> Core: RenderFile() rendering time: 2444ms
> Cannot play back the file. The format is not supported.
> TCMP's Core can not render the file : D:\movies\Sex Ward ep2 .mkv
> Cannot play back the file. The format is not supported.
> <===== Leaving LoadMediaFile. 1

What do i need to play the video. This always seems to happen with one seeders videos in paticular. Should i change the file to wmv.

[nave7693]

try media player classic.
www.sf.net/projects/guliverkli

[darklogos]

the program caused a runtime error and wouldnt start. Have any other ideas?

[Ragnax]

the program caused a runtime error and wouldnt start. Have any other ideas?Wipe any codec packs you have installed, wipe the official DivX and XviD codecs and install ffdshow.

If MPC starts crashing on you, this is usually related to a codec conflict somewhere, and 90% of the codec conflicts are caused by bloated codec packs. The only codec you actually really need is ffdshow, unless you plan on doing your own encodings.
A video codec conflict would also explain Core Mediaplayer throwing an error at the exact point where it should use your video codec to render a frame. (Well, either that or you don't even have the proper codec installed.)


[Edit]:
Also, what OS are you using?
MPC comes in two flavors for Windows; the 9x/Me build and the NT4/2000/XP build.

[darklogos]

i am runing windows me

edit: I unistalled all my players except my windows media player. I unistalled all my codecs that i have an option to remove. I installed ffdshow and I still can't play the file. I installed the Matstroaks p;ack next and it still wont play.

edit: I've uninstalled, reinstalled, tried to play the video over again. I am at the point of great frustration. Is their a converter out there I can use to watch these freaking movies. NO pack of codecs has worked with any player i can get to work on my computer.

[Ragnax]

Well, that's one problem right there; WinME. It's a piece of trash. If you insist on using something from the 9x series, use 98SE. Otherwise use XP or Server2003.

Do other .mkv files play correctly?

[The Hermit]

Until a few hours ago i had all the individual codecs installed, some of them were mostlikely out dated and some just plain didnt work right, like Vob Sub. If like me you hate dual audio, and remove the audio from the file, the old VobSub would no longer pick up the subtitle automaticly, and you had to pick it out manually.

Well a few hours ago i installed a new hard drive and was going to reinstall everything, when i was given K-Lite Mega Codec Pack, all i can say is WOW!!!!

This has all the codecs you'll EVER need built into it, including the codecs to play QuickTime and RealPlayer in WMP10. Also it has the latest VobSub and it picks up the subs automaticly, including those ive altered (YAY!!!!). Even the video quality seems to have improved on some of the older files i hav (like the original AMG OVA).

I highly reccomend everyone upgrade to K-Lite, especially since best of all its FREE!!!!!

If anyone wants it just drop me a PM and i'll email it to you.

[Babel]

I'd like to second this post - I've had the same experience. I use Klite + Media player classic now to play everything and never have to even think about it. Also, it looks like it'll be the player of choice to support the new h.264 releases (see Anime 4 ever's site for details).

[zephyranthes]

Which version is this ? I am using Klite 2.34 full version but i don't see the option to plau RealMedia and Quicktime in WMP ?

[nave7693]

WMP probably doesn't work, you need media player classic which can be downloaded here:
http://www.sf.net/projects/guliverkli
personally, I would just install real player and quicktime but never use them, except the streaming feature where you just open the video in the browser without opening a MPC window. These alternatives do have their limitations, but if you are just watching files that are already downloaded completely it shouldn't be a prob.

[Babel]

Media player classic is included in the Klite codec pack. As for real media and quicktime - I don't download or play either of those formats due to them being open to abuse. All the main anime stuff I watch is either in .avi, .ogm, or .mkv anyway.

[Lisa Hayes]

thread merged -
it would be a hassle seeing too many stickies
when there are too many stickies around.

[The Hermit]

WMP probably doesn't work, you need media player classic which can be downloaded here:
http://www.sf.net/projects/guliverkli
personally, I would just install real player and quicktime but never use them, except the streaming feature where you just open the video in the browser without opening a MPC window. These alternatives do have their limitations, but if you are just watching files that are already downloaded completely it shouldn't be a prob.

I have to disagree with you here. I use windows media player 10 and ive yet to run into any problems. WMP10 is a lot easier to get to grips with than a lot of other player like BSP and MPC. Also it has a lot of features that they dont, and is simpler to use.

I have a copy of VLC for watching partialy dled files, but other than that its WMP10 all the way. If you installed the latest K-Lite pack you can play everything in WMP10 easily.

When you install it just run down the list of installed components looking for QuickTime and Real Media, and click to install them. The makers of K-Lite also reccomend that you DONT use FFDShow since its still a work in progress and full of bugs, you dont need it if you install their pack anyway.

As for the lagging of subtitles and audio, in ogm and mkv one of the normal causes is that the the subtitles themselves are out of synch, or your using an old VobSub. If its the subs themselves, guess you need to edit the timing then :), if its the codec just get a new one.

[Ragnax]

I have to disagree with you here. I use windows media player 10 and ive yet to run into any problems. WMP10 is a lot easier to get to grips with than a lot of other player like BSP and MPC. Also it has a lot of features that they dont, and is simpler to use.Exactly what features are we talking about here? Built in splitter support for OGM and MKV? Uhmm... nope. Built in list allowing you to easily register and unregister codecs manually? (Btw; Comes in handy for those stinking codec packs that don't have proper uninstalls after they conveniently **** up your system as well.) Uhm.. nope, nuh uh. Built in subtitle filter then? 'fraid not! Loads of little features no-one really was waiting for? Check!
Every Windows Media Player after 6.4 (which, not so big a surprise, is what MPC took a look after) has been a piece of crapped up bloat, hogging an unnecessary high amount of processor time and memory. I actually checked that with Windows Media Player 9 once (before I booted it completely off my system) and playing a simple DivX 3 file with MP3 audio took 90% CPU on my 750 Mhz machine with WMP9, while it took about 60% running it in MPC. Extrapolate to the added workaround patches and extra 'features' in WMP10...


When you install it just run down the list of installed components looking for QuickTime and Real Media, and click to install them. The makers of K-Lite also reccomend that you DONT use FFDShow since its still a work in progress and full of bugs, you dont need it if you install their pack anyway.
Conversely; Three-quarters of the K-lite codec pack consists of beta and alpha codecs as well. Would you rather install a metric ton of possibly buggy codecs, or one possibly buggy codec? (Add to that; It isn't even buggy unless you start using features which are labeled as experimental and incomplete in the development logs!)



As for the lagging of subtitles and audio, in ogm and mkv one of the normal causes is that the the subtitles themselves are out of synch, or your using an old VobSub. If its the subs themselves, guess you need to edit the timing then :), if its the codec just get a new one.
Actually, this is a known bug with playing an XviD-encoded video embedded in an MKV or OGM file with older versions of the official XviD codec.
Surprise, surprise, FFDShow fixes it. For a time, even the 'official' XviD developers advised you to use FFDShow to get around the problem.

[The Hermit]

Lets see shall we, ive used DivX Player, BSP, Video Lan, MPC, and a few others, yet i always come back to WMP10. Why? Because its easy to use. So i have to install a few codecs, thats easy since the sites im getting the files from almost always give links to the codecs. So its simple to get and install them.

Windows media player is pure easy to use, drag and drop, click play. all done. Unless its dual audio in which case you need to pick you audio stream. I've yet to have any trouble with playing files in WMP10. Lets face it, WMP10 looks better aswell. I've got files from years ago and they play fine, recent files play fine, ogm, ogg, mkv, mka and a host of others all play fine. Subtitles are always fine, audio is fine.

And lets not forget the best feature of all, play lists. Sure other players have 'favorits' and 'lists' but they arent as easy to use as WMP10.

When i installed K-Lite i got BSP aswell, and just out of curiosity i tried it out. Both the AMG OVA and Movie wouldnt play in it, yet they play fine in WMP10.

I am by no means a supporter of M$, but until such times as an equivalent open source comes along, id rather use theres. As for the other codecs K-Lite installs, well shucks if you dont need them just set them to dont install. No need to install all the codecs if you arent going to be using them right?

And as for FFDShow, i neither know or care about it. I go from the information provided on the sourceforge site, and the K-Lite site. Yes it may work, but its still a work in progress and buggy as hell. I had loads of trouble originally, but suprisingly once i got rid of it everything played fine, and i even stopped having laggy subs.

But, each to their own. You hate WMP10, i dont. I dont see the need to learn a dozen other players when the one that comes with windows works fine.

[chibibot]

does anyone know how to split rmvb files that are too big for one cd? i hate this format! tnx

[The Hermit]

look on download.com for a file spliter program, there are a few out there, both freeware and share ware.

[Ragnax]

Lets see shall we, ive used DivX Player, BSP, Video Lan, MPC, and a few others, yet i always come back to WMP10. Why? Because its easy to use. So i have to install a few codecs, thats easy since the sites im getting the files from almost always give links to the codecs. So its simple to get and install them.I'm not saying installing codecs is bad, you have to install them for any other player besides VideoLan as well. And it's just as easy to use them in the other players as it is in WMP10.


Windows media player is pure easy to use, drag and drop, click play. all done. Unless its dual audio in which case you need to pick you audio stream. I've yet to have any trouble with playing files in WMP10. Lets face it, WMP10 looks better aswell. I've got files from years ago and they play fine, recent files play fine, ogm, ogg, mkv, mka and a host of others all play fine. Subtitles are always fine, audio is fine.

And lets not forget the best feature of all, play lists. Sure other players have 'favorits' and 'lists' but they arent as easy to use as WMP10.Media Player Classic is an excellent player that is just as easy to use as WMP10; it uses the old WMP 6.4 interface and builds on it from there.
If you think the looks of your player are that important, then fine; your choice. I'd rather invest the CPU cycles into post-processing the actual movie so it looks better though. I bet the looks of the player are also very important when watching your movies full-screen. As for playlists; wow, they're nice for audio files yes, in which case WinAmp clearly outdoes WMP10 in every way. They're all but useless for video files, unless the video files you're talking about are those 5 year old 5 minute realmedia splitted movie segments.


When i installed K-Lite i got BSP aswell, and just out of curiosity i tried it out. Both the AMG OVA and Movie wouldnt play in it, yet they play fine in WMP10.I have two whole series worth of VBR Divx3 movies. Playing them in any WMP above WMP6.4 the audio won't play back. Your point is?...


And as for FFDShow, i neither know or care about it. I go from the information provided on the sourceforge site, and the K-Lite site. Yes it may work, but its still a work in progress and buggy as hell. I had loads of trouble originally, but suprisingly once i got rid of it everything played fine, and i even stopped having laggy subs.So if you don't know anything about FFDShow's current state, why are you saying you shouldn't use it and should use the K-Lite pack, hmm?


But, each to their own. You hate WMP10, i dont. I dont see the need to learn a dozen other players when the one that comes with windows works fine.Guess that means no 'Windows XP - Reduced Media Edition for you then. :rolleyes:

[2gud4wrds]

I use something called bsplayer www.bsplayer.org for a good while. It plays both mkv and ogm format really nicely with audio and subtitle options so you can chose which type of language and subtitle very fast and easy. hope this helps for people who want to play thier ogms and dont hafta mess thier brain and comp up trying to download all those codecs.

[cccper]

just such in gooooooooogle
Media Player Classic v6.4.8.4 Final
&
K-Lite Codec Pack Full v2.43 Final
now enjoy~

[Sydous]

All anyone needs it Media player classic and Ace Mega CoDeCs Pack. It has everything. MPC will even play "seemingly corrupt video files* that BS palyer and VLC Player do not. It will also play files that show up white page files.

[Ragnax]

Media Player Classic + ffdshow + CoreVorbis = Done.

That's all I'll say.

[Amry]

In what can only be described as callous disregard for the forum rules, I just read the first and last page of this thread before making this post. So apologies for any repeating, spam-like posts, et cetera.

First of all, some clarification :


And as for FFDShow, i neither know or care about it. I go from the information provided on the sourceforge site, and the K-Lite site. Yes it may work, but its still a work in progress and buggy as hell. I had loads of trouble originally, but suprisingly once i got rid of it everything played fine, and i even stopped having laggy subs.

I thought K-Lite codec pack includes ffdshow in its repotoire? Well, whatever rocks your boat -- personally, I've been using K-Lite for a couple of years now, and it always able to play whatever video file I've thrown at it.

Now, for what I want to say. Personally, I think MPC is better than WMP. Still, I think the one great flaw of MPC is this; if, in Explorer, you select multiple video files, and WMP is your default player, then executing the files will enqueue all that files in a playlist in WMP. Unfortunately, in case of MPC, doing the same thing as above will only play the first file that you selected. This, I think, is MPC's greatest defect.

So, anyone has any ideas how to fix this? And a media player that "remembers" the default language (in dual-audio files) will be nice, too.

[Ragnax]

Now, for what I want to say. Personally, I think MPC is better than WMP. Still, I think the one great flaw of MPC is this; if, in Explorer, you select multiple video files, and WMP is your default player, then executing the files will enqueue all that files in a playlist in WMP. Unfortunately, in case of MPC, doing the same thing as above will only play the first file that you selected. This, I think, is MPC's greatest defect.

So, anyone has any ideas how to fix this?
Here you go; http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8307

[xcalibro]

well have read all the pages but none of them help me. what i'm looking for is a codec that plays avi files on a pentium 2 366 96mb. i have the all in one codec by Nastaveni it playes everything for me good except for [Section-9]_Erementar_Gerad_-_01 it playes for 3 seconds and the n the image just stops but the sound still play's. i use mediaplayer classic to play all my files. so can anybody help me out?

[aikawa-kazuhiko]

i need some help, i can't seem to find this codec called ogg_vorbis_3_plus (0x6771) Ogg Vorbis

[Arglebargle]

A few things- I've just got to say, I find using vlc is a lot easier than managing shady codecs downloaded from some guys website that may or may not even be the required version.
No one seems to have suggested mplayer- presumably because its windows port is relatively recent. Anyway, it supports matroska, along with just about everything else in existence.
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
I myself have never tried it in windows, since I had vlc installed from before its windows port was usable, but its linux version has played everything I've ever given it.
Anyway, what's the deal with these mkv files? I thought with ogg maybe we had finally arrived at a time when people would stop using their favorite obscure codec which no one else had ever heard of but they believe to be the best for some strange unquantifiable reason. If your codec is so obscure VLC doesn't support it (though it does support mkv), maybe you should consider not encoding with it in the first place.

[maohayato]

Anyway, what's the deal with these mkv files? I thought with ogg maybe we had finally arrived at a time when people would stop using their favorite obscure codec which no one else had ever heard of but they believe to be the best for some strange unquantifiable reason. If your codec is so obscure VLC doesn't support it (though it does support mkv), maybe you should consider not encoding with it in the first place.

there is nothing wrong with mkv. its a lot better than avi, as you can have softsubs, multiple audio tracks.

to say its obscure and not worthwile is too harsh, almost everyone is able to play mkv without a problem. alot of encodes are in mkv, especially dvd-rips. not all people use the same way of playing media files, and its not you who chooses what to encode in. you just download and watch.

the most obscurest codec I have ever encountered was vp6.

[Arglebargle]

Yeah, I didn't mean to come off sounding like I'm blaming people who watch the stuff for it, I know they are just the comsumers, and just want to watch their stuff, whatever format it is. Possibly I was also too harsh, but that last part wasn't directed at mkv specifically, but rather the use of experimental, poorly known, or low quality formats in general.
So, mkv can do those nice things, but so can ogg. Can mkv do anything ogg can't? As far as I can tell, it can't, and ogg is significantly better known (6 million vs half a million google hits, as well as my own experience), not to mention the excellent vorbis, theora, etc. aspects. (flac in particular is pretty cool for all you audiophiles- it's actually totally lossless, but still decent compression. In the interest of this post not being totally irrelevant, http://flac.sourceforge.net/ , see the download page for twenty ways to play or encode them, including a winamp plugin). So why mkv?
Anyway, I guess the mkv vs ogg question is only important as is relevant to the question of ogg gaining enough ground to become a well known standard, which, though important, is not the point of this thread.

[Ragnax]

First thing's first; OGM and MKV are containers and not codecs.

That said, there's plenty that MKV does 'right' and OGM does 'wrong'. Just check this side by side comparison (from the writer of AviMux GUI, if I'm not mistaken):
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/Video-Zeug/containers.pdf


On another note; the linked document also explains why you should never ever use Windows Media Player but should use an alternative player instead; WMP's AVI splitter is rotten to the core and several other splitters / filters / codecs, had to have had hacks and workarounds implemented into them just to get certain things running sort of okay on Windows Media Player.
I'm currently too lazy to look up who the major WMP10 advocate was that trashed all the other players because WMP10 would suffice, but I think he might have to re-evaluate his decision.

[Arglebargle]

I do not claim ogg or mkv are codecs. I brought up ogg because I am aware it is a container, hence can actually be compared to mkv.
About that guys comparison, he's comparing ogm and other things- ogm is not ogg, a distinction he explicitly makes on page 13. Tobias Waldvogel (wikipedia informs me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGM ) forked ogg a long time ago to make OGM, and has since dropped it (He last modified it in 2002), and joined the ogg team. So actually, all of the things he says mkv does right which ogm does wrong don't apply to ogg, except the "large" overhead- ogg does aim for 1-2% overhead, which I guess he's upset about, but it doesn't seem like much of a problem to me.

[Ragnax]

I do not claim ogg or mkv are codecs. I brought up ogg because I am aware it is a container, hence can actually be compared to mkv.
About that guys comparison, he's comparing ogm and other things- ogm is not ogg, a distinction he explicitly makes on page 13. Tobias Waldvogel (wikipedia informs me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGM ) forked ogg a long time ago to make OGM, and has since dropped it (He last modified it in 2002), and joined the ogg team. So actually, all of the things he says mkv does right which ogm does wrong don't apply to ogg, except the "large" overhead- ogg does aim for 1-2% overhead, which I guess he's upset about, but it doesn't seem like much of a problem to me.
True.

But even if you meant the official ogg container and not the ogm container, mkv is still better. Mkv allows general codecs like Xvid and Divx to be used, whereas ogg only allows 'endorsed' codecs. The kind of endorsed codec no video-encoder in their right mind would use for files that are not meant for streaming, and no other person has probably ever heard about.

Case in point; Ethernet.
Almost everyone has an Ethernet card -You can even get them in some supermarkets nowadays, where you actually buy a cable and get the card FREE-, and as such almost all current network technology is based on the Ethernet standard. There are dozens of better standards available, but as long as they won't support what is available right now, and what everyone is using, they will not be used.

[Arglebargle]

What's so bad about ethernet? The garden variety you find everywhere is fast enough for most purposes- certainly faster than the average persons internet connection. Additionally, there is 1 gigabit ethernet around which is a little expensive, but not prohibitively so. I know that 10/100 Mbps is all backwards compatible, and I think gigabit is too. If you really want speed, theres even 10 gigabit ethernet, though I believe that runs on fiber, so you'd have to replace all your wiring. So what are you talking about? The non-hardware parts of the protocol? I'll admit I don't know much about that. Maybe one of the wireless methods? They've all got their own unique problems, and in my situation, a wire is fine. What are these other standards of which you speak, and how are they better?
I'm not exactly sure what the comparison is, in any case. Are you saying that oggs video codec is no good, so if ogg were more popular, it would keep people from using a video codec that is better? I will assume that is what you're saying.
As far as I can tell from their website, it's not their intention for ogg to only work with other ogg-related codecs (like the ones you mentioned). If this is not currently the case, then yes, that's not a good thing. Given that theora isn't up to the job yet, it is a very bad thing. Maybe there are technical reasons why it can't without giving up some neat features, or maybe not.
My only reason for supporting ogg is that I believed it was just as good as mkv, and better known, hence mkv would be eating into its popularity, delaying my imagined golden age when everyone uses high quality, platform-independent, open source codecs and containers (Though in my world, there'd be a special, painful punishment for anyone who forked one of them without a very good reason, made it incompatible, then started encoding things with it, leading once more to multi-codec hell). The fact that I already believe vorbis and flac are the best audio codecs around, depending on use, gave me additional faith in the group. But if ogg doesn't support xvid and theora isn't ready yet, then I guess they'd better modify either xvid or ogg so they do, since otherwise, yes, it is inferior to mkv.
So when all is said and done, I have no personal stake in the mkv vs. ogg vs. anything question, I just hope that at the end of the day, we're all left using (and the open source community improving) the same one, and that the choice is based on merit, which is certainly not how a lot of things are chosen, particularly as far as media formats are concerned. If the container chosen is mkv, then that's fine.

[Ragnax]

It actually is the protocol side of Ethernet that I was mostly referring to, but I won't bother you with that anymore, because I can see my point came across. (The gist of it is that Ethernet's scalibility is horrible, which is effectively slowing networking technology down a lot.)
I hope the ogg developers wisen up and atleast find a proper way of encorporating a decoder for Xvid files of their own into the ogg project. That would go a long way to drawing more people towards ogg. You get the already established audio compression for which ogg is mostly known, but it'll also become compatible with the current leading video codec. It doesn't even have to support connecting to the 'official' Xvid codec, just make sure you can play back Xvid files with it, and the public will be happy with it.

PS: I'd rather people would settle on such an expanded version of ogg (meaning with support for Xvid) than on Matroska, since Matroska seems to have problems of its own.

[maohayato]

anyway to play realplayer files with out having to use their player?

try real alternative.
go here: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

[greattenchimasaki]

anyway to play realplayer files with out having to use their player?

[aglokis]

just wanted to say this thread has been wonderfly helpfull! yea.. thank you

[onijoseph]

just spent my last 1 hour going thru the thread. nice input =)

anyway, may i suggest zoomplayer? it let u know whether ur codec is complete or not.

btw, i found out that recent dvd movies come with external subtitle. in that subtitle folder usually have a "avantgo channel.exe". nothing seems to happen when i double click the exe. So, i need help to display the subtitle. (though i doubt it's relevent to the current topic here... anyway, any help will be appreciated.)

[cheesemidget]

I am having trouble viewing the torrents... is there a way to fix this with out downloading anything.
i have mac ibook g4 :(

[seorang]

there is nothing wrong with mkv. its a lot better than avi, as you can have softsubs, multiple audio tracks.

to say its obscure and not worthwile is too harsh, almost everyone is able to play mkv without a problem. alot of encodes are in mkv, especially dvd-rips. not all people use the same way of playing media files, and its not you who chooses what to encode in. you just download and watch.

the most obscurest codec I have ever encountered was vp6.

Does VLC work with mkv? I've tried to avoid mkv, but I guess no chance of avoiding it for much longer.

[Desmonthes]

Does VLC work with mkv? I've tried to avoid mkv, but I guess no chance of avoiding it for much longer.
avoid mkv ? :confused: :eek: the world is comming to an end :p
i see no reason to do that, actually i try to find anime with mkv format :D

[ChronoReverse]

It may be true that MKV will no longer have as much significance as it did before.

It's two primary features over AVI (Variable Framerate and ability to hold anything) is also part of MP4.

Considering that MP4 is a ratified format for both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, MP4 is going to be the container of choice (unless you really want to use Microsoft's WMV instead).


Combine with the native subtitle format of MP4 (very powerful and no longer bitmap based. In fact you can even do the karaoke stuff with the MP4 subtitle format and have it play on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players) I really don't see any reason to use MKV.

[seorang]

avoid mkv ? :confused: :eek: the world is comming to an end :p
i see no reason to do that, actually i try to find anime with mkv format :D

I prefer ogms. I have no idea why.

[Saint321]

Ok, I now despise .mkvs

I looked through this whole thread, and couldn't get them to work. I've downloaded countless programs, including BSplayer (which can't open the file), Media Player Classic, (which plays it with no sound or subtitles), and VirtualDubMod, (which plays it with no subtitles)

I'm gonna need a step-by-step explanation, I think. I'm on AIM, YIM, and MSN, if IMing helps.

EDIT: Never mind. I figured it out, with help from a very very good friend.

Go here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ select your OS, then a mirror. You just need to install it, and you can run the files with ease. No setup at all, except selecting audio and subtitles. :)

[lunarXskies]

When I play MKV files theres no sound...can't find the problem..

[starwind75043]

My audio is fine but some of my video will stutter, skip but it always sync back up and play normal after it does that.
I use the kaa codec pack there new one right now but it did this with my other codec pack k-lite?
any suggestions would be helpful

[shiwei]

hmm, i download a anime that have (h.264) with it...
i play it, but only got the sound dun haf the images... wat codec i need to install

edit: i have solved the problem...

[Ragnax]

My audio is fine but some of my video will stutter, skip but it always sync back up and play normal after it does that.
I use the kaa codec pack there new one right now but it did this with my other codec pack k-lite?
any suggestions would be helpful
Suggestion; Don't use codec packs. Desync and stuttering are usually caused by the wrong codec kicking in to play back a stream in the videofile.
Manually install the codecs you'll need.

[KaiZX]

I'm having problems getting mkv files working properly. I'm just having general playback slowdown or just inability to jump the different segments of the video. I downloaded the Matroska pack 1.12. Can anyone help?

[milkmandan]

hmmm
what are the specs of your computer?

IT COULD BE a problem with the codec within the mkv file, i know some video files are slow in jumping ahead, blame the codec.

I would suggest getting a CCCP.

http://cccp.kickassanime.org/download.php
click above to get, it is the ULTIMATE codec pack...
use ZOOMplayer as your default player.

[NeonliteZ]

Hi all,

i'm not very techy on the codecs. Can i ask if there's any way to play Indeo video on XP platform other than the official codec? Besides purchasing the latest IndeoXP. I tried 5.11 but it hangs during installation.

[FireStormdm]

I guess this can go under media files, but how to do you view files with .bin and .cue? Cuz after torrenting some files with that I don't know what to do with them cuz I don't know how to open them.

[deadcoat]

Hi all,

i'm not very techy on the codecs. Can i ask if there's any way to play Indeo video on XP platform other than the official codec? Besides purchasing the latest IndeoXP. I tried 5.11 but it hangs during installation.

Try the simplest method first run the video in mplayer2 wmp6.4 let the player connect to the internet and see if it can get the codec by itself. You should have indeo video 5.10 already installed. You could try changing the fourcc of the file nics xvid binary comes with a fourcc changer http://nic.dnsalias.com/xvid.html . Though changing the fourcc does not always work.


I guess this can go under media files, but how to do you view files with .bin and .cue? Cuz after torrenting some files with that I don't know what to do with them cuz I don't know how to open them.

Simple get daemon tools and mount the .bin or .cue file with daemon. Myself I use daemon 3.47 the are newer version have not yet had the need to get a newer version. You can get it at
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php?mode=ViewCategory&catid=5

[Firestorm8880]

i seem to have a problem where my video gradually lags behind my sound, and time shifting the audio in MPC doesn't help...this almost always happens for HD video...i've got the latest direct x (9.0c) and the latest CCCP too...anyone have any idea how to solve this?

[Adust Wanderer]

i seem to have a problem where my video gradually lags behind my sound, and time shifting the audio in MPC doesn't help...this almost always happens for HD video...i've got the latest direct x (9.0c) and the latest CCCP too...anyone have any idea how to solve this?


Probably codec confilcts? Or your system can't handle HD videos

[Desmonthes]

Most likely that your comp can't handle those HD video (1024 x 768 res and above)

[solarenemy]

Use a program like DAEMON Tools (free) or Alcohol120% (not so free) to mount them as a virtual drive.

Basically, it will read the .cue/.bin file(s) as a CD, and assign it a letter, such as your Z:\ drive.
Or you could use nero or burn4free and actually burn them to a cd or dvd.

[Ragnax]

Or you could use nero or burn4free and actually burn them to a cd or dvd.
You're better off keeping them as disc images and mounting those with Daemon Tools; The drives Daemon Tools creates have unlimited capacity for region switching, so in the case that the disc images in question are region protected DVDs, you can work around it without having a region free drive.