Linux users, unite!

[Randomshinichi]

I gather there are a couple people here who use Linux... perhaps because wine is advanced enough to play these japanese games? Oh well.

My favourite distro is Gentoo Linux... why? Because I just like getting the most out of my hardware.

There must be a few people here who use Linux.

[Nii]

Wine emulates Windows right? I tried to play games with Linux but it was extremely laggy compared to playing it on Windows... I used Fedora.

[MrWiseman]

I use Linux for some projects at work. At home, I use Windows 2000 for 98% of the time, it suits my workstation/development/hacking/gaming needs much better (once I've tuned it and installed a crapload of software, including native ports of textutils, binutils, etc., I'm on the command line all the time).

Edit: Because of Windows Vista, for reasons explained in other threads, I'm phasing out Windows in favour of Linux. I'm in the process of migrating every application (finding equivalents, writing my own, etc.).

@Randomshinichi: Gentoo ricer :P (j/k)

@Nii: Wine attempts to emulate Win32, but don't count on it, especially for games.

[Nii]

I agree, but I've seen more and more linux ports. With the ATI linux drivers, and these Linux capable games... I wonder if it will be enough to sway people from Windows, considering Linux's user UNfriendliness :P

[Stonkeep]

wine mostly sucks, still the best emulator there it is but not enough imo.

I use centOS 3.3 on my server but at home i have no choice but to use win32.

[Randomshinichi]

The only thing you need to remember for Linux is: when buying a graphics card, don't choose S3.
Seriously. ATi's okay, I have a Radoen 7000 working very stably thank you very much. and Wine Is Not An Emulator.

@MrWiseMan: Had to do some research to get it :D

[gvbn]

i'm also a gentoo user

ati's linux drivers are horrible and
the only game i can run with
cedega is call of duty
(and warcraft 3, 0.5-3 frames
per second :p )

[Nii]

So... what GOOD games (other than aforementioned COD) can Linux even play? I guess its the compatibility thats holding it back, but really, why would you want to play on Linux instead of a perfectly capable games platform that is Windows?

[MrWiseman]

Best graphic cards for Linux are nVidias, their drivers are better.


Wine Is Not An EmulatorIt doesn't emulate any architecture; it implements Win32 and emulates some low-level kernel stuff that happens in Windows NT but doesn't happens in Linux.



what GOOD games (other than aforementioned COD) can Linux even play?Uh... Quake 3?


why would you want to play on Linux instead of a perfectly capable games platform that is Windows?Because it's costs nothing but time, and because you don't have to cope with Microsoft. Note that I still prefer Windows NT despite this.

[CleatoN]

ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[MrWiseman]

much smoother game play and i think it look overall much nicer. (i play games using cedega)Then you'll want to learn more about Windows NT and how to optimize its performance and configure your graphics drivers properly. As a workstation or gaming station, Windows NT is faster, smoother, and more stable than Linux with X, unless you get something wrong.

Edit: Not anymore.

[Randomshinichi]

MrWiseman brings up some nice points. I have a custom Firefox just compiled for my processor (-march=pentium3), and it still runs like molasses compared to the stock build of Firefox on my Windows computer (granted, it's a Athlon XP but hey you shouldn't need an Athlon XP just to get a browser running smoothly)

If you think ATi's drivers are horrible, try getting S3 Savage cards working under Linux. Xorg 7 is out, I hear it's got the Savage drivers in it, but Gentoo is being quite slow about marking that stable, so I'm stuck with a CVS version of X now. And let me tell you, my Linux laptop.... oh.... such bad memories of DRI.... and I couldn't even play epsxe on it.

[Klikodesh]

I prefer Gentoo over Win and I also have my win tuned.

Is wine capable of running japanese games ? I tried it about 7 years ago maybe it can run something now.

[Synt4x]

I use Slackware current as my workstation OS right now but i'm testing different OS's in QEMU to see if there is anything interesting.
But I still havn't found something worthy of replacing Slackware. I just like the simplicity in the OS.

Some pics of my desktop can be found -->here<-- (http://synt4x.ath.cx/Bilder/Screenshots/). Some pictures have really odd colors in mixed, but that's because i experiment alot with colors :P

[whiteninja]

I used to use SUSE but its later builds had trouble with my network card. I found PCLinuxOS to work very well. There is this game called vegastrike but I have had problems trying figure out how to work it.
A mod based on one of my all time favorite games, Privateer, was made using vegastrike. I was able to get that working in linux though.
I used linux to download things mostly, I would wake up in the morning to find my windows machine frozen too often.

[Synt4x]

Someone asked which games linux can run. It can run these games and some more native:
http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php

And it can run games thru cedega or wine too but far from all games works that way. The only games i've been able to run in Cedega are both Max Payne games, Starcraft, Warcraft 3 and GTA: San Andreas.

[gvbn]

And it can run games thru cedega or wine too but far from all games works that way. The only games i've been able to run in Cedega are both Max Payne games, Starcraft, Warcraft 3 and GTA: San Andreas.
you're lucky. my warcraft3 is
very slow and max payne freezes
when loading levels

i think most gamers want to
have windows-linux dual boot.
cedega is unstable

[Skimpy]

using knoppix : P

[painsama]

Redhat 8 & Fedora Core 1 (though the latest one is 5 :p).

[canthics]

I'm a comp sci major, so Nix is bread and butter. Although I'll probably be lynched when people find out I can't use Emacs.

On my own comp, I've always been too lazy to run nix unless it's a pure CD distro like Knoppix. I do have a mini-distro that runs off my USB key, though. For the most part, I'm satisfied with tweaking the crap out of XP and using litestep as a shell replacement.

[painsama]

I'm a comp sci major, so Nix is bread and butter. Although I'll probably be lynched when people find out I can't use Emacs.

How about vi? :p

[canthics]

How about vi? :p

VI FTW!!

IMO, Emacs is a text editor that thinks it's an operating system.

[superninjacodingmonkey]

So... what GOOD games (other than aforementioned COD) can Linux even play? I guess its the compatibility thats holding it back, but really, why would you want to play on Linux instead of a perfectly capable games platform that is Windows?

Americas Army
Unreal 2004
Quake 4

Mind you, the only true reason why we have linux is because we like futzing around with the like. On that note, I still havn't gotten Wine to work yet X(

[painsama]

Wine seems to work well with simple games i.e no 3D. I can run Diablo 2 LOD, Princess Maker and Sim City 4 just okay.

[ShadowTemplar]

I got Xandros. and loving it so far.

Xandros ships with some great games, like snake, tron, battleship, and many more :kakashi:

but seriourly, I know some techs in a store, near my house how are working to get Wine to probly support Direct X. from what they told me, their making some progress, it can run some good games, but not at playable levels. I'll make a post if they get it working right. don't hold your breath though.

[Randomshinichi]

I saw this thread and I thought... goodness gracious is that my thread? Whoa!

Don't use Wine for gaming guys. Use Cedega. It already does DX, and I've heard that they've only just started putting in shader support.

On another note, I'm running Arch Linux now. In the end I just couldn't stand Xorg 6.8 anymore (X11R7 is still not marked stable on Gentoo, what's wrong with them) and compile times were finally getting to me. Sometimes I think running -mcpu=i686 gives faster code than -march=pentium3 (Celeron Coppermine here).

[painsama]

But Cedega is not free, isn't it?

[Randomshinichi]

Just like H-games and OSTs here, it is free (in a way)

[painsama]

...it is free (in a way)
That's explained it :p

[eilegz]

im using ubuntu and its a pain to put games on it i think that linux its good for servers and maybe for work but for gamers nahh, also its pretty good for playing videos with mplayer, Also linux its more lite in many aspects since i dont need antispyware, antivirus and firewall

[wintypes]

Installed SuSE 10.1 KDE.

Installation died when configuring network cards.
Does not display 1440 x 900 resolution, VESA only knows 4:3 resolutions.
Sound device config crahsed.
Cannot install drivers for my GeForce 6600 Go

So far my first experience with Linux on my own Laptop.

[painsama]

Installed SuSE 10.1 KDE.

Installation died when configuring network cards.
Does not display 1440 x 900 resolution, VESA only knows 4:3 resolutions.
Sound device config crahsed.
Cannot install drivers for my GeForce 6600 Go

So far my first experience with Linux on my own Laptop.
Normal experience for Linux first timer... really.

I prefer Fedora Core though.

Probably Suse autodetection program that comes with has problem with detecting laptop's onboard graphic card and network card. Otherwise nowadays, installing linux is easier than installing windows XP with that boring blue screen. It kind of weird that you even have to install NVIDIA driver since it should come with the default "nv" NVIDIA driver. And to install NVIDIA the official NVIDIA driver you'll need to have the kernel source installed too. VESA is, if I'm not mistaken, a so called global driver that would work with any graphic cards (or the older graphic cards). If you have NVIDIA, it should load with "nv" instead.

[Randomshinichi]

Normal experience for Linux first timer... really.

I prefer Fedora Core though.
How true. Yeah, 16:9 resolutions aren't quite there in XOrg, I'd imagine. I think the best era of hardware for Linux nowadays would be something with a DX7 class graphics card (I don't think Linux, or even Xgl uses the Pixel Shader effects) and a Pentium 3 or 4. The Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron AMD processors would also be up Linux's alley. Don't expect new hardware to always work.

[suzuNo]

does anybody have the linux penguin belly sliding game?

[kuropon]

Does not display 1440 x 900 resolution
Cannot install drivers for my GeForce 6600 Go

I have a Viewsonic 19" widescreen LCD, and I got it working at 1440x900...
How did you try installing the nvidia driver?

[Yoshihire]

Im sitting usually on a Gentoo Linux, though at the moment it is Windows for me.
Considering this PC to be rather new, I slam my head in the wall over what an arse xorg.conf has gotten against me, and certain modules.

...in other words, I need to force a certain friend of mine to fix it against nothingness or less.

[Randomshinichi]

does anybody have the linux penguin belly sliding game?
That's Tuxracer. There's a closed source version of it, and the open source version. I had plenty of fun with the closed source version so I never tried the open source one.

[MooseFOOD]

I've been using Ubuntu for about a year now. It is a great distro for a first-time user (me). I've learned some pretty neat stuff and I can get Linux to do what I want it to do most of the time now. I remember that it was very intimidating at first, and I screwed a lot of stuff up, but I am glad that I stuck with it. With that being said, does anybody here run H-games through WINE? I've never tried, but I've been looking into to it, because it'd be more convienient than booting into Windows just to play them. The only thing that I've gotten to work really well with WINE is uTorrent.

[painsama]

he only thing that I've gotten to work really well with WINE is uTorrent.
Really? Are you using the latest version of WINE? Can't seem to work with it, and I'm better off with Azureus though when it comes to torrent.

[MooseFOOD]

I am not sure about the latest version, but I set it up within the past month, so I guess it is recent enough. I used a thread that can be found here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161&highlight=WINE+uTorrent) to set it up. I know it is on an Ubuntu forum, but the main steps for configuring WINE and uTorrent are universal; just ignore all the steps about apt-get and whatever. uTorrent runs perfectly for me in that it downloads everything as it should, starts up correctly, and shuts down correctly. However, it does flicker. That's really nothing major though. Also, you may have problems re-opening it if it is minimized, but using the tray icon to open it (or keeping it open on a different workspace) fixes that.

Overall, I like it a lot more than Azureus, which is a bloated, error-infested piece of crap. It also offers more control over torrents than clients such as Transmission or Ktorrent.

[mjoolnir]

Eh, I haven't gotten around to installing a Linux distro on this comp yet. Built it for gaming and intalled XP, preceeded to tweak it like mad and I'm pretty happy with it. Virus/Spyware is annoying though. Linux is good for most of the stuff I do minus gaming.. not gonna deal with emulators running games like crap, and thats if they can run them. Used to run Ubuntu, easy to install imo.. tried to install gentoo once on an old computer and I didn't have a clue ;_;

[painsama]

Linux is good for most of the stuff I do minus gaming.. not gonna deal with emulators running games like crap, and thats if they can run them.
I used to play Diablo II expansion on my Fedora, and I could play it nicely with Wine. Otherwise most of the time I play old stuffs using GBA emulator :p It sucks for gaming somehow, though some people claim that you can play Windows games better in Linux (which I doubt so).

[mjoolnir]

Well 3D games is what I meant, I've run GBA/SNES ect emulators fine on linux. But when you need to emulate a win32 system... your FPS isn't gonna be pretty >.>

[painsama]

It can't be helped when it comes to 3D games isn't it? (sweat)
But i've heard that people play Warcraft 3 (and some other popular 3D games) on Linux using Cedega, and they say the FPS is even better than Windows (another sweat). I've never tried that though. :p

[BigRob2k8]

I usually use Mandrake Red hat or SUSE Linux, thsese are my favoirte version of linux, I haven't tried any other linux systems @ all, later on, I'm gonna do a dual-boot of Linux & Windows XP PRO SP2 like I did back then, so I can switch back & foruth.

[Klikodesh]

I prefer Gentoo over Win and I also have my win tuned.

Is wine capable of running japanese games ? I tried it about 7 years ago maybe it can run something now.

Yes it can but seems quite random which works correctly the fonts are the problem. Managed to copy the fonts from the installed japanese win to wine and worked but not always. I do not even have win installed anymore. :st:

[.tomi]

A happy Gentoo Linux user here. [KDE 3.5.5] Portage rocks :P

About emulators, ePSXe works almost flawlessly: no lags, good framerate, and linux sees my USB-Dual_Shock_socket thingie ^^

[painsama]

About emulators, ePSXe works almost flawlessly: no lags, good framerate, and linux sees my USB-Dual_Shock_socket thingie ^^[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
No luck with that. Did you use the Windows version with Wine? Or the native Linux version? No luck with both (probably I should try again btw :p)

[DRAGONPOWER]

um, i started using ubuntu 6.06 LTS ... i believe it's debian core ;)

i love it man! its so neat! only thing is u need to manually install mp3 support (and possibly other audio/video codecs?). I am quite new 2 linux, i have a great friend who showed me SuSE about 2 years ago, ubuntu is a great Linux distro to start off with!

still wrestling with audio & video codecs, some DVD don't work 4 me , and internet browsers (firefox/konqueror so far) for example, video playback is buggy and wmv doesn't really work ...

and i need a few tips on how to create a partition for a dual-boot windows-linux!

and forget the ati drivers man! (i have a 9600xt 128 @ overdrive) my friend say they r probably the hardest thing u can do on a linux platform!

lol!! :D

[painsama]

and i need a few tips on how to create a partition for a dual-boot windows-linux!
I'd partition from linux installation DVD though with that graphical partitoning tool. But using fdisk (for example from any linux rescue disk) would do better.

[DRAGONPOWER]

heyyyy took me a while but i managed 2 get the ati driver working!

ubuntu help guides are top class, i dl codecs, patches, and a lot more!

i recommend u start here and READ the posts b4 doing anything: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232059

good luck to all ati users! :D

[Randomshinichi]

Ah, I remember what I did trying to get Savage 3D support to work:

1. cvs -d :pserver: something dri.freedesktop.org xorg
Configure one of the files in it.
2. cvs -d :pserver: something dri.freedesktop.org dri

download Alex's Savage DRM/DRI module snapshots

Snapshots always compile.
Hope to hell XOrg CVS compiles (6.8.99 Minimal DRI build)

Then the laptop would always crash. I thought it was because of DRI, but later on, like, about two years later, I found it was the damn CPU Frequency scaling. Never buy a VIA C3, guys. Never. Also, never buy a Savage. It sucks **** - all that trouble I went through just to get ZSNES OpenGL output working. Not much use for it other than that.

BTW, it's just ludicrous that FCEu needs OpenGL output to run smoothly. A blitted 2D texture on a triangle setup in 3D is faster than simply putting the 2D image to the screen. How sad is that.

[irateprostate]

Im kicking Ubuntu 6.06 right now and its working pretty well, I had some problems with hardware, but who doesn't on a fresh linux install. So far i've observed far faster preformance when I had XP (Shudders) And even though most games don't run well if at all, the linux ports i've downloaded so far are about the same as XP, except without the unexplained program closeing/locking up my game right before I was going to save and just beat that incredibly hard boss guy.

[BOFH]

Slackware user here. Well, I've used five or six different distros before, but Slackware is my all-time favourite.


really, why would you want to play on Linux instead of a perfectly capable games platform that is Windows?That's the only reason I still have Winblows XtraProblems on one of my computers - games. Rebuilding it every three to four months is too bothersome to use it for anything else. And I'm _not_ going to Vista... ^_^

~ Sayonara ~

[.tomi]

Anyone here uses Xgl and Beryl besides me? :P I'm on Gentoo BTW. ^^ I like building my system from nothing, you don't get unnecessary things that way. ^^

[RyuHayabusa]

Suse linux for me.

[nave7693]

Anyone here uses Xgl and Beryl besides me? :P I'm on Gentoo BTW. ^^ I like building my system from nothing, you don't get unnecessary things that way. ^^

if you are talking about starting from stage1 then from my experience there is no performance advantage of doing so. I use gentoo because I like the level of control over packages portage gives me, so no matter how you mess with stuff things seldom breaks (or stay broken before a fix is out).

[.tomi]

if you are talking about starting from stage1 then from my experience there is no performance advantage of doing so. I use gentoo because I like the level of control over packages portage gives me, so no matter how you mess with stuff things seldom breaks (or stay broken before a fix is out).
I was talking about that other distributions that I've seen had an installer which installs some programs by default and that you don't have that with Gentoo as you can install only the necessary things to run the OS (and that you start the installation from an empty partition and have control of the process). ^^;;

And yeah, it's good that they've changed the installation guide to stage3-only as you would get basically the same thing when doing bootstrap (stage1).

[deadcoat]

Use Ubuntu 7.04 find videos look better on it than on Xp. And utorrent has doubled its download speed. Basically use linux to watch videos and windows for games.

[MrWiseman]

Currently, I'm using (at home) Kubuntu Feisty, which is a more convenient Debian unstable, has OVER NINE THOUSAND (in fact over 21000) packages, and comes with KDE. After installing the base system I uninstall the useless stuff, install the useful stuff (mc, htop, mplayer, wine, nvidia driver), clear the system of unnecessary services (KDE resident processes, KDE services, daemons) and choose decent spartan decoration.

Beryl/Compiz are great to own poor sad Windows Vista losers, as it offers superior features and performance (in fact, the Beryl guys said they can't understand how did Microsoft manage to make Aero so ludicrously slow without doing it on purpose), but at the end of the day you don't really want any of that. You don't look at window borders; you look at window contents. You don't get stuff done with a window manager, you do with an application. So you need to optimize your system to run the important stuff and get rid of all the superfluous stuff.

Either way a modern Linux/GNU/dpkg-based system with access to Debian or Ubuntu repositories own Windows and anything Microsoft ever did so badly it's not even funny anymore.

[cyress8]

VISTA FOR LIFE, SON!!!!!

*flees*

Seriously OpenSuse here =P I love xgl and beryl, awesome stuff since im the type of person that loves to have a unique comp

[JR RAD]

Either way a modern Linux/GNU/dpkg-based system with access to Debian or Ubuntu repositories own Windows and anything Microsoft ever did so badly it's not even funny anymore.

Well Linux is AIDS-less lol. I actually bought my Linux Suse 9.x long time ago and boy did it suck didn't have support for my ATI card back then and since I didn't know how to upgrade it (Lintard here) it really sucked playing tux racer without 3d acceleration.

I eventually removed the ATI card and replaced it with Nvidia but the whole experience of using Suse got the bitter taste in my mouth and since I'm lazy with learning command lines (basic DOS is all I know and that's even fading away slowly) there's no future with me with Linux unless I make my private file server but I don't like the idea of having a fat32 just to talk back and forth from Windows to Linux on real time file access with read/write abilities, unless SMB does that?

Linux for me is like a tootsie pop, different Linux flavors and to experience them fully you got to keep on licking till you get to the juicy center.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but so many different distro so little time and only have one computer it's hard to make the switch, unless there's a vanilla or banana flavor tootsie pop I'm not switching lol <-- a joke I kill myself (room is silent)...

[MrWiseman]

@JR RAD: Try a Debian-based distribution. If you want a good starting point, try Kubuntu (if you prefer KDE), Ubuntu (Gnome) or Xubuntu (Xfce). You can also install one and switch to any other by installing certain metapackages, effectively having all three at once.

You shouldn't have much trouble with any of these, and you shouldn't need to use the command line for all the basic stuff if you don't want to. Though you should learn the basic commands and where are certain desirable files to edit, it's useful regardless of the OS you are using.

As for ATi, I've heard there's an experimental driver with some accelration, but I never tried it as I use nVidia-based graphics cards.

And as for sharing files between Windows and Linux: Linux, as the superior OS, supports the others' filesystems. You can read NTFS (probably in a few months also write), and write FAT32. You can create a smaller partition, 1-5 GB, to share files between Windows and Linux, or use an external hard disk or solid state disk (stick, pen drive, whatever end-user name they want to use). You can also make the FAT32 partition larger and store all video and music files there, the performance impact for these applications is not important (unless you edit video).

SMB is a mediocre protocol from Microsoft (well, that was redundant) to share resources over a network. Linux includes much better performing server and client under the name of Samba. You can use this to share files between Windows and Linux as long as both of them are running at the same time, typically in different machines.

[ChronoSphere]

I'm a new Linux user, installed Fedora 7 a week ago after my WinXP f-ed up really bad (Couldn't install any prog, and half of all programms stopped running cause of runtimes corruption. Couldn't re-install the runtimes either :D ) , now slowly getting used to a linux environment.

I've got some questions, some might be really noobie ones but oh well =P

1.) what is the directory all the programms are installed into?
If i install something by myself by doing ./configure && make && make install, will the programm be installed into the current directory or is there a special one?

2.) Is there a directory where a programm saves its settings?
For example, Azureus under winNT saves which torrent you have loaded and which settings you have into <systempartition>\<userdir>\<application settings>\Azureus, which dir is it under linux?

3.) Audio Player
I'm using foobar under winNT, what to use under linux? There seem to be many different ones, but what I need is flac, replay-gain & embedded *.cue support (I have a big collection of .flac disk images with cues embedded. It would be a pain to have to extract them again =_=)

4.) Video Player & Codecs
I'm using the CCCP (MPC + ZPlayer) under winNT, what is the closest equivalent? MPlayer? Something else? D:

edit:
5.) Which FS should i use for linux itself, which for the data?
ReiserFS? ext2/3? LVM?
What are the differences, pros/cons? (Maybe someone got a link? ^^)


You can read NTFS (probably in a few months also write), and write FAT32.Actually, you can already write to NTFS and it seems to be stable. Look here. (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/)
I'm using those drivers since 1 week and got no problems so far... other users seem to not have problems either.

[Randomshinichi]

Windows XP fscked up really bad now. Might be a hardware problem (having 3 hard disks jammed together without a fan beside them), but I'm definitely switching over to Linux and XFS once this is all over. After all, Vista on my new laptop runs just fine :) I don't trust any laptops with Linux, doesn't matter what you're gonna say.

Why XFS? Because you can defrag and fsck while the thing is mounted, so you don't have to keep those boot disks lying around. Also, practically no one makes boot floppies with XFS tools on them, but you don't need boot flops when you're trying to fsck XFS.

@Chronosphere
5. http://bulma.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=642
Just Google for ext2/3 vs Reiserfs vs JFS vs XFS vs whatever.
4. MPlayer. Yes. Only MPlayer. VLC works, but I never figured out how to compile it from source.
3. Audacious. I think that music player under KDE is nice as well, forgot... ah, Amarok. Amarok's nice too. Real nice. Not sure about the .cue support though.
2. In Linux it is /home/username/.'applicationname'. A dot in the beginning of the directory/filename means it's hidden.
1. Most of the ./configure && make && make install programs install in /usr/local. For example, /usr/local/etc, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/share

tips for n00bs: 'cd ' without a directory takes you to /home/username, which is also called '~'. So, "~/Black Lagoon" would be /home/username/Black Lagoon.

@Wiseman
How is Samba superior when it's just using the same protocol as SMB?

[MrWiseman]

what is the directory all the programms are installed into? Bingo, that's my least favourite thing about Unices. Take a look here (http://www.pathname.com/fhs/). Distributions will install everything mixed together, and directories such as /usr/bin are boxes-o-crap where everything goes. Code and data are stored very differently, which helps some administration operations on big multi-user environment, but terribly difficults others and is mostly useless in a sigle-user environment. Furthermore, you cannot install two different versions of the same application without lots of hacking. Your best chance is to compile things yourself, using --prefix to give every application a sane base directory, then if you must have them in your PATH, create a directory of links which you place in the path, where you create symlinks to every executable (binary) you want in PATH.


3.) Audio PlayerI never tried Audacious which Randomshinichi recommended, and tried Amarok but it looked XBOX. If you're like me and want a spartan system to spend resources where you need, you'll like mplayer, without front-ends. Just mplayer files, and you'll be playing them. You can go backwards and forwards in the list, change volume, etc. with fairly intuitive keys; check man mplayer for more info. You may also like XMMS, which looks like Winamp.


4.) Video Player & CodecsI recommend mplayer too. It's the closest thing to MPC+ffdshow, and will play all of your anime, including Matroska files with subtitles.


5.) Which FS should i use for linux itself, which for the data?Ah, nobody knows for sure ^_^. Their performance depends on your hardware, so you'd have to test to see. However, here are some general tips:
- ReiserFS is generally the fastest filesystem ever. It has the disadvantage that recovery from crashes might be less successful, but I don't know to what extent is this just a myth. Some distributions dropped support for it since Mr. Reiser got jailed for killing his wife (SuSE), but others recently added support for it (Ubuntu). It's also very space-efficient, and self-reorganizing. You generally don't need to care about defragmenting.
- ext3 is a journaled version of ext2. Don't use ext2, ext3 supercedes it. It's the most traditional Linux filesystem, well tested and simple, though probably the worst performing for most operations. You might find some drivers for Windows to read this.
- JFS and XFS are alternative journaling filesystems. They perform similarly, but I believe XFS was slightly geared towards better writing and JFS towards better reading. IIRC, people who edit video like XFS. Either is usually a tiny bit faster than ext3, but slower than ReiserFS.

Personally, I use ReiserFS when I can (never had a problem with it), but on one of my machines I started with Kubuntu Dapper, which didn't have ReiserFS support, and went for JFS (I have many reads).


Actually, you can already write to NTFS and it seems to be stable.Yes, I knew about several NTFS projects, but they're still hardly supported by distros and installing them requires some hacking, which JR RAD did not want to do.



Vista on my new laptop runs just fineEnjoy your less battery life and more heat due to wasted CPU time on crap, AIDS (digital restrictions management) :p . If you want to run Windows, at least run the good ones, i.e. Windows 2000 and Windows XP in that order (Windows XP is a bit better for wireless, though it requires more tuning to get rid of all the crap they added to it).


I don't trust any laptops with Linux, doesn't matter what you're gonna say.Trust? You trust an ill-intentioned American corporation to hijack and control your machine and decide whether you can do some things or not with your files, and you don't trust good-intentioned free software makers?


How is Samba superior when it's just using the same protocol as SMB?By having a much better, less naïve implementation. Ever noticed how the network neighbourhood in Microsoft OSes works like crap, takes ages to see other computers, sometimes fails to, is unexplainably slow, etc.? Well, SMB on Windows has a Microsoft-quality implementation.

[Randomshinichi]

Errr.. Wiseman... are you one of those GNU nerds that shout everything GNU is good?

Let's see here: The real reason I don't trust any laptops with Linux is that I run the DIY ones (I think most distros' default installs install way too many programs for my needs...) and this means I have to spend months configuring this and that and making sure Hibernate/Suspend2RAM works, and making a bootsplash.
Plus, Vista is actually well behaved, once you tune it (which still takes less time than installing and compiling my own kernel source to compile svgalib modules or something, or compiling my own mplayer, keeping track of which library is where in case the default binaries that come with the distro crash with Beryl). Haven't run into any DRM issues so far. Battery life is 4 hours max, and I didn't even have to touch a thing on CPU frequency scaling (I had a hell of a time trying to get that to work in Linux+VIA C3, and in the end had to make do with the max 933MHz). 2GBs of RAM ensure that I don't hit the disk that much.

Bottom line, Vista just works out of the box. If it were a PC, I guess I could spend a couple more Watts or so configuring and compiling Linux stuff, but on a laptop I need it to work, and do so fast. BTW, xorgconfig still doesn't mention anything about widescreen resolutions.

Seriously, though, that AIDS DRM thing isn't an issue at all. I guess it's because my laptop doesn't have a TPM module... or the fact that I download everything from BT, not from online stores...
EDIT: SMB Microsoft: tru dat

[gvbn]

anyone else using arch linux?

[MrWiseman]

Errr.. Wiseman... are you one of those GNU nerds that shout everything GNU is good?I am a geek, but no, I'm not a GNAA fanboy. I just tell the truth. Windows' SMB implementation is mediocre, as are most things from Microsoft. I don't have a problem pointing out what's good from Microsoft (for example, I like the Windows NT process scheduler better than the Linux 2.6 one, which is very efficient (O(1)) but less fair and more sluggish, though I need to play with it a bit until I can form my final opinion), nor what's bad from GNU/Linux systems (for example, the FHS, or the obsessive-compulsive case-sensitiveness).


The real reason I don't trust any laptops with Linux is that I run the DIY ones (I think most distros' default installs install way too many programs for my needs...) and this means I have to spend months configuring this and that and making sure Hibernate/Suspend2RAM works, and making a bootsplash.You say Linux distributions are bloated, and you run Vista? DUH. Simple: get rid of Vista (kill it with fire), then install a Debian-based distribution. Then get rid of all the crap you don't use. You end up with a much better system, and several orders of magnitude less bloated than Vista, and far more secure. Better performing, too. And batteries should last longer.


Plus, Vista is actually well behaved, once you tune it (which still takes less time than installing and compiling my own kernel source to compile svgalib modules or something, or compiling my own mplayer, keeping track of which library is where in case the default binaries that come with the distro crash with Beryl).Why are you willing to get rid of some of the crap of Vista (you can never get rid of all, plus it has AIDS in the kernel), and you are not willing to install a clearly superior Linux distribution and just uninstall a few packages and edit a runlevel? Also, although Beryl/Compiz are much faster than Windows Vista's Aero, I recommend using a simpler, spartan window manager (it doesn't have to be ugly; KWin or Metacity are ok) with a simpler, spartan theme (such as Quartz), because you want to run, use and watch what's in applications, not window borders, right?


Haven't run into any DRM issues so far.Vista is already monitoring what you do, and its criminal restrictions on high-resolution video apply. Several opaque, closed-source executables you have installed right now have the functionality to call home as they wish. And your OS provider is not on your side, but on the side of criminal American mafia corporations. I won't say more than this; it's your choice.


2GBs of RAM ensure that I don't hit the disk that much.And perform like you would on Linux with just 1 GB RAM, and much less power consumption due to that.


Vista just works out of the boxSo does AIDS.


If it were a PCIt's a PC.


xorgconfig still doesn't mention anything about widescreen resolutionsSimply edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add them. They should work. Google for modeline calculators.


Seriously, though, that AIDS DRM thing isn't an issue at all.Lol, ok, you keep thinking that like a good consumer :p .

[Randomshinichi]

anyone else using arch linux?
Ahem: I moved to Arch Linux from Gentoo. For me, it's like Gentoo, but with binaries: daemons are defined in /etc/rc.conf, so it's really simple, editing the pacman repositories is much easier than any Debian-based distro's repositories; doesn't install gdm with a couple hundred themes and so when you install the OS plus a couple text editors; and the archlinux.org wiki actually helps.

MrWiseman, I'm sure your intentions are benign (they'd better be) but this kind of persuasion shifts me a bit farther from Linux and a bit more towards the Unix distros, who don't toot their trumpet as brazenly as some Linux people do.

Nah, maybe I won't install Solaris. Just yet. I'm very happy with Vista, after all.

EDIT2: Disabled some more Windows services said to be phoning home here (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml). Down to 42 concurrent processes at boot, from 50. Yes, 50 on a fresh install of Vista, as compared to 20 processes on a fresh install of XP.
Feel free to comment, MrWiseMan!

[gvbn]

oops i missed your post earlier in this
thread. i moved from gentoo too

[MrWiseman]

MrWiseman, I'm sure your intentions are benign (they'd better be) but this kind of persuasion shifts me a bit farther from Linux and a bit more towards the Unix distros, who don't toot their trumpet as brazenly as some Linux people do.No problem. But you'll still have a hard time explaining how you consider Linux distros to be bloated and then go and run Vista, the ultimate bloat. I can't understand how would an Arch Linux user enjoy Vista and vice-versa. They are polar opposites in inefficiency, bloat, cost, AIDS, and corporate abuse, and you know which side is Vista in these 5 criteria.


Down to 42 concurrent processes at bootMy Windows 2000 has 11 processes on boot, counting the idle process.

[Randomshinichi]

oops i missed your post earlier in this
thread. i moved from gentoo too
Hmm.... how was your exp with Gentoo and what made you move to Arch?

Oh yeah, MrWiseMan, my Linux computer has about 52 'tasks'... I don't know what that is. Are those like 'processes'? I'm using htop... will post example output later.

[MrWiseman]

Oh yeah, MrWiseMan, my Linux computer has about 52 'tasks'... I don't know what that is. Are those like 'processes'? I'm using htop... will post example output later.Depending on your kernel, you'll see threads as if they were independent processes or not.

Linux derives from Unix systems, which were much older than Windows NT, and relied strongly on process forking (something you cannot do on Windows NT). They did not incorporate threads until not long ago, so threads are not so widespread among some traditional Unix services, which still fork into different processes to attend requests, but you'll see they are the same executable image. Unfortunately, because of this you cannot really compare the number of processes between Linux and Windows NT, but you can definitely compare memory available for processes (i.e. unused memory, which better be minimal, plus system cache memory, which better be copious).

[ChronoSphere]

Thanks for the info guys, but I fear i'm still not ready to move to linux after all <.<
Acouple of problems occured while i was trying to move to linux. Most annoying ones were related to japanese folder/file names. I was using UTF-8 names and it seemed to be ok, the files were open-able but if i tried to move/copy/delete them, i always got "invalid or incomlete byte character" errors.

The delete error was the best though: "Cannot delete the file because it already exists" :p I was like "yeah i know it exists, why do you think i'm triying to delete it <.<"

Another annoying thing was that some folders were not visible under linux, most likely cuase of those byte errors....

Same under KDE, Gnome, Xfce...

Plus, MPlayer somehow has troubles displaying subtitles, even though I made sure the settigns are correct. The subtitles are marekd as active but are not displayed (.ass subtitle format, for example Eclipse's Claymore eps) and there is NO audio player that supports FLAC with embedded cue files.

I want to continue exploring linux though, I just dont know what distribution to chose. I'd like to have a slim system that doesn't eat many resources, it would be perfect if there is a way to build a linux that is optimized for my hardware, I'm just not sure it's possible <.<

I don't mind if i have to spend hours in the command line, I actaully love it :p
Any help?

[Randomshinichi]

ChronoSphere, I've had those problems in the past with my Jay Chou/Li Hom mp3s. My solution was to move back to XP.
I don't think there are any serious input methods for the Linux console, other than xcin or something (some kind of terminal emulator that accepts chinese input but runs only under X). As a result I don't think it's possible to manipulate Chinese/Japanese/foreign language files under Linux. For instance, I once had an mp3 by Johann Johannsson. There was an accent on the last 'a'. I couldn't copy it, move it, or even rename it, even though it displayed properly, and tab completion worked.

Distros that probably would fix your problem would be those made by the Chinese/Japanese/foreign language people themeselves. Go to distrowatch.com, or Google.
Arch Linux is slim, Debian is like that too, but it offers selections of packages to install if you say that your computer is a 'laptop', 'desktop' or 'server'. Gentoo lets you compile everything for your own CPU. If you're trying to make sure it's totally slim and mean by omitting any unwanted dependencies (for instance, you don't want ZSNES to install libpng... you just want to play the games!) you can try Gentoo. The USE flags are the key.

EDIT: Oh yeah, WiseMan, I moved to XP from Vista on my laptop. Couldn't stand Vista taking up 9.6GBs of space.... after all I'm going to be bringing a lot of anime around with me! Vista was so polished though... I'm working on vLite right now. Feverishly. And a VM.
If anybody knows how to fix the foreign language filenames under Linux, please please post it here too! I've read tons of Unicode howtos and still haven't figured it out.

[.tomi]

For Japanese/Chinese/Korean input you can SCIM. It works like Windows' IME.
There IS a player that supports FLAC+CUE, you must find it, though. Audacious can, for example.
As of encoding, Wndows uses SHIFT-JIS for Japanese, so you may have some troubles when mounting, because of different encodings.

Oh, and for MPlayer, if you want to watch a movie with ASS subtitiles, you need to add "-ass" option or set "ass=true" in the config file. Of course you have to compile MPlayer with ASS support beforehand.

[ChronoSphere]

There IS a player that supports FLAC+CUE, you must find it, though. Audacious can, for example.I was talking about FLAC+embedded CUE. Which Audacious cannot playback (it just sees a big, single track FLAC file)


As of encoding, Wndows uses SHIFT-JIS for Japanese, so you may have some troubles when mounting, because of different encodings.Not sure about that, sinceevery japanese .txt file (SHIFT-JIS encoded) was appearing as rubbish unless i opened it with an i-net browser.

I first thought it's an encoding problem too, BUT: I made an UTF-8 encoded .txt and saved all the names in it. Then switched back to linux and got the same thing, "invalid halfbyte"


Oh, and for MPlayer, if you want to watch a movie with ASS subtitiles, you need to add "-ass" option or set "ass=true" in the config file. Of course you have to compile MPlayer with ASS support beforehand.
Mhh.. I was using the MPlayer with GUI rpm from the fedora repository and there was an option to enable ASS subtitles in that gui... but it didn't work. Maybe i should compile it by myself next time D:

[.tomi]

Oh, embedded... hmm I don't remember even seeing such files. :p

As for MPlayer, if you couldn't set "Enable ASS" (or something) on, then that means ass support wasn't compiled.

[ChronoSphere]

About the MPlayer, no, I was able to tick the checkbox, but the subtitles were simply not appearing. I tried different subtitle encodings too, no result. I was restarting MPlayer after changing the options, if you were wondering :p

Btw, is tehre any player that supports multimedia keys? I have a Logitech keyboard with player control keys, but they seem to not work with any player <.<

[Shragei]

if the key is registered with mplayer as a not bound event then you can bind an event too it :p
The default keys that are useful for mplayer:
v, enable/disable subtitles
j, switch subtitles
#, switch audio tracks
f, fullscreen
the rest of the keys are easy to figure out or you don't need, tho -/+ are useful to adjust A-V timing.

oh one more thing. If your having problems with ass subtitles try making a file ~/.mplayer/config with these lines


sid=0
ass=1
correct-pts=1
embeddedfonts=1

[ChronoSphere]

if the key is registered with mplayer as a not bound event then you can bind an event too it :p You mean going to the Shortcuts menu (or how it was called - forgot already) and bind, let's say the event "play" to the key "play" on my keyboard? If yes, then no, it didn't work =/

[Shragei]

You would have to run mplayer in a console window to check it. When you run mplayer any errors are displayed in the console and a non bound key is considered an error. If the play key works with Xorg then mplayer will see it and show up as an error. At that time you can bind it to an action in mplayer through the config file.

[MrNoBS]

It seems like Ubuntu has really come a long way since I last used it. I should give it a shot again on a noncritical computer like my laptop. Probably not a good fit for my desktop.

[dljesse]

I'm using Kubuntu right now and I like it a lot. I runs a lot faster than my Windows XP ever did, and I can play pretty much all of the games I played on Windows through Cedega. The only things I don't like about it is the lack of a more convenient way to mount .iso files and I'm not sure if I can play H-games on it. I wish there was a program like Alcohol 120% or Daemon Tools.

[Randomshinichi]

Can anybody tell me if Ever17 works under Wine/Cedega? I'm sticking to Windows mainly because of that game, even though I'm too busy to play it :D I really don't care about Touhou 10, just tell me if Ever17 works!

EDIT: Scratch that, I also need to know if Sakura Taisen 2 and 4 work on Wine/Cedega as well. Thanks in advance!

[384191]

can anyone help me?
i have installed linux fedora core 7,
after finished installation, my monitor suddenly shows nothing it only shows "sync is out of range" when i try to enter the GUI,
or maybe becouse of my VGA card,. my VGA card is ati radeon x1600, is there any solution?
thx!

[Randomshinichi]

1. You specified a monitor resolution that was too high for your monitor. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the resolutions part. It should look something like this:
Depth 16
"1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
The one on the left is the default resolution that X11 will switch to. Change that to some resolution that your monitor supports.

OR
2. Vertical Refresh rate is probably too high for your monitor. For instance, some LCD panels don't accept any input higher than 60Hz. err... run xorgconfig. I don't know how else to fix that.

[Shragei]

as root user run this command Xorg -configure X will try different settings to find one that works. Then run Xorg -config xorg.conf.new and see if you get the default checkerboard screen with an X for the mouse. If you do then move xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

[Randomshinichi]

Hey, what's the difference between Xorg -configure and xorgconfig? I'm kinda old fashioned, I guess, but I don't have a Linux installation to test out what this does.

[Shragei]

Xorg -configure is automatic and no user input is needed.

[Aeternalis]

Xorg -configure is built into newer versions of X, it tries to automatically generate a compatible Xorg.conf by probing your graphics card/monitor

xorgconfig is a somewhat outdated external config generator that asks you questions about your system and generate a xorg.conf based on that

there's also an xorgcfg (or something along those lines, that will detect settings and open up a basic gui for you to tweak the settings more)


but generally you'd want to autogen using Xorg -configure and then edit anything manually by hand

[384191]

as root user run this command Xorg -configure X will try different settings to find one that works. Then run Xorg -config xorg.conf.new and see if you get the default checkerboard screen with an X for the mouse. If you do then move xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

um..., how does you apply this,,,:

If you do then move xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

i'm still don'tknow how to aplly those thing!!

[Shragei]

as a root user do this in a console mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
It's not that hard

[384191]

so i just type:
"mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf"

but there is another problem!
after a few days, my linux won't start booting.....
it always written GRUB
after DMA check!!
why???

[.tomi]

Umm... So, the GRUB does not boot after you power your PC?

[384191]

thats it!!! you hit the jackpot!!! (just kidding)!!!:kakashi:
after i wait for a long time it still don't want to boot!!:o
how can i fix this problem???

[Randomshinichi]

Can you please be more explicit next time you post a problem? Find out what GRUB is, what it does, and tell us (or some other people) what exactly is it not doing.
Right now it seems like it's not finding the right kernel on your boot partition. You need to boot Linux from a rescue CD, edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst according to what kernel files are actually in /boot.
It would be great if GRUB could actually list all the files that are in /boot, but that's just life.
EDIT: I'm so glad there's so many people here who run Linux....

[384191]

rescue cd???????
how can i make it?
if it is for windows I have one!

Can you please be more explicit next time you post a problem? Find out what GRUB is, what it does, and tell us (or some other people) what exactly is it not doing.
hmm. thats why i'm asking, if i know some of it it would be easier to solve the problem, but i still a newbie, so i'm sorry for not knowing much!

[.tomi]

Hm, so if the bootloader doesn't load, then you can try downloading, for example, Gentoo Minimal CD (http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml). Then after booting the live CD, mount your root partition, chroot there and run grub-install.
Oh, you must copy or make mtab file beforehand, grub-install uses it.

[384191]

whoa thx alot :kakashi:

[ChronoSphere]

I'm starting to hate (k)ubuntu. First time i installed it, it hanged up every time i clicked somewhere on the GUI. Now i tried to install NVIDIA drivers, rebooted and it can't start up anymore... and the boot screen is covering all the possible errors ... somehow there were less problems with fedora for me <.<

Any help on how to change the runlevel to something that allows me to login over the console to try to fix the Xorg config?

[Skimpy]

ChronoSphere, if your xorg.conf is broken you should be booted to a terminal right away since gdm can't start unless theres a good xorg.conf. Also kubuntu should have a recovery mode when you boot into grub, so you should boot into that and fix your xorg.conf there.

[ChronoSphere]

well, i don't know if it's broken - it loads past the loading screen then a black screen with a blinking cursor appears - i can type anything i want but it doesn't show any reaction.

i'll try that recovery mode, thanks for reminding.

edit: Ok, it worked. Now, how do i install the nvidia drivers properly? My eyes hurt looking at a 60Hz refreshing rate screen =_=

[Skimpy]

ubuntu wiki is your friend. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-1e90fd209c2d9de181defe5296296c2daccf5fff)

[gvbn]

i have yet to see a distro that does
automated graphics driver installation
correctly. usually those result in
1. hardware acceleration not enabled
2. X refuses to start

i suggest you run nvidia's own configuration
tool after installing the driver package. that's
the only way you're going to get a working
xorg.conf

[ChronoSphere]

Used the kubuntu packages - X fails to start -> "no screens found, please ensure there is a NVIDIA device present"
Used NVIDIA's official package - x fails to start -> same error mesage.

I have a 7600GT (agp), it worked fine with the fedora 7 distro.. i wonder why kubuntu is having probs.

[Aeternalis]

last time i tried ubuntu, the nvidia driver installation was fairly horrible, some tips:

make sure the nvidia kernel module loads
make sure your xorg.conf (device section especially) is correct.

[ChronoSphere]

Meh i gave up getting ubuntu to work once again.
Moved back to Fedora and now everything seems to work fine, the NVIDIA drivers, japanese filenames, the .ass subtitles in mplayer.... (i posted about it some pages back)

Now i only have to find an audioplayer that reads .flac with embedded .cue sheets and get the media keys on my keyboard to work and i'm more or less set to move to linux.

[Sudokian]

Tried Ubuntu 7.10, and it still sucks.

[Randomshinichi]

Arch/Gentoo forever!
And perhaps some Solaris too, although I never really used it.

[ChronoSphere]

Yay, more questions :D

1. Sudden HDD activity:

I don't know if it's supposed to be that way but fedora started accessing my HDD out of a sudden, w/o any visible programms running. Happened after soem mins of inactivity on my side, maybe an auto-defrag of some sort? I'd like to know what it wants from my HDD <.<

2. Compiling&installing programms/plugins

Normally one would do it with ./configure && make && make install, ne?
Well, what if the only files i have are configure.ac, Makefile.am, and a .c file?
It won't let me run a ./configure since there is none... how do i make one? :d

[Skimpy]

1. Sudden HDD activity:

I don't know if it's supposed to be that way but fedora started accessing my HDD out of a sudden, w/o any visible programms running. Happened after soem mins of inactivity on my side, maybe an auto-defrag of some sort? I'd like to know what it wants from my HDD <.<

2. Compiling&installing programms/plugins

Normally one would do it with ./configure && make && make install, ne?
Well, what if the only files i have are configure.ac, Makefile.am, and a .c file?
It won't let me run a ./configure since there is none... how do i make one? :d

1. When does it happen? like right after booting up, or just having it sit there?

2. Look at the read me in the folder and it should tell you how to install it. And what are you trying to compile?

[.tomi]

It won't let me run a ./configure since there is none... how do i make one? :d
Open one, see what's inside, think if you really wanna write one, and then google for a tutorial. :p
I think that's a bash script, by the way.

[ChronoSphere]

1. happened once so far, after "having it sit there" ^^

2. i tried to compile the inputflac plugin for LAMIP (look here (http://fondriest.frederic.free.fr/realisations/lamip/download.html))
there is a readme in the archive, with the size of 0kb *cough*

and i'm pretty sure i don't want to write a configure script myself. i once opened one, didn't like it at all x3

[Skimpy]

1. hm.... well im stumped, but this is also a common problem people have. I've actually gotten this problem a few times on ubuntu, while using gnome so........ maybe : P. Try asking or search around linux forums, you might find an answer.

2. Well on the site it said that some plugins such as your inputflac plugin might not work, or outdated.

[jedisolo]

Asus has released a 7 inch 400 dollar laptop that runs a modified version of Xandros. I plan on buying one next week.

[.tomi]

2. i tried to compile the inputflac plugin for LAMIP (look here (http://fondriest.frederic.free.fr/realisations/lamip/download.html))

1. Download and extract the archive
2. cd into the <whatever>/inputflac
3. Try this:

autoscan

aclocal

automake -a

autoheader

autoconf

./configure

[384191]

heyya there!
i hve some question!
how did i played game that based on windows in linux (i use fedora7)
maybe step by step coz i'm newbie, um.... and how to install it!! thx alot!!;D

[gvbn]

heyya there!
i hve some question!
how did i played game that based on windows in linux (i use fedora7)
maybe step by step coz i'm newbie, um.... and how to install it!! thx alot!!;D
install wine

[Skimpy]

heyya there!
i hve some question!
how did i played game that based on windows in linux (i use fedora7)
maybe step by step coz i'm newbie, um.... and how to install it!! thx alot!!;D



yum -y install wine

[ChronoSphere]

@ .tomi:
I'm getting a lot of warnings about not found defs & files... so i assume the plugin is really broken. Thanks for the help though, those cmds will be usefull later :D

Damnit. That was the most promising player to playback flac+embedded cues.... -,-

[.tomi]

@ChronoSphere
Huh? Oh, wait... that plugin needs some outdated FLAC libraries...
I'll try compiling it. ^^

*edit*
Okay, it should work:
http://www.badongo.com/file/5021645

[ChronoSphere]

thaks, .tomi, LAMIP now at least tries to load the plugin. I get a warning, however:
WARNING: Error dlopen /usr/local/lib/lamip/libflac.so: libFLAC.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directoryI did paste the files into this directory (as su root) so i'm not sure what it wants from me <.<

[11Z11]

Hello guys, had not seen this thread before, anyway ubuntu user here, tomi interesting commands...i'm guessing they automate or generate some stuff...anyway i'll look em up, I always copy interesting code to see what it does.

ChronoSphere a couple of the files in that archive are blank, this file may be busted...the read me is blank...first time i've seen that

[.tomi]

@ChronoSphere
You have to install FLAC librariers (download the sources from the FLAC site).
That plugin used version 1.1.2 or older.

[ChronoSphere]

Hmm i had the latest FLAC installed, does it mean it needs the older version to work? O_O

Got to try that....

[Shragei]

1. happened once so far, after "having it sit there" ^^

2. i tried to compile the inputflac plugin for LAMIP (look here (http://fondriest.frederic.free.fr/realisations/lamip/download.html))
there is a readme in the archive, with the size of 0kb *cough*

and i'm pretty sure i don't want to write a configure script myself. i once opened one, didn't like it at all x3

when their is no configure script just run make and make install. Packages that have no little dependencies just libc mostly come like that. In the case of flackinput its lamip and flac libs.

[ChronoSphere]

when their is no configure script just run make and make install. Well, if i try that i get a "no file specified or no makefile found" error <.<

I give up. I have all the libs, flac and now even though i get no warnings, the playback doesn't work and the plugin doesn't even show up in lamip. Thanks for all the help but looks like i'm either too dumb to make it work or the plugin is really broken.

[Randomshinichi]

And this is why Linux isn't going to be on any main desktop of mine anytime soon:

Just looking through my library: I have mp3, ogg, ape+cue, flac+cue, dts, a bit of wavpack, spc and psf, and not a single player that's anywhere near foobar2000 in Linux. Although I suppose you could use Bannister's programs for game music.

But! like Kamina, never give up! (I'm just running Linux in VMWare for now, hehe)

[ChronoSphere]

Well, i got foobar wine'd but it still doesn't run as stable as under win... plus it crashes if i want to view the embedded cover images <.<

And i still didn't solve the issue of random extreme HDD activity (to the point the whole PC freezes)

A question about SELinux: Should i enable it? Or is it not worth it? So far it just buggs me with annoying messages about programms changing files. I mean omg, ofcourse they change them, they're config files u.u

[yvanc]

Hiya! Just wanna know if theres any linux users in this forum. I'm planning to transfer to linux. What distro are you using what do you recommend for anime enthusiast like me?:)

[MrWiseman]

I think this thread already exists somewhere else. Of course, I use Linux. I'm glad you want to switch to a free OS made by people who are on your side, instead of trying to fuck and scam you in favour of media corporations.

I recommend you to try Kubuntu 7.10. Get and install the system (should be fairly straightforwards), play with it a bit, and maybe check the great online community creating wikis and posting at message boards in case you have any problem or comments. It's a sister distribution to Ubuntu, but I think you'll like Kubuntu's KDE desktop better than Ubuntu's GNOME desktop (and it's more Icaza-free :p ).

For multimedia, I recommend you to enable the Medibuntu repository (info and howto (information on how to do it) here: http://www.medibuntu.org/ ), then open Adept (or Synaptic) and install mplayer (best player for anime, think of it as Media Player Classic), maybe KMplayer for a good front-end to mplayer, and perhaps you can find or compile SMPlayer which is my personal favourite if I wanted an mplayer front-end.

If you live in a free country, be sure to install libdvdcss to play DVDs freely — again, on Linux players are on your side, not media corporations'.

[ChronoSphere]

There is a thread about linux here (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40420)
I had bad experience with (k)ubuntu so i got back to fedora. But for some reason linux seems to dislike my PC.. or me, cause it won't run very stable ^^;

If you don't have some extravagant needs (flac with embedded cue playback, for example. If you find a linux player that can do it, i'll give you a cookie :p ) then linux should have everything you need. I agree with MrWiseman about MPlayer ^^

[yvanc]

ahehehe, didn't saw that thread. Its nice to see a good community of linux users here also. I think I'll give ubuntu a try.


There is a thread about linux here (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40420)
I had bad experience with (k)ubuntu so i got back to fedora. But for some reason linux seems to dislike my PC.. or me, cause it won't run very stable ^^;

If you don't have some extravagant needs (flac with embedded cue playback, for example. If you find a linux player that can do it, i'll give you a cookie :p ) then linux should have everything you need. I agree with MrWiseman about MPlayer ^^

[Randomshinichi]

Well, i got foobar wine'd but it still doesn't run as stable as under win... plus it crashes if i want to view the embedded cover images <.<

And i still didn't solve the issue of random extreme HDD activity (to the point the whole PC freezes)

A question about SELinux: Should i enable it? Or is it not worth it? So far it just buggs me with annoying messages about programms changing files. I mean omg, ofcourse they change them, they're config files u.u

OK, I know that if Vista is accessing the hard disk it's either indexing stuff or defragmenting. So I don't know why Linux is pounding the hard drive like that. That's not good.
BTW, if you're new to Linux, don't mess around with SELinux unless you really know what you're doing. I think those kinds of people who would bother to do so encrypt their swap, memory, and put their config files on a separate partition (encrypted naturally) and make hourly backups of them.

One note: if you're using Linux for video and stuff, make sure you're using VIDIX! and MPlayer - that's a good media player, if you get a good frontend, that is. GMPlayer is a little too complex to be my audio player.

[ChronoSphere]

OK, I know that if Vista is accessing the hard disk it's either indexing stuff or defragmenting. So I don't know why Linux is pounding the hard drive like that. That's not good.I feel watched when it starts to do that. Am i getting paranoid? <.<

BTW, if you're new to Linux, don't mess around with SELinux unless you really know what you're doing.Well, it was enabled per default so i didn't turn it off... security and stuff.. i thought of it as a virusscanner of some sort.


VIDIX! and MPlayer - that's a good media player, if you get a good frontend, that is. GMPlayer is a little too complex to be my audio player.What is VIDIX? And yes i am using mplayer... with the default interface, i think.

[Ooame]

I have a desktop which runs vista that i play all my games on. And then i have my laptop which is running linux it plays games alright. I have WoW installed on it aswell as Counter-Strike:Source. I havent tried playing any japanese games on it though, using Wine.

[.tomi]

Vidix? I think XV with XVideo extension works better. And not every card support vidix IIRC.

And KDE is bleh. :st: Customizing this thing is a pain.

[yvanc]

Just installed ubuntu gutsy gibbon last night. Interface are easy to use for beginner like me. I wonder if lolifox can be installed on linux.

[Shragei]

A question about SELinux: Should i enable it? Or is it not worth it? So far it just buggs me with annoying messages about programms changing files. I mean omg, ofcourse they change them, they're config files u.u
no. It isn't worth it. SELinux is really difficult to configure and isn't really needed unless the computer needs to be really beefed up in the security department.
If I was going to beef up security I would use AppArmor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparmor) instead.

[bongmaster]

i'm too lazy to read all thieas pages :D

but puppy Linux is a good small distro and makes a good webserver witt the dotpup install of xampp ;) just for those of you with a doorstop that could be used for a better purpose (like an amd k6-2-500)

[Randomshinichi]

I feel watched when it starts to do that. Am i getting paranoid? <.<
If you're being watched, shouldn't someone else's hard drive across the globe be writing like crazy instead?

VIDIX is this... hardware accelerated video overlay that's chip specific. I like it because it works when you have Compiz/Beryl on and if you don't have XOrg, it still works through mplayer -vo cvidix, but XV just gives you a green screen instead and requires XOrg. (man, it's been a few months since I've done that... I miss Linux) Oh and it's supposed to be a bit faster. I have a very faint impression of it, since it's been a while, so don't trust me on the 'faster' part.

I suppose KDE's Control Center can be daunting. I still think GNOME reminds me too much of Windows, though... especially that horrible caramel plastic interface. Ew. Makes me want to get back to Windows, to be honest.

OLD GEEZER TALK: I remember the old days when I had my VIA C3/ProSavage DDR laptop, and the VIDIX that came with MPlayer would crash all the time, and I would download the VIDIX libraries from the website, and work my head around where the compiled files would go and where MPlayer had installed its savage_drv.so - damn I still remember that filename, it was driving me nuts - that was a major hassle. Oh, and it almost worked... I got a different error message instead. Eventually I gave up. Another reason why I don't think Linux is ready for the desktop yet. (and you're saying it's a long time ago... no, it's just a couple months, and MPlayer 1.0rc8 or something hasn't even been updated since then)

But VIDIX on my Radeon VE works just great. As I said, it works even when you turn on Compiz/Beryl, which is a good thing (after all if Vista can have a 3D desktop and still play video, if Linux is to compete it's obviously gotta be able to do the same thing). CVIDIX also works. Support for R100 Radeon cards in Linux is very good, overall.

Then there was the time I got impatient with KDE/GNOME in general and messed around with Fluxbox and eventually IceWM with a Linux-tan wallpaper... ok I'll shut up now.

[.tomi]

Just installed ubuntu gutsy gibbon last night. Interface are easy to use for beginner like me. I wonder if lolifox can be installed on linux.
Yes, you can.

[11Z11]

For media i use vlc player and have the full win32 codec pack installed, basically i can play files of type which i have never even been in possession of.

Randomshinichi, Question, I have this laptop, dell lattitude cpx..j,I think, 650 p3,129 ram, I installed xubuntu 7.04 cause it was suppose to be less of a hog...and well it is but not by much,let's just say it struggles which i think is mostly because of the small amount ram.

before ubuntu i had run ds linux , i was blown away at the speed and tiny ass memory footprint...i mean i dare say i think it took 16 mbs of ram to run, I removed it cause i tried to make it into a full os for my laptop and their unique package system and traditional methods clashed.

I know long read...My question is was the speed of dslinux because of fluxbox and efelm...think that what it's called the window manager,would that speed up xubuntu?any info on how to setup fluxbox to setup links...stuff like that?also i know of ndslinux dsl bigger bro,is it a viable os for my laptop and will it suffer from the same package clashes like dsl?

[yvanc]

What video encoder do you guys recommend for linux? Something that encodes videos into flv files. thx in advance

[Randomshinichi]

For media i use vlc player and have the full win32 codec pack installed, basically i can play files of type which i have never even been in possession of.

Randomshinichi, Question, I have this laptop, dell lattitude cpx..j,I think, 650 p3,129 ram, I installed xubuntu 7.04 cause it was suppose to be less of a hog...and well it is but not by much,let's just say it struggles which i think is mostly because of the small amount ram.

before ubuntu i had run ds linux , i was blown away at the speed and tiny ass memory footprint...i mean i dare say i think it took 16 mbs of ram to run, I removed it cause i tried to make it into a full os for my laptop and their unique package system and traditional methods clashed.

I know long read...My question is was the speed of dslinux because of fluxbox and efelm...think that what it's called the window manager,would that speed up xubuntu?any info on how to setup fluxbox to setup links...stuff like that?also i know of ndslinux dsl bigger bro,is it a viable os for my laptop and will it suffer from the same package clashes like dsl?
I know what you mean... I had 192MB RAM in my Coppermine machine and you know, GNOME or KDE just wouldn't run that smoothly on it. XFCE (you're using that right now, aren't you) was an improvement, but more performance could be eked out by switching to Enlightenment/Fluxbox/IceWM.
Window managers in general shouldn't really make a noticeable impact on performance, it's when you factor in all the bloat that goes into a Desktop Environment, like nautilus, konqueror, the taskbars, the application that manages the desktop background... window managers just provide those close, maximize and minimize buttons. I don't know how to run metacity on its own, but one thing's for sure:

apt-get install fluxbox OR
apt-get install icewm (or something like that, search with aptitude)
Gotta warn you though, IceWM takes you back to the days of Win95.
As for Damn Small Linux-not, I think it uses the same package system as Damn Small Linux.
EDIT: @yvanc: learn how to use ffmpeg

[Randomshinichi]

The first two screenshots are Fluxbox running on my old Celeron 600MHz back in the beginning of 2006. As you can see, it looks rather techy and abstract-ish, which may tickle your fancy...

Then the one on the right is Enlightenment17 CVS, compiled, oh, I don't know, back in 2005 or something and running on my ex-main computer, Athlon XP 1800. E17 has lots of plugins which make cool FX on the desktop without consuming any CPU. For instance, for the third screenshot with the GAGraphic background, I actually had snow falling down from the top of the screen. The bad thing about running E17 CVS was that each time you compiled a new one, you would pretty much lose all your themes and backgrounds, which is why I gave up on it back then and went on to things like Fluxbox. E17 has progressed a great deal since then.

Am I converting anybody over yet? :D

[ChronoSphere]

Am I converting anybody over yet? :DYeah, me xD

I already wanted to try fluxbox/Enlightment but something kept me from doing so. I guess i'll have some fun in my christmas break, too busy atm ^^;

[yvanc]

Have any of successfully installed scim-tomoe in your system. I seem to be having trouble installing the gz package I downloaded last night. In case you installed scim-tomoe in your system, please teach me how you got it working, I am using UBUNTU 7.10. thanks a lot.

btw, for those who didn't know, scim-tomoe is a handwriting recognition engine for kanji lookup.

http://tomoe.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/en/blog/index.rb

[Dark Savior]

I tried linux however the problem of drivers for my hardware pose a problem. Therefore until they made more software that would be capatible with linux i'm going to stick with windows.

[Skimpy]

I tried linux however the problem of drivers for my hardware pose a problem. Therefore until they made more software that would be capatible with linux i'm going to stick with windows.

wow, seriously? when was the last time you tried and what drivers did you have problem with?

[11Z11]

Guys in the words of cartman, I've been having hella trouble installing ubuntu on a g4 850(i think) 512 ram geforce 2 mac version mac, downloaded gutsy ppc desktop, it would hang after the loading text and nothing but black screen, tried nosplash but i was sent to into blackbox ...unsure what to do there, the 64ppc option asked me to macboot or exit, it got farther than the none 64 which i should use but hung as well.

Next i downloaded the feisty version same desktop ppc,hung on live and on nosplash it said hdd not found which i know means it was looking for that device....any ideas guys?

Oh and and tried e16 not 17 not available in ubuntu repos,yeah i know it's out there but it's beta...i usually avoid beta unless someone can vouch for stability,I got annoyed with because when i went to try those...applets?,I got this skyhigh menu and when trying to select one of them the menu would close and i'd be sent to another menu item, could not figure it out...yes i tried to sticky the menu per instruction but it would not work.

i ended up trying and learning to configure fluxbox...i like how it works, which reminds me tried fluxbuntu on that dell i was talking about, it booted up way slow which surprised me because it was using fluxbox...i'm confused about that...runs roxfiler as it's file manager which i tried but did not like to mix with fluxbox because the flux menu was thown aside for the roxfiler one,by the way,recommendations for a file manager?also how do get icons on fluxbox's desktop?

[Randomshinichi]

Guys in the words of cartman, I've been having hella trouble installing ubuntu on a g4 850(i think) 512 ram geforce 2 mac version mac, downloaded gutsy ppc desktop, it would hang after the loading text and nothing but black screen, tried nosplash but i was sent to into blackbox ...unsure what to do there, the 64ppc option asked me to macboot or exit, it got farther than the none 64 which i should use but hung as well.

Next i downloaded the feisty version same desktop ppc,hung on live and on nosplash it said hdd not found which i know means it was looking for that device....any ideas guys?

Oh and and tried e16 not 17 not available in ubuntu repos,yeah i know it's out there but it's beta...i usually avoid beta unless someone can vouch for stability,I got annoyed with because when i went to try those...applets?,I got this skyhigh menu and when trying to select one of them the menu would close and i'd be sent to another menu item, could not figure it out...yes i tried to sticky the menu per instruction but it would not work.

i ended up trying and learning to configure fluxbox...i like how it works, which reminds me tried fluxbuntu on that dell i was talking about, it booted up way slow which surprised me because it was using fluxbox...i'm confused about that...runs roxfiler as it's file manager which i tried but did not like to mix with fluxbox because the flux menu was thown aside for the roxfiler one,by the way,recommendations for a file manager?also how do get icons on fluxbox's desktop?

You have to use a separate app to put icons on your desktop. ROX desktop should provide icons, but I used another app which I forgot. In any case you'll eventually find yourself mucking with ~/.fluxbox/startup to get that app to load whenever fluxbox starts.

What's wrong with Blackbox? Rightclick on desktop, find something like 'xterm' or 'Eterm' or something, and run it, and you're in control of your system again. Or if you don't know what to do.... hmm that is a problem. You'll have to find a way to run that ubuntu installer. Go to Ubuntu's online documentation, find that application, and guess its name. yeah, I don't run Ubuntu myself.

I'm just bullshitting here, but this is what works:
1. First thing to do is always run fdisk to partition your hard disk.
2. Second: format your partitions - type in mkfs. and press tab - you should get a list like mkfs.ext2, mkfs.reiserfs, mkfs.jfs, mkfs.xfs etc... you can also use this method when guessing the installer's name - and specify the partition you want to format. Read up about filesystems so you can choose which to use. To make a ext3 filesystem, use mkfs.ext2 -j
For swap partitions, use the command mkswap and to 'mount' the swap partition, use swapon. so for example 'swapon /dev/hda3'
3. uh.... you run the installer. I don't know how this works in Ubuntu, but in other distros, you mount the partition you want to install to, check your date (you don't want any file modified in future warning messages), install some kind of base framework on the partition that at least includes /bin, /usr, /etc and /var, and chroot into it, and proceed to install everything through apt-get.
4. Install bootloader. Use GRUB, it's reliable.
5. Type exit to get out of the chroot. Now you may reboot.

Yes, my first distro was Gentoo :D I have found no bugs with e17, even though the last time I used it was over a year ago. The worst I can say about it was that it was incomplete back then.

[Covvie]

Linux Users = Lusers.



Should I post this post on Slashdot and have the whole wrath of the open source radicals descend upon your head?

Please

[Randomshinichi]

Linux Users = Lusers.
Should I post this post on Slashdot and have the whole wrath of the open source radicals descend upon your head?

[384191]

hey guys is anybody here have the installation file for totem movie player???
it's very urgent!
i accidentially remove it!
please! thX!

[11Z11]

So? Download it from the repos,or build it from source, download a prebuilt binary .deb or.rpm for your disrto, pick an option, not sure why you have not simply got another copy it can't be all that big

[384191]

So? Download it from the repos,or build it from source, download a prebuilt binary .deb or.rpm for your disrto, pick an option, not sure why you have not simply got another copy it can't be all that big

thx pal finally i found it!
and how about the codec so i can play avi or other fomat,,,
also how can i play mp3 on totem? do i need the same codec?
thx!

[Maul Sarrowtail]

Running on Fedora 8 (I have been running Linux since Fedora Core 2... the experience in short was a matter of growing pains and adjustment)... in a word, wow. Loving PulseAudio (yay, no audio locking with two programs... cool shit with the audio server, etc.), Desktop of the week, Xfce... it's like Gnome, but much smaller and since I push Fedora on an P3, small is what I need. Compiz-fusion is really shaping up, but I will see if I can update my system and pull it up (i810 is not up to the task, tested it on a P4 via the Fedora-Gnome-liveCD[i386]). SElinux is FINALLY easier to manage with the troubleshooter... yum is getting faster (through, they REALLY need better GUI's for it... through good news, if you live in fedora I would wait till Fedora 9... PackageKit is coming, and from what I hear, it's really good). Codina is not as bothersome as I originally expected, hell it provides a legal pathway to thing that most PC/Mac users over look (I speak of Audio/Vedio codec's completely) but still I can understand people issues with it (and I'll be honest, I get the codec support from RPMfusion anyway). The Gnome theme's are nice, the spin projects are interesting... and it's pretty much on the bleeding edge of things development wise.

What can I say, I like what I got here... growing pains aside, their is alot to control and learn. Would I suggest Fedora to a first-time user? No, can't say that I would... you still would have a lot to learn even if you were an intermediate user (which I am). And as a rule, LEARN THE DAMN COMMAND LINE and all that it in compasses... (really, this one thing has saved me on a few occasions) which is something that most new-users wouldn't do or don't care to learn, in which alot of fedora corrections lay within... but hey, if you want to learn... You can't really go wrong with Fedora (Nor can you with Gentoo, OpenSUSE, Slackware or Arch... just remember one thing, you are going to have to take risks with all FIVE distros).


Oh yeah, got a question.... maybe I can help, so ask away...

Maul Sarrow

[gvbn]

and how about the codec so i can play avi or other fomat,,,

change totem engine to xine-lib if you haven't already
gstreamer is horrible

or are you talking about win32 codecs?

[384191]

can you guide me step by step? and where can i get those codecs?
please! sorry i'm still newbie!
thx alot

[11Z11]

Gentlemen,I am need of some assistance,as usual the help channels were there ever useful self and google proved to fail this time again...er maybe my prob needs a specific fix.

I have 2 software raid arrays that i need to nuke md0 md1,they were both created with mdadm and both use the same drives hde hdg,never mind how i ended up doing that,i have tried stopping them then marking them faulty and removing the drives or md's themselves,changed partition type of drives,even tried to zero the super block but nothing(damn machine would not allow me to zero the blocks)

I come here in hopes of finding a solution, thank you in advance if you actually read this...tired of these gotta do something and crawl through google in hope of useful info

Z

[jazst]

The only game I actually remember that worked for me on wine was red alert a long time ago (and it wasn't fullscreen either). I suppose things have changed from back then.
My favourite distribution would have to be debian (because i know it and am not willing to learn the differences and try another one).
Tried gentoo but personally think it is useless to osmeone that is not already a linux expert since it does require the user to know a lot about what they want to do even before they actually know they will need it, or even before they know what exists. So I suppose it is good for someone whi already knows gentoo or for someone who has a friend that can help in the initial stages of setup.
You can of course learn all from scratch, but it just means you have too much spare time.

[11Z11]

don't bet on linux gaming anytime soon,that's what's holding some of us to windows,I can understand why you would not want to try other distros,learning the quirks of a particular distro takes time,to my credit i have tried damn small linux as well and i think had i not prior knowledge of linux gained from learning ubuntu and cmd line,i would not have been able to do much.

[11Z11]

er nevermind, i have yet again solved my own problems.

[miyo]

Another linux user here o/

running gentoo, and loving it thanks to its customization possibilities. Though, sometimes I still need to dual-boot to windows.

[Randomshinichi]

er nevermind, i have yet again solved my own problems.
Yeah, I go on gentoo.org as Motoi-Sakuraba-Milfeuille (anyone got that?, har har) and as you can see, I always end up solving my own question some time after posting a post on it... I don't know, it just works that way. Same on Ubuntu forums, too. I haven't dared post on Archlinux.org because of that.

[camman977]

I use Ubuntu Linux on my desktops, but I use Windows on my laptop, due to poor hardware support.

[11Z11]

Problem is,so far as i have noticed anyway, it's almost as if the problem you have is never addressed...it's either some easy ass thing someone can't figure out or some obscure/gui app some of us could care less about because we're trying to learn the structure of linux and the cmd line thus knowing what is important,.....you know what it just hard to explain the feeling of looking for help in such a way....where you may not get helped for"not phrasing a question correctly"

Believe me,I'm not one of those dudes who says just duh i don know,

By the time if ever i go to a channel,it's usually cause i am tired or run out of ideas...that and i don't have any goto linux guy i can count on...or know...makes you want to join a linux crew or something.....

[Randomshinichi]

I'm sure it happens to everyone who's a Linux user at some point.

[Dasuraga]

I used to try varius linux distros through live CDs, but I'd never install any of them because it wouldn't accept my wifi card(The #1 problem with Linux).But I was able to get one working(Ubuntu 7.10), so I'm dual booting right now.

[Randomshinichi]

Which card is it? If it works on Ubuntu you just have to (gasp) compile the modules and install the firmware for other distros. I'm sure each distro has a solution you can easily install, though.

[stormwyrm]

Your last hope in getting a wireless card to work with Linux is ndiswrapper. Allows you to use Windows wireless drivers in Linux. Recent kernels have got loads of built in support for wireless: even the Broadcom 43xx cards have experimental support. I'm running Gentoo right now on a laptop with an Intel 3945 card and it works pretty well.

[eternal0void]

Ndiswrapper works well but if you comparison shop you won't have to do anything other than let Ubuntu install your wireless card for you. There are wireless cards which use the RALink chipset, which are supported with binary drivers. Heck, the RALink chipset is supported by the Free Software Foundation because RALink has open source drivers.

I found one such RALink card locally for US$19.99. Ubuntu installed that card's drivers automagically and I didn't have to do anything.

Personally I have discovered the wonders of Cedega and am adding games as quickly as possible. Some game companies have entered into mutual agreements with Transgaming (the company that makes Cedega) and as such games like TES-III:Morrowind and TES-IV:Oblivion get Linux support straight from Transgaming.

One reason I really like Cedega compared to Windows is that Cedega runs all Windows Games, not like with Microsoft where you can run Windows XP Games on Windows XP, but not necessarily games from older versions of Windows. A specific example is that the third installment of the "Discworld" games, called "Discworld Noir", will ONLY run in Windows 98, not in Windows XP. "Discworld Noir" runs without a hitch in Cedega, which means I can do something in Linux which you sometimes just can't do in Windows: run modern games and older games on the same machine, without fancy dual-booting.

While I take a lot of grief from my Linux purist friends who think that closed-source anything is straight outta Hell (I don't even try to talk to them about ndiswrapper), I rather like the nVidia card drivers even though they are proprietary closed-source drivers. I've got a nVidia e-GeForce 7600 GS running with 256MB VRAM, and while its nice in Windows it just sings in Linux.

[eternal0void]

can you guide me step by step? and where can i get those codecs?
please! sorry i'm still newbie!
thx alot

I think anyone who is new to Linux should be using Ubuntu. They really make (most of) Linux really easy.

Specifically, your question: in the Ubuntu "Main Menu", there's an option called "Add/Remove". Unlike in Windows where this is largely limited to installing Microsoft stuff and uninstalling third-party stuff, as Ubuntu comes standard with free and mostly free software this option gives you access to all of the software available through the Ubuntu software repositories.

Once you get into this application, there's a pull-down menu which usually starts on "Supported Applications", but you can pull it down and select "All Applications". Once this is selected everything available to Ubuntu users becomes available, including what Ubuntu refers to as "non-free", as in "licensing" (sorry, no actual copyright infringing stuff).

From there you go into the menus. "Sound & Video" contains selections for the codecs needed to view videos and listen to audio files, basically select all the "GStreamer" checkboxes which aren't checked yet. Ubuntu will whine about how you are selecting "non-free" software, but you want to do this so just click on OK all the time.

The only other place you'll need to go to get those valuable codecs is in the "Other" menu, where you will check the box next to "Ubuntu Restricted Extras". Again, a lot of "non-free" whining can be shut up by clicking on OK.

Once you've checked all the necessary boxes (and anything else you'd like to install, be sure to look at all the options for really fun stuff, especially in "Games", "Education", and "Accessories"; users of video should install the VirtualDub-like "Avidemux" from the "Sound & Video" section; and UseNet News Binary downloaders should definitely check out "Klibido" in the "Internet" section), click on the "Apply Changes" button. Ubuntu will connect to the Ubuntu Internet software repositories, downloading all additional files required (no dependent files will be left out), and then installing all the applications for you. Most of these applications will be added to the "Main Menu" for you as well.

Ubuntu has really taken an OS used largely by hobbyists and desperately poor people, and turned it into a true desktop OS competitor.

If you want to try playing Windows Games on Linux, be sure to go to www.cedega.com and check out the Cedega application. You'll have to pay for a subscription to get the Cedega binaries (the source code is freely available but you will have to compile it yourself...) but a three month subscription was only $15 last time I checked, and $15 to be able to run most Windows Games in Linux is well worth the investment.

[Nameless Chibi Neko]

Dual booting Ubuntu 7.10 and XP SP2 currently. Only real reason I've been keeping XP around is because Steam and the Touhou games, among others, don't wanna play nice under Wine lately, so I've gotta boot into XP to play TF2 or any of the other games I've bought through steam.

Also, I've tried Cedega, and haven't had too great of luck with it. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong, but when I try binding my steam apps directory to the new directory so I'm not wasting a good 26 GB of hard drive space on redundant data, it craps out on me.

[.tomi]

I've been keeping XP around is because Steam and the Touhou games
ZUN's Touhou games works OK on Wine. TH10 too if you install DX9.0c.

I tried running something on Cedega. Haven't managed to run or install any game. xD

[Randomshinichi]

Valve says it's going to port the Source Engine over to Linux. Who bets its new name is 'OpenSource' (haw haw)?

[Exo001]

I never had *any* issues with touhou after the wine version where they started to work for the first time. Source engine games tend to crash on me online though...I think it's the custom sounds people use on their servers (I was playing CS:S).

[mimika2008]

I'm using Fedora, I dont think Wine has been good enough to run 3D games which are designed for Windows platform

[Shragei]

Ok now I have a small problem. Well it isn't really a problem more of a annoyance. I have a few applications that are moving the pointer to there newly created window and not letting me manually do it. The two programs that are doing this is inkscape and audacious. I know E17 has an option to do this but I don't have it set, so I know it is either the programs them self or GTK+ that is doing it, but I don't know how to turn this option off if it is GTK+ or the programs.

[Randomshinichi]

I've used audacious under Linux, inkscape not as much that I'd remember what it does. What I can tell you is that it doesn't happen on my box, i.e. it's probably not a feature.

[ruinevil]

I know in KDE you can set cursor focus on new windows in the Peripheral -> Mouse menu. Maybe there is a similar thing in Gconf somewhere.

[theavenger]

Last version of VirtualBox claims to support 3D acceleration. Has anyone tested that?

[ellegarden]

Still using Linux right now, and not enjoying it. I started using it a number of years ago and back then it was good from a programming perspective, but now that I focus mainly on windows GUI apps, I have little need for it. I don't like not being able to play subtitled MKVs, I hate relying on WINE to play visual novels, etc. etc.

I had my run, I became VERY accustomed to it, now I want to go elsewhere.

[erofile]

@ellegarden

you best be trolling n*****

[redshirt]

Not much elsewhere to go, unless you want to switch to Mac...

or back to Windoze.

[gvbn]

Still using Linux right now, and not enjoying it. I started using it a number of years ago and back then it was good from a programming perspective, but now that I focus mainly on windows GUI apps, I have little need for it. I don't like not being able to play subtitled MKVs, I hate relying on WINE to play visual novels, etc. etc.

I had my run, I became VERY accustomed to it, now I want to go elsewhere.
use wxwidgets or some other cross-platform
gui toolkit. last time i checked mplayer plays
matroska subtitles just fine

[ellegarden]

@ellegarden

you best be trolling n*****

Sadly not


Not much elsewhere to go, unless you want to switch to Mac...

or back to Windoze.

Pretty much.


use wxwidgets or some other cross-platform
gui toolkit. last time i checked mplayer plays
matroska subtitles just fine

There's no point using various add-on software when I could go straight back do Windows as it is for a much more reliable outcome.

I used to love Linux, and I still think it's good, only my needs have changed and my attitudes have changed. It's excellent the sense that such a well programmed operating system can come from something essentially free, but I don't need it anymore. I loved the technical side of Linux when I used Slackware, Arch and Gentoo, I loved kernel hacking, compiling from source tinkering with config files, but when it comes down to it, I just want something that works. I tried distros like Ubuntu, and while they were as friendly as linux gets, they weren't what I was looking for. I can program for linux, and if need be I still have a cupboard full of liveCDs of various distros I've tested and reviewed over the years, but now I just want to go back to windows and enjoy my H-games and hassle free computing.

Just thought I'd clear that up. You won't find any elitist issues from me, I don't think that either 'sucks' or anything like that, just a change in needs really.

[xxGAKUTOxx]

I use Windows XP x64/Vista Ultimate x64 As my primary atm,
although I have used Ubuntu since it stably came out.
Only reason I don't use GNU/Linux as my primary OS (Surprisingly, it has nothing to do with games) is that the ATi Driver doesnt give me the option to set fan speed on my Graphics card. I can't allow my 4850 to overheat and blow-up (Which it will do, overheat that is) since the fan won't turn on (Which ATi should have thought of if you ask me).

EDIT:
IF anyone can confirm a reliable way to make my fan on my graphics card spin (At a percentage that I can control) please let me know.
I'm tired of hoping back and forth lol.

[gvbn]

you could control fan speed in windows
by editing xml files. this was before they
released catalyst 8.10

but really, 4850's stock cooler is fucking
horrible. do what i did and get a proper
aftermarket cooler. i think you can get
accelero s1 rev 2 + turbo module for less
than 30 bucks

[delphinen]

Im a long time Linux user (my first Linux was a Red Hat 5.2); these last 4 years I have been using as my primary operative system Debian/Windows 2000, next was Ubuntu 6/Windows 2000, then Gentoo/Windows 2003, after that Fedora 8/FreeBSD 7/Windows 2003 and lastly I have currently installed today OpenSolaris-1/Windows XP Professional. OpenSolaris its growing up so fast that its amazing me, include Nvidia drivers in the installation, more hardware compatibility everyday, a fully working Gnome 2.4 that is faster on Solaris everyday, Compiz, ZFS, Dtrace.... and you start wondering if OpenSolaris wont "win" the fight of operative systems after all.
I also use every day since 4 years too FreeBSD from 4.4 STABLE to RHEL Virtualization server at work.
I have to say that my preferred choice for home from my experience is Gentoo and his awesome Portage system.
Based on what I learned from my work, I can say that both FreeBSD even the oldies one perform with unexpected performance, and that RHEL with Xen (with another RHEL with Cpanel, a Debian, and a Windows 2003 Server) works really impressive and its super stable, and that the Red Hat team works with an amazing professionality.

Aside from that, I like Windows XP start up boot time.