Ocean or Space?

[Littledgn]

This is a question that I've asked a lot of people, but don't remember the answer for. And is sorta inspired by the old X-Com game series.

Would you rather spend money exploring the great depths of the ocean or deep space/other planets?
And let's just say you have to choose one.

I rather go for the ocean, there's probably still lots of old artifacts and ocean life down there we don't know about...
It's probably easier and cheaper to rescue you if you get stuck down there somehow.

Go to this thread (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74616) for some really nice deep sea video ^^

[gugujiao]

Ocean. I'd rather be able to see strange living creatures than suddenly bumped into little green men. No, I'm really dead serious.

[Vathien]

Space, definitely. Afaik the universe is endless, the possibilities make me shiver when i think about it! imagine meeting a different race from another planet!

I mean, what we know and have recorded, we haven't had any extra terrestrials to visit us. Gah, great, now you got me thinking about all this stuff again. Bah! :D

[Jona87]

Ocean because its closer. There is so many history down there. So many creatures. You know, im one of those people who think gigiantic sea monsters exist.

[GiGaMoG]

Space. Becuz gravity is so low up there.

[stukasa]

Space, because of the endless possibilities.

However~ it would be fun exploring the oceans too. ^^

[blozzee]

If you love haruhi, you should vote for "Space" alien FTW http://www.hongfire.com/forum/images/smilies/cs/smile022.gif

[zh4rx0]

Hi ^^
For me, we should explore our ocean first. People should learn to live underwater first before venture into deep space & other planet. The rough & unpredictable environment in the deep ocean is a good training ground for us to mentally & technologically prepare before a journey into the deep space. There still a lot of things & mystery need to be learned & understand about our ocean.

[Sturmvogel Prime]

The Space.

[Ryu Hayabusa]

I go for ocean. We human don't even completely know about our very world, why not spending money exploring our own world first instead of going somewhere we have no idea about?

[unwingheart]

Either you die from too much pressure or having objects hurling around at thousands of miles an hour hit you.

Well, you can die of lack of air in either case. =\

So.... SP... OCEAN. =D

[ShadowRFox]

Well both options have the possibility of death by suffocation, which is one death I rather not experience. I'm also not a fan swimming, but I do like seafood....
Space is large with many planets and asteriod fields to explore. But hey the sea has it beautiful moments and can't pass up an oppotunity to get all the free seafood I could catch. It gotta be Ocean.

[gigosaga]

Exploring both the ocean and space come with their difficulties. The ocean is surprisingly challenging, maybe even more so than current/near future space exploration due to extreme pressures at the bottom of the deeper parts which basically prevent manned missions. Of course there are some planets with very high gravity too.

[DarkDweller]

I always wanted to know what is out there deeper in space and it looks so pretty so i go for space

[nony]

I go for space

If I'm correct the deepest part of the ocean is called Mariana Trench... Ok you have a wall down there so that is why I pick space ... no limits!

[HongFire]

How can we explore the space when we didn't even fully explore earth yet?

[keluonuosi]

Space is endless!

[maumastoks]

space
水　きらい。。。

[Rick]

Either you die from too much pressure or having objects hurling around at thousands of miles an hour hit you.

Well, you can die of lack of air in either case. =\
Hmm... both has their (dis)advantages whick make them kinda even so that's a tough choice for me.

Space does have more possibilities and it's the one being given the most priority at the moment, or so it seems to me. On the other hand, ocean seems to be a bit underrated so I think people should explore it some more.

But I wonder... humans are destroying this planet little by little. I don't have much hope that things will be much different for both ocean and space.

All in all, as zh4rx0 pointed out, it would be interesting if we tried ocean first but it's somewhat easier for me to picture ourselves going to space instead. Personally, I think I'd be fine with any of them but I'll go with space.

[Freedompopiah]

Space....future may change

[EchelonV]

This is hard to say. As usual sources say we know more about the Ocean than space, so it'd be interesting dwelve deeper into our own world.

And build Rapture!

[Choo]

sea sick or space sick? lol..

[bobuild01]

Although space exploration is something I am immensely interested in, right now I vote oceans. Most of those have never been explored so much more than a few feet below the waves. What is down there? Is it usable to us as either living space or alternative food supplies? What exotic minerals or medications might we harvest? What might we learn about past coastal civilizations? Cost wise I think the oceans are the best option and we do have technology allowing us almost "instant gratification" instead of waiting decades or longer just to possibily find something we can use or misuse.
Someday we might even geneticaly alter some of us to use the free oxygen in water and be able to handle the pressure, but we will never breath in a vacumn.

[cheesemidget]

For me, it is the ocean. I mean, the ocean is almost like space, you've got an almost infinite amount very different species that habitat this place. The human race has only explored a very small portion of it, and for all intents and purposes it is another planet. I was watching this show called deep blue or something like that, (from the same people who did this amazing series called "Planet Earth") and it explored the deep ocean... the parts where literally no sunlight gets too... one of the most amazing things i saw was this denser part of the ocean, it had what sort of resembled a land mass made up anenimes and other such plants (that didn't require sunlight of coarse) floating on top, and when they found a hole they tried to go down it, but the water was so dense that they just bounced off it.... it was like another ocean in the ocean!! 0.0

[ahriman19]

It's a hard question. In the deep ocean it is guaranteed that we will see creatures we dont normally see and many other living things. In space travelling is too long it could be boring and we might not find anything living. It is hard because I love both but I think that I would choose space because we never know what we could find next and there is a lot of beautiful scenery. Space might be more boring but I choose it because I think that I will get more thrill of adventure and exploration and art.

[sarn khan]

I'm going with space. If we search the ocean, there is a chance the we might awaken some ancient monster that could quite possibly destroy humanity(i.e. the Cuthulu, megadon etc). At least there's a possibility that we could haul as from whoever we piss off.

[dum200]

space because we need the reasources that is running out on earth and btw it is probably as hard to travel in deep sea and in space since there is huge pressure down there. The sea would be faster to travel to though ~

well i think if we explore space we may naver find another living being unless we can some how travel faster then light xD but who know maybe one day we would know how to artifically create worm holes~

[.tomi]

Ocean, it'd be cheaper.

[eXtrem]

Yes, but for exact that reason i'd like to explore space (by the way, ocean exporation is already POSSIBLE!^^)

Space is far more to explore and it has some kind of "we will never be able to explore more than our solar system in a lifetime"-touch^^

Up to Lightspeed and then... er... ask Einstein or alternative the Quantum Mecanics!

[psychopompos]

space!
sure it would cost a lot to get there, but the mineral wealth you could claim could balance that.

+ the earth is infested, these annoying things called humans, that just seem to get EVERYWHERE! & you cant shift um either.lol

[Shaidon]

Ocean.
Know yourself before know the others.

There are a lot of things on Earth to yet be discovered.
And we need to grow up first, before try to leave home. =)

[Knifes]

This is hard to say. As usual sources say we know more about the Ocean than space, so it'd be interesting dwelve deeper into our own world.

And build Rapture!

Really? I remember a prof telling me we know more about the surface of the moon than the oceans...

But in my mind, we should do stuff that profit human society... and in the long-run, space is the way to go after we kill off this little planet of ours :D:p
Besides, space is actually be more profitable in terms of science development and for our economy (mineral/element harvesting and stuff). What long-term turn investment would we get from exploring the oceans?

[Littledgn]

Space will probably naturally be more expensive than the Ocean and exploring the oceans just might give us new resources that we can't find at higher depths? I guess that's about it.

And who knows what sort of stuff have fallen down there, historically speaking.

[ChaozXIII]

spocean. i want to have both. i dont want to choose. and because it is my birthday today

[DoNotPause]

Ocean is much closer and affect us more directly. Space what's the use of looking at things that we'll take ages or never reach?

[SFOHollandMGO]

Wish I could vote both...Ocean should be concurred first...its close..we came from it...and we dont know only a little about it...we still discover random species and formations down there...

..but there is something about space that draws me to it...The idea of weightlessness fills me with delight...plus rocket ships and new planets...owwww cant wait...cant wait...

[Silverwolf_X]

Ocean, we can't even properly explore the abyss yet, in the mean time the moon has been overvisted lately. :P

Besides, why rush into space. We humans can't even get along on our own planet, why make ourselves the laughing stock of the universe by taking humanity's idiocy into it? :/

[jenl12343]

ocean because at the end of the day I can go back home and relax.

[Inuyasha254]

I'd like to know everything here before I go anywhere else.

[Tidus_Yuna]

Ocean becouse the are many species to see unlike sapce where there is a 0% of any life form

[Brave Magnus]

I dont know if I already answer this topic but I think its waaaaaay more interesting to explore space than ocean. Sure, in ocean you can find new species but in space you can find new cultures and hints of the universe's birth.

[Pandarus]

Ocean should come first, only because man is destroying so much of it with off-shore oil drilling and dumping of our trash, no one knows how much longer everything will be left. Already the Great coral reefs are dieing and who knows what else has already disappeared. Space can wait.

[Ninwiito]

Space is better to me.
more peaceful...
I have a big white spaceship with green windows and it's gonna get me high tonight.:cool:

[Jameela]

if we can Conquer the Ocean's , space would be easy to Explore .. Ocean's are much much Diffcult to Explore .. no man made Machine can take up the Huge Pressure of the Depths .. Dicovering the Creatures down there will Open new gates of Scince and Technology .. i vote for Oceans Big time ..

[matrice666]

ill go search space ... and than if i find an ocean on another planet ill search this ocean and move on to the next planet

[mewmeww]

Ocean, Under Water World.
Many Beautiful things we never seen from space

[SebastianvonKane]

Space since I've been an amateur astronomer since I was 10.

Besides, most SciFi stories set plot on the amazingly big space. It will take an eternity to explore space with space probes, as sea can be explored by robots. Just to imagine where Voyager 1 is venturing now takes my dreams to a new level.

[rosaame]

primero necesito conocer mi planeta para conocer mas alla

[LK89]

If you love haruhi, you should vote for "Space" alien FTW http://www.hongfire.com/forum/images/smilies/cs/smile022.gif

aye..
space.. endless area.. can FLOAT!!!..

[Renamon123]

Ocean for me first :D

[JR RAD]

Ocean, because if there's a intelligent life forms out in space would you want to be responsible ruining their civilization.

Think of it, human kind has great pretental to better ourselves but in the end we only use it only when it's deemed necessary but we're mostly corrupt as a species.

Now if there really a intelligent life forms out in space I think they'll know better to keep away, far....far away from us!

[Lictre]

In the near term, the ocean actually presents greater technological challenges than space, while offering wonderful opportunities to make space-influencing leaps in technology, techniques, and procedures, without some of the anticipated long-term health risks.

There's the expected loss of bone and muscle mass and density from being weightless for extended periods of time, which could lead to serious problems for initial space crews, in addition to 'cosmic rays', space object collision, anxiety and other emotional symptomology from long-term isolation... the expected list of medical risks to long-term spaceflight are already well in the process of being documented. Oceanic exploration would give a much better way to observe and learn to treat the emotional and mental disorders under more controllable conditions than the isolation of space, without throwing in all of the negative aspects of weightlessness at the same time. Not to mention the speculative risks of being exposed to non-terrestrial microbiology.

With the exception of radiation and far more extreme cold, space is comparatively SIMPLE!

No, Seriously! Except in the combustion chambers and pressurized fuel and service lines, the greatest normal differential in pressure between the occupied portions of a spacecraft and the vacuum outside is 14.7 pounds per square inch. Underwater, you can surpass that pressure differential ... I forget the actual number, but it's well within a hundred feet of the surface, and it only gets more intense the deeper you go. Dealing with these sorts of structural challenges will teach us how to build large, structurally sound items that can withstand great deals of force, as well as using new materials technology.

Insulation is critical in both environments, though underwater, the cold is FAR less unforgiving than in space... 4 degrees celcius, as compared to the 3 degrees KELVIN of the background temperature of space. Sounds like conceptual training wheels for effective insulation to me.

Sensor technology is actually more challenged underwater than in deep space, considering the abundance of living things, sedimentation and so on that can add to the other challenges of being underwater...

Propulsion technologies differ vastly, but things that we learn for underwater design will be used in the lower-density fluid dynamics of alien atmospheres, not to mention if the worlds we encounter are largely aquatic in nature.

I could probably go on for a number of more paragraphs, but I think that there should be a program developed for RATIONAL development of the sea floors, while at the same time getting NASA back on track for first developing an effective skywatch program for Near Earth Objects that could threaten us, in order to give us a long enough timeframe to react to those, and so on, and so on.

NEITHER should be given up, but I can see how they'd synergize so beautifully with each other that it would bring tears to your eyes.

:whoohoo:

[Kalimutan]

Space...this is the final frontier. Go boldly where no one has gone before.

[Satelight]

Some guy on TV (scientist maybe, forgot) claimed that we probably know more about our own solar system (the space in our solar system, NOT the planets, astroids, and moons of it) than the "space" of our own deep seas...

So I would try to find giant squids, leviathans, nessies, and other things in the deep...

but where ever you go.... space or deep ocean, your screwed if your vehicle explodes or something...

so... swallowed by an leviathan or abducted by borgs... choices choices..

[Fayt42]

i want to venture the ocean
probably because ive become to obsessed by saishuu shiken kujira and whales XD

[drakemetal]

human should solve all the mystery of the deep sea before they want to explore the infinity space .

[strumster]

i choose both if there was a option for both! cause theres alot of freaky things out there but also we haven't even finished discovring earth, we still can't prove things on our own planet. but venturing into space is interesting

[Cakebin]

I think i would go for the ocean, there are so many intesting creatures down there!

And the space is just plain boring, when u think of the time you will travel..... And the chance that u will find an organism is so small and when u find one its the question if it like us, humansand not an bacteria

[Aleniel]

I think I would rather see the ocean depths. I've seen a few videos of some deep ocean fish that got washed onto the land after a tsunami, awesome. :D

[strumster]

wow aleniel just made me think of something, what will happen if you were in the ocean and a tsunami came while you were in the water??? and you weren't that far off from shore and startin to decend. >.>
i guess theres a better chance surviving that then gettin imploded in space XD

[davidheat1088]

Space so we can find a way to make it a new home for peaple and for Gundams LOL

[gvbn]

primero necesito conocer mi planeta para conocer mas alla
primary necessity concern my planet
<something> concern us all

did i get it right

[Rick]

primary necessity concern my planet
<something> concern us all

did i get it right
Not quite. It's more like: "I need to know my planet first to know space more". At least that's the idea he's trying to express.

[mikoyyuy]

SPACE! NewTypes GUNDAM Colony
the earth will shatter anyways so build colonies now, they when earth started to disappear we can all go to the colonies and the MOONBASE and build MS = Mobile Suits and I'll pilot Wing Zero Custom

[ice_rain]

I Think....
the Ocean researchs is most important cause there are more answers about life, more than Space

[theoserenity]

I would prefer the Ocean cos I'm afraid of heights. And it's nearer to home.

[MysticalRose]

Ocean duh. Finish whatz in front of you 1st before going any further.

[Toutaku380san]

o_o *votes 4 space*lol I'd have 2 go with space why? to go to different planet of course!...if I ran into an alien eh.. hope they're friendly *alien puts out gun* oh well T__T

[Psycho Mantis]

I would want to explore the Ocean,a fact is that we know less about the Oceans than the Moon.

[xaero]

Space. inspired by all the sci-fi movies that I've watched :P

[kaoru12345]

i think it is more less cost to explore ocean

[Bubblemonkey]

If we could only do one, it would have to be space. Our planet is a single billiard ball on a galactic pool table...sooner or later, something is going to hit us. If we haven't expanded to other planets/moons before that happens, humans will be extinct.

If humans, as a race, are to survive, we have to go out into the deep dark.

[S&T Kawaii Love]

Space it's so wide and there is more to explore. And it's the only place for humanity to spread itself and evolve

[june86]

first the moon. next is mars, thats where its at! ya hear? yea!! mars b*****s!!

[darklord001]

space because lot of things still undiscovery

[eJudge]

I hate water, so i'm gonna say space :o

[ntz]

Both ocean and space have lots of undiscovered things... Both also will cost a lot...

But I prefer space... since I really want to know about how this universe works XD

[Gunner07]

I'd rather explore Space. Too many things can bite you in the ocean.

[siara666]

space!
We need to learn to travel in space, because earth is too small for people ;)

[Kogato]

to travel amongst the stars
to see the bigger picture
an endless dream of exploration and discovery
space

but theres only one problem
food, water, women
man will die without these things
but still Igotta go with space

[AZNanimeFREAK]

okay, Idk if you've noticed, but the sea leads the the middle earth. If we COULD explore the sea, then that means we could travel mid-earth. And inside mid-earth, Scientist predict that there is empty space inside, and that means empty space maybe a tiny portal of outer space, which means that we could travel out there :D Because outer space has octillion's of atoms, which means the earth was once created from it, and captured some of those atoms, and the atoms compressed to set a tiny portal to outer space :D Scientific thought. But, the tiny portals obviously can collapse, and atoms return to space, which means your screwed :]

[Dragora]

space! we alredy have a general idea of what's in the ocean ( wreckage and unevolved prehistoric fish) but space is the true great unknown.

[katakana22]

I'd go with Space cause there is so much more out there than our own oceans. Plus the thought of finding another intelligent race makes me all warm and gooey inside. :kakashi:

[Neofit]

I think it`s pretty silly to try to explore the infinite of space when there is so much we still don`t know about our planet.
So I guess...ocean.

[Immer]

I would want to explore space. Not so much for the discovery of life outside of Earth (although that would be nice) but becase there is so much more out there than what is in hidden in our oceans. That's just me I guess..

[sakuraarin]

Hi (-/l\-)

[Merodia]

ocean currently contaminated with unpleasant things, so I rather be in space >.<

[schniblor]

Space is Awesome

[raynear]

Ocean would be my first choice since space will take quite a while to be explored. Who knows, our aliens might actually comes from the ocean....

[mintychan]

okay, Idk if you've noticed, but the sea leads the the middle earth. If we COULD explore the sea, then that means we could travel mid-earth. And inside mid-earth, Scientist predict that there is empty space inside, and that means empty space maybe a tiny portal of outer space, which means that we could travel out there :D Because outer space has octillion's of atoms, which means the earth was once created from it, and captured some of those atoms, and the atoms compressed to set a tiny portal to outer space :D Scientific thought. But, the tiny portals obviously can collapse, and atoms return to space, which means your screwed :]

I think that "empty space" is literally "Hell". I believe in God, Spirits, Ghosts, Aliens, Espers and Unknown Creatures. So if anyone fall into these categories, come and see me. (i think i know these line... >< just can't remember well..)

I choose space... It has more unknown material than the ones on earth (i think so...)

[Deranged Skillet]

okay, Idk if you've noticed, but the sea leads the the middle earth. If we COULD explore the sea, then that means we could travel mid-earth. And inside mid-earth, Scientist predict that there is empty space inside, and that means empty space maybe a tiny portal of outer space, which means that we could travel out there :D Because outer space has octillion's of atoms, which means the earth was once created from it, and captured some of those atoms, and the atoms compressed to set a tiny portal to outer space :D Scientific thought. But, the tiny portals obviously can collapse, and atoms return to space, which means your screwed :]
..This sounds like an acid trip you won't soon forget.
Sounds like two for the price of one!
Ocean it is.

[hemuhemu]

Both are great. You gota feel it to know it.

[ArchWing]

Of course, Space.

Ocean is like digging deeper to the Earth's core without so much in breaking the ground, but rather diving into the water and finding out what lies beneath the ground. Could it be? Sea-monsters living under the planet? Or perhaps, a history of another long buried civilization? Or just experiencing the depth of the planet actually is.. wow. Big whoop.

Space, on the other hand, looks as if it is just one endless space filled with stars and planets. But wait, what if there is more to that? One could use imagination to answer that. But it could be, somehow, that what lies ahead in the future could explain such strange phenomenon. Who knows? The possibilites are endless..

[Akiha Tohno Vermillion]

ocean!im afraid of the outer space i dont know

[stevetsocko]

Space. Im an alien

[deadlywarrior]

I think both would be fun but i'll go for ocean.

[DiamondDust]

I go for ocean. We human don't even completely know about our very world, why not spending money exploring our own world first instead of going somewhere we have no idea about?

I agreed with ryu... there so many wonders in deep ocean that we don't know