Your Final Console Decision...

[Blood_Raven]

Has anyone decided on what they're going to buy in the next comming months?
The XBox 360?
The PS3?
Or The Nintendo Revolution.

They all have their strenghts and weakness's but what are you going to buy. That is, if you have the money :D

(I'm sure this has been argued before, but I thought I'd bring it up in a neutral ground)

[gjc174]

Hmm.... which one is the cheapest?

[dakki2040]

PS 3 ,PS 3 and PS 3...
oh did i mention PS 3???^_^

[stukasa]

Hard to say. I know that most of the system specs have already been disclosed, but what really matters is the games... and until they're released, I'll hold out my judgment. The Revolution seems like a safe bet for me just because of Smash Bros., Mario, Zelda, and Metroid, plus there are a lot of old NES/SNES games I'd like to download. And of course it'll be the cheapest of the three, which means less money to burn...

[Skizzem]

Well I won't buy one immediately, but if I had to choose I'd go for the PS3.

[Skye McCloud]

Although I already know my answer, I'm just gonna throw some reason in for my decision, which is for the Revolution:

1. Over 20 years worth of games? Hell yea.
2. Developers have only said POSITIVE things about the Revolution, and NEGATIVE about PS3 and 360? Hell yea.
3. Revolution is going to be cheaper than the other two? Hell yea.
4. Nintendo is try to revolutionize the industry? HELL YEA!

As "pretty" as PS3 and 360 might be, both won't go far if developers keep bashing them. Everyone remember how the N64 was prettier than PS1? Yea, thought so. BAM!

A couple people here are already falling for the "Oooo, purdy graphics" shit, because the only reason why one would choose PS3 over the other two is for that reason. For those people, and others who think of choosing PS3, you should be aware that many developers don't like the PS3, and given history with three other game companies (Atari, Nintendo, Sega), Sony is bound to fall.

[Suzuran]

of course something where i can play guilty gear j/k
ps 3 of course :)

[Skizzem]

A couple people here are already falling for the "Oooo, purdy graphics" shit, because the only reason why one would choose PS3 over the other two is for that reason. For those people, and others who think of choosing PS3, you should be aware that many developers don't like the PS3, and given history with three other game companies (Atari, Nintendo, Sega), Sony is bound to fall.

When videogame companies declare titles (that I follow up on) exclusive to the Nintendo Revolution system, such as Square-Enix's "Final Fantasy" series or Namco's "Tekken" games, then I'll switch to the N-Rev console. But as of right now, there have been no announcements made about this. Therefore, I'll stick to the PS3.

Personally, it never has always been about the graphics with me. It was always about the games. That's why I bought a PS, and then a PS2. But if graphics was the deciding factor, I would have purchased an X-Box. Although to this day I'm still pissed off that Tecmo make DoA exclusive to the X-Box console. But hell no am I going to fork up another $300-$500 just so I can play one game.

[xcalibro]

xbox 360 because of final fantasy XI. It isn't released over here on the ps2. Doa looks great to play. Perfect dark zero, because i promesed myself in the n64 era that i would buy the console that would have the next perfect dark. And because it will take a year before the ps3 comes to europe.

[Luca_Blight]

PS3, because I like the PS1 and PS2 and love the games for those consoles. So is safe to think that I would love the PS3 games. :)

... but, Im dreaming... I doent have the money to buy anything...:(

[darksol83]

I;m into modern consoles. I don't have PS2, X-box or NGC either.. lol

[Blood_Raven]

I'm going for the xbox 360 personally
Halo 3, DOA, FF, Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, chromehounds, and a rumor about a zoids game
Just to name a few

[Skye McCloud]

Don't worry about Square-Enix. They're going all consoles next gen. As in, every FF game will be on every console, or at least the numbered ones will be.

Actually, all of the old japanese game companies, save for Capcom, have said they will be supporting Revolution for sure with some of their hit titles. The reason why not Capcom is because their execs are idiots. *points to VJ2, RE4*

And if you're not willing to fork over $300-$500 now, why would you fork that much over for a PS3?

And I also heard a very interesting rumour on Bungie and Halo 3. Something about MS wanting Halo 3 DONE by the time PS3 launches, and that Bungie doesn't think it's possible and is getting ticked with MS. Dunno if there is any truth in it, but interesting nontheless since they only have a contract with MS.

[Skizzem]

And if you're not willing to fork over $300-$500 now, why would you fork that much over for a PS3?
It makes more sense if you read my post like this:

Although to this day I'm still pissed off that Tecmo make DoA exclusive to the X-Box console. But hell no am I going to fork up another $300-$500 just so I can play one game.The "fork up another $300-$500" was referring to the current X-Box and the "one game" was referring to the DoA titles that became exclusive for that console.

But if you are correct about the companies porting their major titles to all the consoles then of course that would make me think twice about whether I should immediately go for a PS3. At that point I'd take into account other factors, such as reliability, cost, performance, handling of the controllers, and yes, even the one that has better graphics. The point I was trying to make earlier was that first and foremost, above all else, I look for what games are available when deciding which console to get.

[whiteninja]

I'm most likely going for ps3. I might get the xbox 360 maybe a year or so after that (similar to how I got the previous gen consoles). I'm not even gonna bother with the revolution.

[mirage]

When videogame companies declare titles (that I follow up on) exclusive to the Nintendo Revolution system, such as Square-Enix's "Final Fantasy" series or Namco's "Tekken" games, then I'll switch to the N-Rev console. But as of right now, there have been no announcements made about this. Therefore, I'll stick to the PS3.


Forget exclusive game for only one system.
The dev cost of a game for the next generation is very high.... they won't be a lot of "exclusive" game from a third party dev..
Only Nintendo and his studio will do exclusive game for the rev
Only microsoft and his studio will do exclusive game on X360
Only SCE and his studio will do exclusive game for the PS3

And when you look for the what studio is own by who.... i'm a bit afraid for the PS3..... (and don't say Square-Enix, SCE have just a lot of stock they're not the ppl who decide)

[Drugzbunnie]

PS3 all the way. Has anybody seen the Killzone trailer? That alone should clear any doubts :)

[mirage]

PS3 all the way. Has anybody seen the Killzone trailer? That alone should clear any doubts :)

The E3 trailler?.. OMG you believe it's true?
Like a lot of dev said (and the first was Kojima) it's just a show, and you see only video not the real capability of the machine.....
BTW, you must know at the E3 time the graphic chipset was not finish and all the trailler you saw was only precalculed movie not the real PS3 ^^

Anyway just good graphic don't make good game..... if you think because your eyes sparkle it will a good game... OMG the number of crappy game with only graphic you've brought on this generation then...

[xcalibro]

Forget exclusive game for only one system.
The dev cost of a game for the next generation is very high.... they won't be a lot of "exclusive" game from a third party dev..
Only Nintendo and his studio will do exclusive game for the rev
Only microsoft and his studio will do exclusive game on X360
Only SCE and his studio will do exclusive game for the PS3

And when you look for the what studio is own by who.... i'm a bit afraid for the PS3..... (and don't say Square-Enix, SCE have just a lot of stock they're not the ppl who decide)

Squere enix is part owned by sony so i wouldn't expect any of the nuber ff on any other console expect the online one.

[Skizzem]

Well, not entirely true either. Square-Enix released their Final Fantasy Tactics games for the GBA, which is obviously a Nintendo product. Likewise, their Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles that was released for the GameCube, which again is a Nintendo product. Sure, the normal "line up" of Final Fantasies have become exclusive for the PS but that was only because a while back Square and Nintendo had some issues. So I wouldn't be surprised if Square-Enix does release another Final Fantasy for any of the next gen consoles besides the PS3.

As for Square releasing their FFXI game to the X-Box, I have no problems with that. In fact, personally, I would encourage it. X-Box has a better online capability I think and with the great graphics power the FFXI game would surely be a wonder to behold. And furthermore, in the eyes of businessmen, releasing the FFXI title to the X-Box would mean that now Square has successfully provided games for all three major consoles. And thus bringing in a bigger fanbase. More customers, more money.

You won't do well if you remain exclusive forever, unless you know for a fact that your fanbase is already large to begin with.

[TK.]

Eventuall i'll send up getting both Xbox 360 and PS3 once the price has gone down enough. Just like i have both Xbox and PS2.
But ive got my Xbox 360 on pre-order, im waiting till a while after release date to pick up PS3 when its alot cheaper

[Kecoa]

I'll pick my choice based on the game line-up. If every console has games that I like, I'll pick the one with more games that I like, or the one with the game that I like the most. So I simply based my choice from the games.

[Skizzem]

I'll pick my choice based on the game line-up. If every console has games that I like, I'll pick the one with more games that I like, or the one with the game that I like the most. So I simply based my choice from the games.

Damn. I should have just said what you said. That way I could have avoided having to "explain" myself. :rolleyes:

[Skye McCloud]

Hehe, you probably should have.

I'm surprised, though, that nobody has tried to attack my "Developers have only said POSITIVE things about the Revolution, and NEGATIVE about PS3 and 360" thing. However, it is entirely true, and that's going to have a big impact. When you consider increasing development costs from PS3 and 360, yet the development costs will remain the same on the Revolution as the Cube were (And the Cube had the LOWEST costs anyway), not to mention this deal on developers liking the Revolution... You can see where I'm going.

I had actually posted an interesting editorial in the Nintendo forum a while back. It went into detail on how Sony was going to fall in the next-gen. Basically, Sony is repeating exactly what Nintendo did and it'll cost them in the end. Proof of its fall lies within the PSP. Look at how this handheld peice of junk stagnates around the world in sales, while the DS keeps beating it with a mallet and shouting "EAT THAT! HAH! YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT YOU'D WIN?!"

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28150

There's the topic. I suggest a everyone reads at least the first page, maybe the second. Despite being an editorial, it holds a lot of fact, and analysis based on the repeating of history. This is where I am basing my ideas that Revolution will be the main console in the next gen, and there's a very high chance for that to happen.

[otosa]

Ill have to go with the ps3 (im not puting nintendo down) but since the ps1 arrive I have love the games itself, because believe it or not I do still have my first nintendo, and yet I still play my loved mario 3

[xcalibro]

Hehe, you probably should have.

I'm surprised, though, that nobody has tried to attack my "Developers have only said POSITIVE things about the Revolution, and NEGATIVE about PS3 and 360" thing. However, it is entirely true, and that's going to have a big impact. When you consider increasing development costs from PS3 and 360, yet the development costs will remain the same on the Revolution as the Cube were (And the Cube had the LOWEST costs anyway), not to mention this deal on developers liking the Revolution... You can see where I'm going.

I had actually posted an interesting editorial in the Nintendo forum a while back. It went into detail on how Sony was going to fall in the next-gen. Basically, Sony is repeating exactly what Nintendo did and it'll cost them in the end. Proof of its fall lies within the PSP. Look at how this handheld peice of junk stagnates around the world in sales, while the DS keeps beating it with a mallet and shouting "EAT THAT! HAH! YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT YOU'D WIN?!"

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28150

There's the topic. I suggest a everyone reads at least the first page, maybe the second. Despite being an editorial, it holds a lot of fact, and analysis based on the repeating of history. This is where I am basing my ideas that Revolution will be the main console in the next gen, and there's a very high chance for that to happen.

This may be true but the gamecube is easier to programm for that the ps2, but that doesn't help it. Some developers have even abandoned the console and are now focusing on the ps2 or xbox. And on the positive about the revolution thing. It is not easy to say bad things about something you haven't seen or seen for a short time. What i mean is we know the design of both the xbox 360 and the ps3. We can alreasy like or dislike it. The revolution we have only seen the console itself and not the controller. We don't know what the direction is of nintendo's controller (on the n64 it was 3d (the stick)) (on the gamecube it was easy to pick up (buttons). Wonder what everyones idea is about this.

[nick64]

definetely not the X-360.

Its a toss up between REV and PS3 though PS3's high price may force me to get REV first.

[sum1]

ill wait and see but i think that im going to get the Rev. first then the PS3 and screw the X-Sucks

[mirage]

This may be true but the gamecube is easier to programm for that the ps2, but that doesn't help it. Some developers have even abandoned the console and are now focusing on the ps2 or xbox. And on the positive about the revolution thing. It is not easy to say bad things about something you haven't seen or seen for a short time.

You don't it the point why dev didn't dev on the Cube.... Mainly because.. damn look the Nintendo's game.... how a little dev can make a game as good than Metroid Prime, Zelda even Mario Sunshine (who arfar to be a good mario)...
Thath the main prob on Nintendo machines... if you want to sell, you must make a good game, a very good game or you'll not sell... Look the third party game who had a good sell.... SCII, TOS, Baten Kaitos, the RE etc... only major and big great game.... the other did'nt sell because of the high standar of the Cube...
It's a good thing to have a quality that high but it also a bad thing because a lot of dev abandon the Cube because they can't fit the high standar to sell well...

It's why the PS2 have more game (he X-Box have not a lot more game when you look .. just some mutli-plateform game with PS2 and the PC.. that all)... It's more easy to sell a crapy game on PS2(and the PS2 have a mega super lot of crapy game)..
Ppl who only have a X-Box or a Cube generaly buy only the good game (dunno why but it's like that).

Anyway, for the Next-Gen i will surelly have the 3 like i have the 4 in this generation and the 3 the generation before etc....
Just i'll surelly buy before a Rev and after a X-360... and i buy a PS3 when the price will be correct and when the PS3 will have good game (yea because like all the Sony console... you must wait one year before have for a descent price and not a stupid price for Sony's Sheep tand he first good game.. i won't fall for a second Fantavision or the Bouncer -_- )

[X0Anime0X]

=\ I would get the PS3 first, then buy a bunch of Import PS2 games that I wanted to play then start getting PS3 games later on. I really want to get all 3 though... but that's like 1 grand out of my pocket. >_< Decisions decisions.... all depends on the price and the economy.

[mirage]

=\ I would get the PS3 first, then buy a bunch of Import PS2 games that I wanted to play then start getting PS3 games later on

It's quite stupid, i have a PS2 with mod chip who allow me to play all game (Eu,US,Jap)...
ANd seriously, buy a PS3 at the Beginning will the same mistake i did when i brough a PS and PS2.... i will pay the twice for play with no game...
Nah, it's better to wait one year and to buy a PS3 at correct price and can buy game with it.... it's like that since the PS1... i fall two time not a third.

ppl who Trust SCE.. oh my... they love to be take for dork =/ (SCE even don't know the word player, gamer or buyer.. just the sigle CB..... the rest they don't care if they sell a damn fragile crapy hardware at a stupid price.... i won't fall in theyr advertising trap this time... because SCE it's only show, hype and advertising)

[Skizzem]

@ Skye McCloud:

Personally, as a participator of this thread, the reason why I didn't "attack" your claim that the Revolution has only received positive feedback whereas the other two consoles did not is because Blood_Raven specifically stated in the first post:

I'm sure [the topic of which next-gen console is going to be the best] has been argued before, but I thought I'd bring it up in a neutral ground.
But since you brought it up, I might as well give my input regarding the issue.

First of all, I notice that the article was written by an editor who works for a site called "GameCube Advanced: The World's Best Source for Nintendo". The name of the organization of which the editor is affiliated with is obvious enough to suggest that he will do his best (as humanely as possible) to provide better reviews on a Nintendo product than any of the other consoles. It's called bias.

Secondly, you have to keep in mind that the Revolution is far newer than any of the three major consoles in development, and only the "good" bits of information will be released. Needless to say, this is a marketing strategy to keep the audience "Oooo"-ing. There's still a lot of information that Nintendo hasn't disclosed. Have you seen its controllers? Do you know what its official name is going to be?

I want you to understand that I don't mean to bash Nintendo. In fact, I have high respects for the company. If it wasn't for their SNES system, I would have never played Zelda and *gasp!* Final Fantasy. They surely delivered awesome titles back then and their GameCube proves that they can continue to do just that.

I also want you to understand, for the sake of keeping the peace, that if you are so much in love with this new product of Nintendo's, then by all means continue to rave about it. Obviously, there's no shame in it and I don't have the moral right to prevent you from doing so. But from the way you sounded on the first post it almost seemed to me like as if you were attempting to sway me from my interest in the PS3. I don't know if you meant well, or if you were honestly giving a "warning", or hell, maybe I'm just being a little defensive about all this. But understand that even if I like the PS3 now, that's not going to mean that I will purchase it. I might, or I might not. Who knows, it's too early to tell.

@ mirage:

First of all, what truly constitutes a "good" (or "bad") game? As far as I know, adjectives such as "good" or "bad" are highly subjective. In other words, that's your point of view. What might suck for you might be a cool thing for another. For example, I own a PS game called Eretzvaju (translated as Evil Zone here in the states) and let me tell you, the graphics on that game aren't up to par compared to other 3D titles and the controls are awkward, but nevertheless I still think it was a great game. It was anime-oriented. The plot was pretty decent (obviously not the best but good enough to follow) and they had some pretty interesting characters (both design and backgrounds). But to someone who enjoys sports game and have been spoiled by better graphics might say Eretzvaju is the worst thing he's ever seen, but I would beg to differ.

You claim as if all the games produced, especially for the PS2, by most third-party companies suck. That's not a fair thing to say. Thanks to these companies, the library of games for the PS2 has grown extensive and therefore customers are bound to find something they might like. Remember: To each his own.

One thing I will agree with you though is the idea to never buy a console immediately when it comes out. (I know you were referring to the PS3 but I'd rather speak in general terms here.) Due to all the hype and competition among developers, each of the console companies will try to release their products as fast as possible. This will obviously lead to customers experiencing certain flaws when they purchase the consoles, mainly due to the fact that the products have not been fully tested. And even if they have, there will still be things missed.

And as for SCE not giving a damn about crappy hardwares, that's not entirely true. If that was the case, then why is PS2 still considered one of the three major consoles of today? If SCE did not give a damn at all, why did the PS2 not go down like Sega's Dreamcast did? (Btw, that's not to say Sega didn't give a damn either, but due to issues beyond their control the console went downhill.) SCE, as well as other companies such as Nintendo and Microsoft, are all about business. The top-ranking dudes, whoever they are, whichever company they work for, might not know all the little specifics that make up a console, but they'll make it their prerogative to see that they continue to compete as long as competition exists.

[X0Anime0X]

Hmm... thanks you two. With your uber long post I have learned the error of my way... Never buy console when it's first released. But 1 question, should I buy a Japanese PS2 now or wait for the PS3 to come out? (I currently own no PS2 but LOOOVE their import games)

[jamesuh]

Xbox 360, mostly because of Dead or Alive 4 and Perfect Dark Zero and... because Bill Gates made it? Uhhhh...

[Skizzem]

Hmm... thanks you two. With your uber long post I have learned the error of my way... Never buy console when it's first released. But 1 question, should I buy a Japanese PS2 now or wait for the PS3 to come out? (I currently own no PS2 but LOOOVE their import games)

No problem. My "uber long post" was mainly directed towards Skye McCloud and mirage but if you learned something from it, I'm honored. ;)

Japanese PS2's will still be expensive because they're imports, unless you can get a good deal off of an auction, like in E-Bay. But as for choosing which one, honestly I can't answer that question for you. You have to think to yourself, do you want to be able to play PS2 (and PS) Japanese games? Then buy a Jap PS2. Or you could try and save your money for a PS3. But then obviously it'll only play non-Jap games. Unless you go for a Jap PS3 but man, that's really going to be expensive and I don't think the price will go any lower even in auctions.

[Skye McCloud]

I've moreso been warning anyone who doesn't seem like a graphic whore and says they want the PS3. You fit into this. :)

Yes, the editorial is on a Nintendo fan site, but like I said, it contains a good deal of fact on all three companies, as well as previous console companies, to show reference to Sony's coming fall.

As well, when I said the things on positive/negative remarks, I was not quoting that editorial. No. In fact, a few third party developers HAVE seen the Revolution, such as Square-Enix and Sega, and have only given high praise for it.

Even if we haven't been shown the entire console doesn't mean they've left everyone in the dark. I also get the assumption that IGN staff have seen it, and were told not to tell anyone less they be sued out of their a**es.

To be honest, up until I knew the details on the PS3 that I know now, I didn't think Nintendo had a chance to beat Sony. Then I hear about the Cell processor, and all the other things Sony is doing with the PS3, and hearing about how it's the same path Nintendo was on... It just adds up.

I know I'm gonna get a Revolution no matter what, because I'm just a Nintendo fanboy. However, for those who are considering each system equally, I say wait. Wait until all three are out, and see where developers want to go.

[X0Anime0X]

Did Nintendo ever announce a Super Smash Bros. Melee sequel?

[CherryMilkman]

yes they did for the revolution....
coming out for the launch..

I would choose....... PS3....
Killzone looks ohh so purty....

[FinalixerX]

I'm planning on buying the Revolution. Why? Simply because it sounds like it will have the most games I'd like to play on it overall. Alright, so I might be a Nintendo fanboy, but I do enjoy playing games on PS2 and X-Box once in a while as it is. Still, I'm going to play it safe and stick with Nintendo.

[Skizzem]

One of the neat things that Nintendo Revolution has is that it allows you to download old games. But I'm not worried at all if I don't manage to get the console. That's what emulators and ROMs are for. ;)

[Skye McCloud]

Bah for ROMs.

Crese, what're you talking about? The 360 has nothing short of a CRAP line-up! All the games look terrible in comparison to what Microsoft claimed they could make. As well, PS3 and Revolution are currently being expected to have launched by next April. You also have a number of big developers hating PS3 and 360 while liking Revolution, as I've already stated. You think other developers aren't paying attention to this?

If anything, the 360's premature launch is going to bring its end.

[Skizzem]

I prefer ROMS because I can save money with them. (And note that I never download off of any site that forces you to pay for ROMs. That totally defeats the purpose.) If you're a college student, you'll know how valuable money can be... unless you're rich to begin with.

Secondly, not all big time developers hate the PS3. Check out this articlet: http://playstation.about.com/od/ps3/a/PS3SpecsDetails.htm. (Skip to page 2.) I will admit that the source isn't as reliable since the author is affiliated with http://playstation.about.com/ but, like your article, it's as credible as it can get. Here's one that's a little more unbiased: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11069 Basically, it's about Tecmo confirming its support for the PS3 in spite of the fact that the president feels it'll be challenging to develop games with it. I won't even mention Team Ninja; those bastards are fixiated on the X-Box.

One thing I will want to make clear to you, Skye, is that even the PS2 had many developers going bonkers in the most negative way. They felt that developing games with that system was a pain. But you know what? How funny is it that games were still developed on that system. (And a lot of them, might I add.) ;)

Edit: Not about developers, but about the gamers themselves: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60878

Edit 2: Whoa, Midway will support PS3 but not X-360?? http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9165 Anyway, since we're talking about the X-360 here, I would just like to point out that while in Japan it may not be a best-seller, it definitely will over here and probably in the U.K.

[Skye McCloud]

The only reason was because it had a year's headstart. In all areas of competition, Nintendo and MS beat Sony, but Sony stayed in first because it had a year's headstart and was riding off the success of the PS1.

The SNES was like this too. It won because of past success. Why didn't the N64 get ahead then? See where this is going?

[Skizzem]

Lol, you know what I think we can argue this over and over to death. It's like what Blood_raven mentioned. So to bring this thread back to neutral ground, I'll admit that you're right in several of your points. (I was just trying to see if you could back them up). And to be honest, I do hope that the Nintendo Revolution will prosper in many aspects, especially with the games that will be developed for the console. Like I said, I'm mainly about the games so if I see that the Revolution starts to allow more of the third-party companies to release titles that I like into their system, I just might go with the Revolution. Touche, Skye, touche... ;)

[Skye McCloud]

Just as Sony did, Microsoft claimed their system was capable of much more, graphically speaking, than they're giving us. As it stands, the 360 doesn't look any better than the X-Box or Cube. This isn't going to help them. The titles of the game mean nothing for a system like 360 if they aren't up to par in all aspects as Microsoft claims the system can do.

Skizzem, yea, we could go back and forth until we're dead. :) I'm moreso trying to bring something to light to everyone, though, so that everyone makes a well judged decision rather than the "I'll go with PS3 because it'll have the games" or "I'll go with 360 because it'll be out first and will take the market" or "I'll go with Revolution because it's NINTENDO!" of course, I'm a hypocrite, because I do the same thing for Revolution, but at least I'm aware that the Revolution will do much better.

As well, just so you know, it's not entirely if Nintendo allows third party games on their system. It's if third party companies want to put it on Revolution. Yes, Nintendo has high quality standards, but that's good, because it means that each game on a Nintendo console will actually be good. Quality over quantity. :)

[carloamoyen]

PS3. iono why, maybe its the FF7 tech demo that got me to wanting PS3 or the future of FF games.

[ranman1313]

Originally i was going to get the PS3 due to the fact that it was going to have Final Fantasy exclusivley. But now that i heard that it was going to be out on all systems, it seems i might have to reconsider. But i was just wondering is it official that the Final Fantasy games will be released on all systems, or if the claim was just based on the fact that Square Enix had released FF Tactics and Crystal Chronicles for Nintendo. The reason i ask is because i heard that the only reason Square Enix put out games for Nintendo was because they wanted to release a game for the GBA (which was the only handheld at the time) and nintendo only let them if they would release a game for the gamecube too. What do you guys think?

[Skizzem]

As far as I know, Square-Enix is going to have full support for the PS3. With that in mind, the Final Fantasy games are definitely heading over towards the PS3 (as well as other games). There has been no official news about the "numbered" ones being released to other consoles, but the Tactics and Chronicles series definitely will be. Note that the Tactics series (in particular) might be released for the PSP now that that Sony handheld device has been manufactured.

[kelcey]

It's really hard to say right now... None of the systems have even been released yet. Right now I'm leaning on the PS3, but that's far from concrete. I just hope nintendo announces something soon at TGS.

[Skye McCloud]

There was an article saying that SquareEnix DID say that the numbered Final Fantasy's would be cross-platform. I'll double check on the article, but I had read it, and it does exist.

Crese, I've looked at some videos for the 360. I have not seen one that looks better than every single game on X-Box or Cube right now.

Nintendo has the better image with developers. The problem is, these companies can't go for a niche market unless they know it will save them tons of money. Since the PS2 had its popularity, to go with the Cube would screw them over. However, in light of things regarding the PS3 and Revolution, this is when developers will do what they did to the N64. They'll abandon Sony to go for the company that can offer them the most profit.

I don't think that rumour is true, ranman.

Skizzem, as I said above, SquareEnix won't be focusing so heavily into PS3. The numbered FF games will be cross platform, and given the fast restoring bond between Nintendo and SquareEnix, as well as the PSP's crap sales, I doubt SE will be crazy enough to release a game like FFT on PSP.

[Skizzem]

Well then, keep me posted. I'm all ears - err, eyes. :o

[kelcey]

There was an article saying that SquareEnix DID say that the numbered Final Fantasy's would be cross-platform. I'll double check on the article, but I had read it, and it does exist.

Crese, I've looked at some videos for the 360. I have not seen one that looks better than every single game on X-Box or Cube right now.

Nintendo has the better image with developers. The problem is, these companies can't go for a niche market unless they know it will save them tons of money. Since the PS2 had its popularity, to go with the Cube would screw them over. However, in light of things regarding the PS3 and Revolution, this is when developers will do what they did to the N64. They'll abandon Sony to go for the company that can offer them the most profit.

I don't think that rumour is true, ranman.

Skizzem, as I said above, SquareEnix won't be focusing so heavily into PS3. The numbered FF games will be cross platform, and given the fast restoring bond between Nintendo and SquareEnix, as well as the PSP's crap sales, I doubt SE will be crazy enough to release a game like FFT on PSP.


They didn't say that. They hinted at it. It's certainly possible, but it could very well just mean.. here's FFCC 2 on revolution... and FF13 on PS3. So it's not confirmed that the numbered final fantasies are going multiplatform.

[ChaosDelirium]

I'd go with the Revolution. The controller simply ensnared me :p

Go check the Revolution controller thread to find out about it. A lot of people (for and against) give their opinions about it. http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33417

Gotta luv it! :D

[jenl12343]

360- well it will be the first out of the gate and expensive. I'll wait and see how this one does. See if it can be modded.

Ps3- might be a while for this one but is the one I really want to get as long as they do away with the boomerang controller.

revolution- ok so the contoller is a tv remore combined with an nes controller. A system that lets me download all the old games I could just play the roms for on my computer. big whoop ( and I'm not talking about the treasure).

75% sure I will be getting ps3.

[Skizzem]

I admit after reading some things about the Nintendo Revolution I'm now interested if it will actually outsell the PS3 and X-Box 360. It seems that there's a lot of support for it, both fans and game developers alike, so Nintendo will prove to be a formidable opponent in the console wars.

But if there's one lesson I learned about all this hype with videogames, it is to take a step back and watch with a careful eye. It's better to refrain from getting "psyched" up and jumping on the bandwagon, otherwise you'll end up making a financial mistake in the end. Again, I feel sorry for those people who thought the Sega Dreamcast was going to live up to its name.

Anyway, to get to the point I really want to make, I think these posts about the console wars has got to stop. I'm serious. Flame at me if you want, but I'm not kidding here. I honestly, seriously, think these threads have to literally stop. And why? Because these threads fall under the category of what is known as "religious debates", and past experiences/observations show that these kinds of arguments never get resolved. For example: On one side, you have the believers. On the other side, you have the skeptics. Both will continue to argue about "what is true" for eternity and will never, I repeat, they will NEVER come to a conclusion. Even if one finds fault in the argument, that person will remain hesitant to admit it and will try to find ways to "go around" the issue to prove that he/she is right.

With this in mind, we can see how it relates to the console wars. One side is obviously going to support a console whereas another will defend the other console. (A third party may step into the fray.) But regardless of the facts you throw at the opposing team, that team will not easily submit to your explanation as to why you think your console is better than theirs. It's human nature for us to maintain the pride that's inside us all - that thing we hold dearly - in spite of what's being thrown at us.

Like I said several times before, I hope everyone would keep an open mind about this issue. This holds true for you Nintendo Revolution fans. Just because you see this as an opportunity for Nintendo to reclaim its glory doesn't mean that you should easily dismiss the PS3 and the X-Box. Those numbers you see about them losing sales mainly pertains to the current systems. And even if it is about the upcoming consoles, those are just projected numbers. The consoles themselves haven't even been released to the public yet so we'll never know as to which one will be the best-seller. The same goes for PS3/X-Box supporters; just because you feel that Nintendo might actually win the war this time does not mean you should bash it to death. Respect the company for they were one of the early pioneers in videogaming. If it wasn't for them, who knows where we would stand now.

Anyway, I think I've said my piece. This will be the last time I'll post regarding this topic, unless the need calls for it.

[Para]

revolution- ok so the contoller is a tv remore combined with an nes controller. A system that lets me download all the old games I could just play the roms for on my computer. big whoop ( and I'm not talking about the treasure).


Jen you only stated 1 mere fact which barely sets Revolution apart from all other consoles.

Revolution will be utiliziing technology that has nenver been used in a Console before, motion sensor technology and gyroscopes. The way that console games will be played won't be the same. And who knows if Nintendo might port their games and add Revolution features to it? Your argument for what Revolution will stand for and be purchased for is weak.

[kamadeva]

for me it would have to be the PS3 or Xbox 360 beacuse there will be more games which will have a more 'adult' style like GTA:San Andreas/Man hunt etc

points why I wouldn't buy the Revolution: the games that will be brought out for it will have an age rating of maybe 3+ :) and this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4251720.stm <<< I mean wtf is that all about :confused:

[Skye McCloud]

for me it would have to be the PS3 or Xbox 360 beacuse there will be more games which will have a more 'adult' style like GTA:San Andreas/Man hunt etc

points why I wouldn't buy the Revolution: the games that will be brought out for it will have an age rating of maybe 3+ :) and this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4251720.stm <<< I mean wtf is that all about :confused:

Kamadeva, I want you to go read this topic:

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33529

It's a topic I recently made. A fact sheet regarding Nintendo. Read it and learn well. Oh, and check the links regarding the Revolution controller, and you'll understand it.

[Blood_Raven]

Wow, this thread certainly took off...

Shoooom!
*does rocket ship sounds*

[MissieChan]

Hmm well I dont really care about the graphics.. I mean hell I enjored Paper Mario. xD But I'd have to say I wasn't /really/ impressed with PS2. I mean I have like 4 games for it total. I'm going to sell it on Ebay before PS3 comes out.

My first gaming system was a.. er.. really old Nintendo.. NES I guess? Something with shoot the ducks and the first mario ect. Then I had the gameboy (the fat ass one) and then the N64. So I think I'll stick with Nintendo. I just hop they put Twilight Princess on it. ;_;

[Para]

Hmm well I dont really care about the graphics.. I mean hell I enjored Paper Mario. xD But I'd have to say I wasn't /really/ impressed with PS2. I mean I have like 4 games for it total. I'm going to sell it on Ebay before PS3 comes out.

My first gaming system was a.. er.. really old Nintendo.. NES I guess? Something with shoot the ducks and the first mario ect. Then I had the gameboy (the fat ass one) and then the N64. So I think I'll stick with Nintendo. I just hop they put Twilight Princess on it. ;_;
Of course Twilight Princess will be on Revolution because Revolution will feature something none other nintendo consoles ever had... backwards compatibility to the max.

[ChaosDelirium]

Of course Twilight Princess will be on Revolution because Revolution will feature something none other nintendo consoles ever had... backwards compatibility to the max.
You mean to say that it will be for the GameCube and will be PLAYABLE on the Revolution right?

[Neo Zeed]

There can be no other decision... the PS3. Sony will prevail.

[forufukitsuna]

Just Buy Them All!!!!!!
Mwaaahahahaha!!!!!!!

[Blood_Raven]

Interesting fact:
In japan, of all the people who were surveyed, only 7% of them said they'd buy a 360 as their next gen console.
Interesting, no?

[ChaosDelirium]

Interesting fact:
In japan, of all the people who were surveyed, only 7% of them said they'd buy a 360 as their next gen console.
Interesting, no?
Not really. Most people in Japan tend to have a particular and subtle loathe for American stuff. The XBOX1 hasn't even sold well as the other two competitors during it's time in Japan either.

[Skizzem]

All of the next-gen consoles have their share of issues, so as I suggested before we should keep an open mind (or be skeptical) but NOT jump on the bandwagon. Despite all the reports regarding the consoles, it's still definitely too early to make definite judgements on any of them. Within the time period from now until the actual release of these consoles, there's still plenty of room for improvements and I won't be surprised if each company will make it their prerogative to make necessary changes. The tech world is competitive out there and these companies know that from experience.

[sbeal]

hm.. a pc!!!! but if i were to buy a console, it'd be the ps3

[eMKa]

I won't rather buy a next generation console,cause I just don't have so much money to upgrade of my PC and buying a new console,Pc development is better decision.

[cyress8]

Only looking for one game this gaming season and its The Elder Scrolls 4" OBLIVION(I say this in every gaming post it seems :)) and it comes on both pc and 360. However, im going to focus more on upgrading my pc since its way way more useful, (cant do any homework on my 360, print stuff i might need, etc..) plus i need the construction set and plugin that going to come out for Oblivion (They the main reason morrowind is so good besides its gameplay). Bringing more focus on the topic, i say all of em, im still going to buy them all :) Im a game fanatic and it wont do me justice if i didnt buy them

[thelighthawkwings]

That's a tough choice. I think it's too soon to make a decision. At this point, choosing a console only for its specs is not a good idea. Nintendo is preparing a really big revolution on the gameplay and I want to see if it's going to succeed before making my choice.

[Booya]

PS3, hands down.

360 has a mediocre library, and I'm wary of Revolution until I see what they make for it.

[omegafinal]

It's be all three systems eventually. Revolution's the first, most likely the X360, then the PS3 or vice versa. And remember it's the GAMES that matter. Without the games, a system is completely useless despite its power.

[BlackInfinity]

The PS series has made its strong victory because it took the initiative by hitting shelves first. However, as we can review, production of the PS3 is nowhere near complete, while 360 and revolution are working hard to bag the attention first. Will PS keep its long streak of popularity? Or will the other two make their big debut in the spotlight. Once more, the answers come to the games. Of course, the game subject for these new systems are still hazy, but if PS3 holds the suspension for too long, gamers will start looking elsewhere at the other consoles. Since i have no console favorites, I wish luck on all 3 systems :) .

[FinalFlash]

Revolution is a sure thing for me since its going to be the cheapest and the most original. And me and my bros will prolly get the other 2 when they come out too, but the one from PS3 and Xbox360 is most likely going to be the 360. The only reason for that is because game production on the PS3 is going to be hell. The developers are saying its going to take about $20 million to begin game production on the PS3 and dont know how much it will be when finished. Right now it takes about $10 million to finish a game, so the pricing is going to be hell on PS games. Also, it looks like a damn portable grill, its not gonna fit in my entertainment center, but that platinum color would probably look great in my back yard.

[riteB2inDI]

I've only played wiv a Saturn for a few months which i borrowed from my cousin, never really tot of buying a console be4, cos i m so addicted to overclocking. :D
Yet after seeing so many games moving to consoles, i've dicided to get 1 myself, a big fan of SONY, so i m going for PS3. :]

[Para]

I noticed there was a bump for this topic but under certain circumstances, this topic will stay open for discussion.


You mean to say that it will be for the GameCube and will be PLAYABLE on the Revolution right?
Yes, it will be playable on the revolution. Not to mention you can plug your gamecube controller into revolution and play on the revolution controller... best advantages could be that the game would probably load a lot faster and smoother gameplay.