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BBsin
10-20-2007, 12:35 AM
It's apparently true, according to VGchartz.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&align=1

The PS3 worldwide sales are around the same neighborhood as Xbox360, if both launch times are aligned. The Wii, however, is just destroying the competition. Keep in mind that Sony was forced to cut the prices and go on fire sales multiple times whereas Microsoft did not have to at all given the same time span (not counting Japan), but then again the PS3 did quite good for an overly expensive $600 system with a small library of good games and awful PR disasters. The big question is if Sony can get it's "gears of war caliber" system seller title that helped boost xbox360 sales drastically in time before it gets left in dust. We might not see PS3 sales truly accelerate until Spring of 2008 as they face many challenges this holiday season .

Graywolf
10-20-2007, 06:08 AM
I heard that Sony was making another version of PS3 that was coming out early November that retails for 400USD. 40g hard drive and zero backwards compatibility. I haven't seen any official news for it, going on my brothers word, but then again I haven't looked either.

That's going to boost some sales, I would buy one. though I'd still rather find it used for under 350USD. :P

EDIT: Just saw the thread in the Sony section. :P

solblade007
10-20-2007, 03:38 PM
20gb is $380 at Gamestop now, it doesn't have Wi-fi or the memory card reader, but it does have full BC. Which makes it a lot better then the 40gb one IMO.

Drakron
10-20-2007, 03:44 PM
It's apparently true, according to VGchartz.
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Yes, lets trust a site that makes up sales numbers ...

In order for the PS3 to be on equal to the XBox 360 they would have to be selling the same as the XBox 360 and they have not (at least not consistent), only place were they have been performing better is Japan but I serious doubt those sales are enough to fill in the gaps of the rest of world.

sum1
10-20-2007, 03:49 PM
I think that the chart shows that the ps3 is walking the same path as the x360.

Drakron
10-20-2007, 03:57 PM
He makes numbers up, the only way to get the numbers are either from Sony and Microsoft (that naturally track inventory) or get it from the retailers (who do not disclose those numbers).

I give you this:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/08/25/nintendo-wii-vs-sony-playstation-3-vs-microsoft-xbox-360-q2-2007/

Look, the XBox 360 curve is higher that the PS3 curve (not by much) and those were Q2 sales figure from "the three" thenselves.

What is going to be his excuse? oh the 10% error margin.

Sudokian
10-20-2007, 06:44 PM
PS3 is still selling like shit.

BBsin
10-20-2007, 07:15 PM
Yes, lets trust a site that makes up sales numbers ...

So we should all trust UK:resistance and Kotaku/Simple 2000 (which is used on your link on the bottom) instead?



In order for the PS3 to be on equal to the XBox 360 they would have to be selling the same as the XBox 360 and they have not (at least not consistent), only place were they have been performing better is Japan but I serious doubt those sales are enough to fill in the gaps of the rest of world.
Are you looking at launch times aligned (as my first post suggested) or are you talking about current install base? B/c in terms of both consoles' first 3 quarters of sales on a worldwide basis, they are roughly the same... which is nothing to boast.


He makes numbers up, the only way to get the numbers are either from Sony and Microsoft (that naturally track inventory) or get it from the retailers (who do not disclose those numbers).

I give you this:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/08/25/nintendo-wii-vs-sony-playstation-3-vs-microsoft-xbox-360-q2-2007/

Look, the XBox 360 curve is higher that the PS3 curve (not by much) and those were Q2 sales figure from "the three" thenselves.

What is going to be his excuse? oh the 10% error margin.

...what graph is the one that you are talking about??? which one has the xbox360 that is described as "not by much" higher than the PS3? All line graphs on the site has the Xbox360 (unaligned install base) MUCH higher than the PS3..... we are talking about what the sales are, given the same rate of time. Not to mention, i know for a fact that Sony has not sold over 6 million PS3's yet. Probably b/c those charts you posted only showed the "infamous" shipped PS3 numbers that Sony loves reporting, instead of the actual sold PS3 VGchartz reports based off of actual retailers (that sony is AFRAID to show). Also before you go on talking about making up numbers from VGchartz, you should read the statements on the very graphs that you show.
"In millions. December numbers are actual reported units sold. Microsoft and Sony are units shipped, not necessarily sold.
*March numbers are estimated
**June numbers are manufacturer goals.
*Estimated Q3 units sold -RoughlyDrafted.com"

Go ahead, explain yourself.

Sudokian
10-20-2007, 09:56 PM
So we should all trust UK:resistance and Kotaku/Simple 2000 (which is used on your link on the bottom) instead?


Are you looking at launch times aligned (as my first post suggested) or are you talking about current install base? B/c in terms of both consoles' first 3 quarters of sales on a worldwide basis, they are roughly the same... which is nothing to boast.


...what graph is the one that you are talking about??? which one has the xbox360 that is described as "not by much" higher than the PS3? All line graphs on the site has the Xbox360 (unaligned install base) MUCH higher than the PS3..... we are talking about what the sales are, given the same rate of time. Not to mention, i know for a fact that Sony has not sold over 6 million PS3's yet. Probably b/c those charts you posted only showed the "infamous" shipped PS3 numbers that Sony loves reporting, instead of the actual sold PS3 VGchartz reports based off of actual retailers (that sony is AFRAID to show). Also before you go on talking about making up numbers from VGchartz, you should read the statements on the very graphs that you show.
"In millions. December numbers are actual reported units sold. Microsoft and Sony are units shipped, not necessarily sold.
*March numbers are estimated
**June numbers are manufacturer goals.
*Estimated Q3 units sold -RoughlyDrafted.com"

Go ahead, explain yourself.

WELL IF YA ALIGN THE SALES HURF A DURF AFFJH the 360 still has sold more. Who cares...

zaku137
10-20-2007, 10:57 PM
Xbox and ps3 price on par eh...?

Nows the time to get oneXD

i think i'm gona go for the ps3 instead of xbox because xbox controls are too chunky and are not my style.....

die xbox die

BBsin
10-21-2007, 12:46 AM
WELL IF YA ALIGN THE SALES HURF A DURF AFFJH the 360 still has sold more. Who cares...

...wtf. If you are getting irritated by my post or just don't care, then just don't give your useless opinions. You are clearly too stupid to figure out what this means so just do your self a favor and stay away from your keyboard before you make your fanboy self look anymore retarded. DURF!


Xbox and ps3 price on par eh...?

No, the prices are not on par. The Xbox360 is still the cheaper system with the new arcade xbox360 at around 275USD, premium at 350 and elite at 450. Granted the hardcore gamer would give a smaller fuck about the arcade console, still the premium xbox360 SKU is 50 bux cheaper than the 40gb no PS2 BC PS3.

Bubblemonkey
10-21-2007, 10:17 AM
While it's pretty impressive from a sheer number to number standpoint, we still have to look at what was going on during the time period.

MS released their console first, so there were plenty of consumers who took the "wait and see" attitude. When graphed out, you wouldn't expect it to generate a large number of sales initially because people were still unsure of what the other guys were going to bring to the table. Not everyone wants to be an early adopter in a console war because of the risk of wasting your investment if the competition takes off. The PS3, on the other hand, was last out of the gate. Consumers could finally look at each of the consoles side by side before making their decision. All the players in the war showed their hands (as far as hardware is concerned) and consumers could now make a relatively informed decision. You'd think this would work in the PS3's favor since people could make a decision right out of the gate, but the price point and the reliance on untried technology hurt it more than they'd like to admit. With all the players on the field and the goodwill Sony had carrying over from the PS2, on the fence consumers should have been leaning towards giving the PS3 a shot. Thanks to the media blunders initiated by Kuturagi and his crew that alienated the very consumers they should have been wooing, this wasn't the case. Given Sony's advantages at release, they should have moved more units much faster than the 360...that just didn't happen. Sony is right to rethink their strategy.

kingx11
10-21-2007, 11:01 AM
maby the white ps3 will make US white gaming sites love it more :P

and that's why the white wii and the white 360 were a hit

Kerii
10-21-2007, 11:12 AM
if both launch times are aligned
Because the video game market is completely isolated into three separate markets: Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. And their install base, software library, etc have no effect on eachother.

Most worthless feature VGCharts ever implemented.


They should implement something like putting points on the lines to indicate price drops and major software releases, now that would be useful.

Bubblemonkey
10-21-2007, 12:37 PM
They should implement something like putting points on the lines to indicate price drops and major software releases, now that would be useful.
Yeah, that feature would go a long way to pointing out how much of an impact these drops/releases has on sales. I wonder if they take suggestions...

Kerii
10-22-2007, 06:58 AM
Also nice would be if they indicated supply issues on the line.

The OP chart doesn't even take into account that one console was sold out everywhere for several months after launch whereas the other started collecting dust on shelves less than two weeks after it launched.

Not to mention a certain other console that's been supply constrained ever since it launched yet is creaming the other two in unit sales.

Kitee
10-22-2007, 09:58 AM
If PS3 has more games that kill something every 30 seconds, then they can probably sell more in North America.

Kerii
10-22-2007, 10:45 AM
If PS3 has more games that kill something every 30 seconds, then they can probably sell more in North America.PS3 has plenty.

360 and PS3 share almost the same library of shooters sans a few exclusives here and there. The only issues being the PS3 versions running at poor framerates or reduced visuals, being released several months later, and weak online/friends system, though some people put up with it since it's free.

The graphical gap is nowhere near the difference we saw last generation between the PS2 and Xbox, but that was a different situation.

And as far as shooters affecting console sales, I'd say it's actually only with specific games like Halo or Half-Life and not shooters in general.
Try naming a big selling shooter other than those two that you remember last generation. There weren't many.

The real console movers here sadly, are probably sports games. Like the whole Madden 08 60fps vs 30fps drama.
What they lack in release day punch, they make up for in steady sales.

Kitee
10-22-2007, 05:45 PM
You have a point there.
Call of Duty 3 for example was done really bad on the PS3 version even though it was released after the x360 version.

Shinma3x
10-23-2007, 06:05 AM
With the new PS3 launched in the UK outselling 360....It be interesting to see how much it will effect this chart or so we have here.

Psycho Mantis
10-26-2007, 06:01 PM
PS3 is still selling like shit.

Indeed,many expected the PS3 to sell more than the X-Box 360..even with the Wii in the lead.It just goes to show how much a dissapointment the PS3 has been so far.:O

Sarutan
10-27-2007, 10:49 AM
http://xs120.xs.to/xs120/07436/chartupdatd2.jpg


ahem, with (40GB launch & -100$ 80GB) strategy, I see sony outselling xbox360 easily.

welcome back Sarutan..!

BBsin
10-27-2007, 01:11 PM
Well, if anyone noticed. Sony did manage to change the existing PS3 price to the launch PS2 price.....