Too much political thread!!

[stigermorgan]

dun u all realize that so many political thread all over the HF it maybe a hot topic to discuss but it actually a bit out of track. i just dun believe what is gonna be and also some thread are realiting the religions topics it was really hot topic to be put and some blood may spill i just wanna know what do u guys thinks!!!!!!! :kakashi: Peace for All

[ShadowZero1]

This coming from someone who says they don't like to read long threads?


Hayate's Pope thread (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56973) has been turning into a mini-HF version of the very thing they were discussing... which is interesting in a way if you think about it...

As for the Bush threads ( http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56987 , http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56866 , etc.) ... well, you know... it's Bush...

...and let us not forget the New Orleans thread (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32997) which has been going on for a year and still going strong...


I think it's just because there hasn't been any new anime and stuff to keep ourselves busy. I'm looking forward to Kanon (2006), Nanoha StrikerS, the Shakugan no Shana movie and the likes but they haven't come out yet. I'm sure once stuff like that comes out, we'll all be too busy to care...

[Atachi]

how about an "english gramatics"-thread once in a while? :p

*flee*

[StarWarsGalaxies]

Well, America is becomming more and more f*cked. Hence, ppl b*tch about it. And thus, the problem arises.

[Keade]

I think there may be too much, considering we are on an anime site.
Actually I've just been surprised (bad surprise) when comparing posts count of The Underground>Anime discussion>General chat. But it seems anime/manga/etc can't be the central topic forever. The same goes for other big forums I visit.

For various reasons, I don't really care about these topics, so I just read bits sometimes, or ignore them, or lurk at the internet drama which often occurs.
Why not simply ignore them, or open non-politics topics, stigermorgan?
(ps : please, your spelling/punctuaction...)

[jedisolo]

This is a anime site so maybe the General Discussion chat should be about General Discussion in all forms of anime ranging from political views in anime series to religous views etc. If you want to talk about real life go to another forum.

[Shragei]

dun u all realize that so many political thread all over the HF it maybe a hot topic to discuss but it actually a bit out of track. i just dun believe what is gonna be and also some thread are realiting the religions topics it was really hot topic to be put and some blood may spill i just wanna know what do u guys thinks!!!!!!! :kakashi: Peace for All
I have been *****ing about this to the other mods recently. It kind of irks me, that everyone can't come up with new topics that don't relate to news or politics. I just don't want to weed through these types of threads all the time.

[Hayeate]

how about an "english gramatics"-thread once in a while? :p

*flee*

Hmm...this gives me an idea.


Well, you could create a sub-forum for news and politics. But then why bother having an Anime Discussion section, if you're going to limit the General Section to anime related discussion?

I disagree because there already are enough boards, and some of them receive almost no activity. I think it's best we leave General undivided. Besides there are only around 3-4 political threads active on this forum. I fail to see the problem here - if you don't like these type of discussions, then simply don't participate in them. Start your own thread about something you feel is worthwhile, or try to keep non political topics alive. I agree that there is plenty of interesting stuff to talk about besides politics, it's just that these kind of threads have a lot more heated arguing going on inside. I posted a news thread recently, and within a few days it grew to 10 pages long, faster than any other topic I ever began (except that anti-loli thing a decade ago, but it was shut down within a few hours).

[zer0kage]

Stiger has got to be from somewhere like HK and whatsoever considering he can type Chinese perfectly and the way he writes his English posts.

Maybe once in a while we should open less serious topics eh?

[stigermorgan]

humour topics maybe more interesting than a political one but still hard to find the idea itself.lately the topic is went to be so boring

[entr0py]

You know, the great thing is you don't have to post in or even read every thread. Personally I find the threads about world events or politics a lot more interesting then all the threads about the crushes and tragic breakups of 14 year olds. . . But everyone has their own tastes. :P

And ultimately what makes hongfire a community rather then just another anime website is the veriety of people and interests that gather here. Sure all of us like anime, but if you have a life you're bound to have other interests and opinions as well. And I enjoy the opportunity to get to know you people beyond discovering what silly japanese entertainment you're into. ;)

[mewmew]

@stigermorgan: If looking for new interesting topics is what you desire, then perhaps you can change the title of this thread to topic something like "Looking for Interesting Topics" or "Topic Suggestions".

I like zer0kage's suggestion. After a day of school, I'm in the mood so something not serious. News is important to me too, since I don't watch television or listen to the radio much when I'm at school or when I'm studying

[Bubblemonkey]

I really don't see what the big deal is about.

If you want less serious topics, go to the Underground or the Pub. If you can't find something you like, then create a thread there that's to your liking. If you want to talk about Anime, then go to the Anime discussion section. That's what it's there for, after all. General Discussion was designed for discussions of things not related to Anime (hense the fact that it isn't in the ANIME section), so it makes sense that political threads would pop up there. We have different sections for a reason...trying to turn the General Chat into another Anime Section or into another Underground makes no sense.

As far as this being an Anime site, I feel that the fact that it isn't all anime all the time is a plus, seing as how anime isn't the be all end all of my range of interests. I, for one, hardly ever post in the Anime section any more because there hasn't been anything I felt worth discussing that's Anime related...if the General Chat was transformed into another Anime section, I suspect my participation in this board would drop significantly.

Again, I really don't see what the big deal is about.

[ZuruZuru]

Maybe cuz you're revelling in the politics and news?
You yourself having started many threads already that are in this category.
Just love those exploding batteries right?

I find it boring myself to find these same topics on the front page of the general section over and over again. If people were to live in other countries, sometimes news of another country would not concern them and they won't care at all about the discussion at hand. Also when it comes to politics, you can having people BSing eachother for as long as they want because frankly you can't really tell from their sources being reliable, they are telling the truth, they really know what's going on, influenced by other people's opinions, and their own assumptions.

If I wanted news, I can easily go to read my local newspaper or go to a website which specializes on news. I often see these exact same topics being posted up on the board. For example, steve irwins death, I've seen it at least 3 seperate times before I finally saw it at HF. But when someone does post it, they usually make a opinion, or comment whether true or false or opinionated. People who read the thread usually take after the comment, neglecting the time to read the whole article and instead taking that person's comment as what is really meant.

I can't read what Stiger says anyhow so I usually view him as the village idiot even though he might not be one.

[Bubblemonkey]

Which is why we have a ton of other sections to choose from if all the politics/tech news/whatever isn't up your alley. Why blame the people (myself included) who frequent the political/technological/whatever threads for simply doing what interests them? It's not like we're forcing people to read those threads or our participating in these threads takes anything away from the threads in another section. Did my exploding battery thread force any Anime section threads to die off or prevent anyone from creating a thread about some new anime they were intersted in? Does Hayeate's pope thread force people who'd rather frequent the Game Corner to sift through all the pages against their will? Did any of the Bush themed threads prevent anyone from creating a more humorous thread in whatever section they wanted? No. Quit the b**ching, as there's no grounds for it. This whole thing is silly.

[Fusilier]

Well, on the one hand, you'd have the added clutter and encumberance that an additional subforum would have, which leads to bad forum design.

On the other hand, I have to say that too many of these threads ends up crimping people's fun factor. Sometimes you just want to relax and have a bit of fun, and not worry about all the stuff happening in the world(and this week has been particularly bad I would add). Sure it violates the taboo of being "unaware", but as my policy professor would argue, even the Attentive Public likely only has a few issues that they can have much of an opinion about thanks to the sheer number of issues today, and even I have to admit that when I go out here to smell the flowers and bask in the sunshine, I'd rather not have the nasty stormcloud of heavy political/social/economic stuff nearby.

Edit: On the other hand, Bubble is probably right that the The Pub and Underground serve those functions already.

[Starkadder]

Really don't see the problem. The moderators or creators of Hongfire have divided up the forum into sections so that you would not have to weed through items that you are not interested in.

If you are interested in Anime, then you go to the Anime General Discussion or to a more specific anime related sub-forum, you got a Manga section, a Hentai section. There are also more sections that I have never visited for people that are interested in those topics.

If you are interested in non-political discussion, then you need to support such threads as they come up, or create ones that interest you.

One wonders if these complaints against political threads is just a means to drive away certain members on HongFire.

[Shragei]

Well, you could create a sub-forum for news and politics. But then why bother having an Anime Discussion section, if you're going to limit the General Section to anime related discussion?
Not happening.

Really don't see the problem. The moderators or creators of Hongfire have divided up the forum into sections so that you would not have to weed through items that you are not interested in.
Well I have to weed through them. It's my job.

[Para]

Really... no one realised that this is more of a community discussion thread...
*moved*