Final Fantasy XIII No longer PS3 Exclusive! Now on Xbox 360

[Hideki-Motosuwa]

Its just been announced as of 5 minutes ago and shown at the Microsoft Press Conference at E3. I say Sony has just took a major blow with this. Oh well, what is everyone's opinion about this. To be honest, I'm excited. No need for me to buy a PS3 now. Let the rants begin!

[Tigerofthewind]

Holy shit, I just saw the trailer. First I thought "okay trailer for infinite undiscovery" until I remembered they already showed it. Then when I saw the familiar soldiers I knew.

Now, where's my VERSUS??

[kingx11]

wada's appearence on MS stage was'nt for nothing , man that guy is a heavywight on the market

[Atachi]

i was ROFLing in anticipation of the fanboy-killing over at kotaku when they finally make a post about it ^^

stil waiting and refreshing the site ^^

[omegafinal]

Yea, know I think I'm one of the few that thought that MGS4 would on the X360 before FF13.

Oh well, let's cue up one rant I'm very fond of, "LOL, X360 will need seven discs!" or the like.

[Hideki-Motosuwa]

And thus, the chaos begins on Kotaku. LMAO! Oh well, still nice.

[Sayaka]

Yea, know I think I'm one of the few that thought that MGS4 would on the X360 before FF13.

Oh well, let's cue up one rant I'm very fond of, "LOL, X360 will need seven discs!" or the like.

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Lots of new surprises lately.

[johnblade]

EPIC!!!

Sony fanboy eat your heart out from this!!!

Well, this is something I never expect. I am still wonder how it will do well in Japan (where Xbox360 isn't doing that well there in sell).

[kingx11]

^^^
if you were the OP the news will be truly epic lol

[Kerii]

Snore.

The real news is here:
http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/07/14/some-of-the-features-in-the-new-xbox-experience-8-person-chat-vga-plus-more.aspx

Primarily:
LIVE Party system (8 person chat)
Play from hard drive (get to pick and choose which games to fully load onto HDD)
Access Xbox LIVE Marketplace on the Web (about damn time)
Netflix (no more hooking up a laptop to the damn TV)

[kingx11]

^^^
finally installing , but only from the disc not installing whatever like demos and other OS !!!


still does'nt beat wada triumph lol

[Jona87]

hahaahahhaa what a day!!!! XD

The Day the Internet Stopped! Final Fantasy on the Xbox LMAO!

[Haloman]

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Lots of new surprises lately.

I lol'd hard, PS3 fanboys, Square lols at you :D

[Hideki-Motosuwa]

Here's a my sister post from Anime Toshokan:

:: Microsoft Press Conference - July 14, 2008 ::

Okay, to be honest, Microsoft had a rather lackluster show if you ask me but they did however point out some major changes to the Xbox 360 along with a number of exclusive for the system also. Here is a rundown of all that I could catch during the livecast at Gamespot:

- This fall, the Xbox 360 system interphase will take a dramatic change and will introduce their new avatar system. Basically, this is blow at Nintendo's Mii system. The avatars will be used for community chat and games. Also included in this update will the arrival of Xbox Primetime where you can participate in gameshows for real prizes.

- NBC Universal & Netflix join Microsoft to give out tons of movies & TV programming thru Xbox Live Marketplace.

- New exclusives to the Xbox Live Arcade will include Uno Rush, Galaga Legions (The true sequel to the classic Galaga), South Park, and Geometry Wars 2 will be heading our way this fall and holiday season.

- Gears of War 2 is slated for release on November 7, 2008

- Fable II is slated for a October Release while Resident Evil 5 is slated for a 2009 release

- Fallout 3 is to get downloadable exclusive content along with the PC version (Sorry PS3)

- Some of the Xbox 360 exclusives include:

- Rock Band 2
- Guitar Hero: World Tour
- Scene it: (can't remember the subtitle of this game nor did I care)
- At The Movies (Boy, this is getting even cornier)
- Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
- The Last Reminant (Square-Enix in the house!!)
- The new Banjo Kazooie which will also include the original game from the N64 as well
- PORTAL: Still Alive is slated for release on exclusively (?) for the Xbox 360 (The cake is a lie.....it seems)


There were a bunch others but I can't remember them all.

- The tracklist for Rock Band 2 was released with bands such as AC/DC, old chestnuts like Fleetwood Mac and Steely Dan, and a track from the long, long awaited Guns N' Roses album Chinese Democracy, called "Shackler's Revenge." Just about 100 songs are slated for the release.

Microsoft main focus this year seemed to be more on the casual gamer market than anything with more photage of casual games being shown than anything. I was really impressed by them nor the changes to the dashboard to Xbox Live. Gawd I hate this.....where are the fighting games!?

Before we end this till tomorrow with the Nintendo Press Conference, one more announcement was made and it was by Yoiichi Wada from Square-Enix:

- Yoiichi Wada drops the bomb on everyone as he annouced that Final Fantasy XIII will also be ported over to the Xbox 360!)

This concludes the Microsoft Press Conference segment of this post. Tune in tomorrow as I will post as much as I can get from the Nintendo Press Conference from E3.

[johnblade]

If you go to other game site forum (Gamefaqs or NeoGaf) you see how epic this news is at Sony. Man, I can sense a lot of ps3 fan boys bitching right now or try to make excuse like to pretend the news isn't too bad and that the 360 version will have the worst quality of the game.

[solblade007]

LOL

GG Microsoft GG

[johnblade]

Fun times ahead.

God that's such an understatement :D

[Jona87]

LOL every sony fanboy in every gaming forum right now is yelling the same excuses.

It will be an inferior version! the quality will suck! it will use like 50 DVDS!! LOL!!!!111 The Ps3 version still the bestest bestest one! HA!! *goes cries in a dark corner*

What a blow. First DMC4 and now FF13. Next is obviously MGS4 =P

[johnblade]

on PS3 forum


Showed final fantasy 13 to xbox conference first.... unbelievable. I am about to throw up


hmmmm I am done with square they are traders


PS3 is doomed. Good game Sony. Good game....damn why do u allow this to happen?


WTF FFXIII on XBOX 360, S-E is now dead to me. Sony ****ed up big time letting FFXIII go and WTF is with the timed-exclusive S-E


OMG they sold out ps3 owners


Can't speak.... Don't know what to say


One image can explain how epic this news is.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/ShinotoTenken/1215947475893.jpg:D

[Maverick007]

One image can explain how epic this news is.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/ShinotoTenken/1215947475893.jpg:D

Muhahaha, that pic is hilarious!!

[Sayaka]

Muhahaha, that pic is hilarious!!

Seconded. D:

[Jona87]

ROFLMAO!!! aaahahaahhaha that pic is truly epic!!! i think im going to borrow it XD

[Kouji]

One image can explain how epic this news is.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/ShinotoTenken/1215947475893.jpg:D

LOL too good ^^

I wonder what will the game be like for the 360 now ^^

[kingx11]

One image can explain how epic this news is.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/ShinotoTenken/1215947475893.jpg:D


lol amazing

[inxaract]

- this news is my best funniest and hilarious movie that i am watching now . (surfing in game forums and reading posts)

[whiteninja]

I'm actually glad (got both systems) cause my 360 is modded
Now I dont really have anything to look forward to on ps3 though

[gimmeatest]

Here's a my sister post from Anime Toshokan:

:: Microsoft Press Conference - July 14, 2008 ::

- Some of the Xbox 360 exclusives include:

- The Last Reminant (Square-Enix in the house!!)


Just FYI, that game is also coming to the PC (announced on IGN). Pretty excited since I only have a Wii, but this still means I'll get to play a nice SE RPG. Now if only they'd port some of the other 360 RPGs to PC...

Oh and on topic, I was quite amused when they announced FFXIII for the 360. Poor Sony...

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Snore.

The real news is here:
http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/07/14/some-of-the-features-in-the-new-xbox-experience-8-person-chat-vga-plus-more.aspx

Primarily:
LIVE Party system (8 person chat)
Play from hard drive (get to pick and choose which games to fully load onto HDD)
Access Xbox LIVE Marketplace on the Web (about damn time)
Netflix (no more hooking up a laptop to the damn TV)
Actually, official news from microsoft:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/events/e32008/articles/0714-gamesall.htm

unfortunately for ps3, they are losing THE biggest addition to their exclusive line of games. But, now they can just hang on to Versus, exclusive to the ps3 only. But fortunately the versus game has been stale and unheard about since 2007. The progress of the game is unknown and will be unknown for the next month or so. now all they can do is hope that Versus saves their ass.

MGS4 is the only real reason they are hanging on. Now they even lost SILENT HILL , their "born on playstation" game. But I will still get a ps3 due to the fact I want to play versus, mgs4 and maybe some other future games.

But there is a chance versus will be put onto ps3, althought slim, chances are it could happen.

[Wh1t3y3t1]

good to see its diverse but i recon alot of peole will stick with the ps3 version simply because of sony fanboys/girls who will fight it to the dire end

[johnblade]

Dear Sony fans,

Now you know how it feels.

Signed,
Nintendo fans

[solblade007]

I still find the xbox crashing onto planet earth pic funnier >_>

[johnblade]

More ps3 fanboy crying


Thanks for selling out your fanbase S-E. I poured probably thousands of dollars into your lap with your offerings on Sony platforms. Your support of the PS3 was instrumental in my purchasing one. Now you're murdering your flagship series for a quick cash grab. Why? Because you have no faith in your fans. Konami turned out all right with Metal Gear, what makes you think we'd be any different for motherfucking Final Fantasy? I and millions of others have rushed out to buy your major releases precisely at release time and time again. I'm certain many of us were still poised to do so, and still are.

I'm not happy that you drank the kool-aid. You had no reason to get into bed with Microsoft and take it this far.

LOL:D

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

the ironic thing is that they said that no final fantasy was heading the 360's way. Now XIII is heading towards 360.

[GiGaMoG]

Now we just need MGS4 to be ported to Xbox and there goes the chain reaction.

[Haloman]

Now we just need MGS4 to be ported to Xbox and there goes the chain reaction.

I dont think so, perhaps the only, but minimal chance of port would be for PC, never 360...

Although, I would like to see how Old Snake would behave in the Gates Universe :neko:

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

it's quite funny how Sony thinks that this is only a small dilema, but if you look at it, ps2 won the good games for it's time, but xbox won the best visuals available. Now it's flipping around.

they are hanging by a thread though, and I am not suprised that they are losing games now. Good ol' blue ray they had to use. Costs bundles for production on their console.

"Who else thinks this is funny they actaully think sony didnt know final fantasy 13 wouldnt be multiplatform before they announced it must be retarded they knew it and will fire back tommorow. I cant wait to see 360 fans face when sony announces something big tommorow 360 fans love to think they won before seeing the other persons cards." - quote from gamespot ps3 fanboy.

That is funny, we have seen their cards before, and look what happened! they lost DMC4 along with all types of other exclusives! then they released sorry excuses for games.

You have seen all our cards, and in my eyes, it's a straight royal flush. now all we have to do is sit back and laugh at the sony ps3. Where their biggest update yet "allows you to listen to music while playing games"

haha! We xbox 360 fans have had it long before you, if not from the start!

[cyress8]

One image can explain how epic this news is.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/ShinotoTenken/1215947475893.jpg:D
That has become my new desktop pic XD ooo and it gets even more epic on 2 monitors =O

[trogdor0071]

If LBP, Versus, or KZ2 gets ported to 360, I'm selling my PS3. Also, about people saying "How many discs will it be?" Who the hell cares? I want the full game with the same graphics, I don't give half a shit if it's 20 discs. I played Lost Oddessy, and changing the discs only takes 10-15 seconds.

[cyress8]

If LBP, Versus, or KZ2 gets ported to 360, I'm selling my PS3. Also, about people saying "How many discs will it be?" Who the hell cares? I want the full game with the same graphics, I don't give half a shit if it's 20 discs. I played Lost Oddessy, and changing the discs only takes 10-15 seconds.
Heh, they are bringing back the old school swap discs from the ps1 era!!! And I agree with you, it takes only a few seconds to swap. You have to be one lazy SOB to have something like that bother you since you only need to swap every 10-15 hours and also:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/ShinotoTenken/1215947475893.jpg
EPIC WEEK! First Jack Thompson and now this!! Now I must buy a 360 =P

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

If LBP, Versus, or KZ2 gets ported to 360, I'm selling my PS3. Also, about people saying "How many discs will it be?" Who the hell cares? I want the full game with the same graphics, I don't give half a shit if it's 20 discs. I played Lost Oddessy, and changing the discs only takes 10-15 seconds.
kz2 will stay exclusive in my eyes, versus is just a matter of time. They still have no update on how the gameplay is looking and only a nearly year old trailer to hang onto.

I may still buy a ps3 just for mgs4. and besides even though I hate to say it, I've been wanting one for along time. But after today my views have changed.

[nick64]

The news is a big blow for Sony, and really emphasises on what the point is about the PS3.. tbh, its losing exclusives left and right, 360 has more exclusives (even on a genre that Sony shud technically 'dominate', JRPG) and the 360 is a much more better console...

Sony has lost the plot, they could have paid for timed exclusive for something but letting this loose is a big FU to everybody who bought a PS3 for the two years in which SE has promised PS3 only exclusive crap.

[Jona87]

MGS4 and Versus are next. Just a matter of time. At this time i only see KillZone2 (wich i dont know whats so amazing, Gameplay looks just as boring as the first one), Gran Turismo, God of War and....Home? ...as exclusives.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

The news is a big blow for Sony, and really emphasises on what the point is about the PS3.. tbh, its losing exclusives left and right, 360 has more exclusives (even on a genre that Sony shud technically 'dominate', JRPG) and the 360 is a much more better console...

Sony has lost the plot, they could have paid for timed exclusive for something but letting this loose is a big FU to everybody who bought a PS3 for the two years in which SE has promised PS3 only exclusive crap.
yeah this is why I laugh at sony. Sony got all hyped up. Now they are paying the consequences and have lost their ace. Now all they can hope for is their only ace left doesn't leave their hand.

[SebastianvonKane]

This story just gest interesting.
What intrigues me is the way FFXIII was changing the gameplay of its very own series. We need to see what's the result of the game first, altough I'm a 360 fanboy (bought my 360 primarily because of Idolmaster) I'd like to see a good coming for 360.

Anyway, I'm stil as impressed as you guys!!!

I watched Kotaku, but also VGChartz. Some people are outraged!
TEHEHE!

[Drakron]

what is wrong with Nintendo fans since Nintendo is creating its own fanbase mostly from people who don't play video games before regularly unlike Microsoft and Sony fighting to steal each others' hardcore fanbase by exclusive titles (now exclusive is dead, to all world people ! you can unite)

anyway , this is just a game .

Maybe you need a history lesson.

Final Fantasy started on the NES, when the PlayStation launched there was a exodus for 3rd party publishers from Nintendo to Sony (the main reason was CDs were cheaper that the cartridges).

But that does not stop there, because of that Square and Nintendo to cut ties for a long time with then only resuming relations since Nintendo pretty much owns the very profitable handheld console market.

In short, for Nintendo fans this is a delicious turn of events since Sonytards now experience what happened to Nintendo fans with the PlayStation.

And no, do not give me that crap about "Nintendo is creating its own fanbase mostly from people who don't play video games" that is pure bullshit and bullshit usually spewed from Xboxers and Sonytards that are butthurt from being in 2nd and 3rd place, Nintendo existed before the Wii.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Maybe you need a history lesson.

Final Fantasy started on the NES, when the PlayStation launched there was a exodus for 3rd party publishers from Nintendo to Sony (the main reason was CDs were cheaper that the cartridges).

But that does not stop there, because of that Square and Nintendo to cut ties for a long time with then only resuming relations since Nintendo pretty much owns the very profitable handheld console market.

In short, for Nintendo fans this is a delicious turn of events since Sonytards now experience what happened to Nintendo fans with the PlayStation.

And no, do not give me that crap about "Nintendo is creating its own fanbase mostly from people who don't play video games" that is pure bullshit and bullshit usually spewed from Xboxers and Sonytards that are butthurt from being in 2nd and 3rd place, Nintendo existed before the Wii.
this is true...

sony, feel the pain!!!

[Huway]

Ok, now i'll just wait for the ps3 tales of announcement, if it doesn't happen, i'll sell my ps3 and buy a new bike.

[johnblade]

Only way ps3 will comeback this is FF7 remake but that might not as strong as people might think. Either way, they have another FF game under them. Other than that, we will have to see tomorrow E3.

[inxaract]

Ok, now i'll just wait for the ps3 tales of announcement, if it doesn't happen, i'll sell my ps3 and buy a new bike.

why bike ?

[Tigerofthewind]

I wanna see VERSUS for 360. That game looks alot more interesting to me than XIII does. Here's hoping that MS are gangster enough to toss more money Square's way for another non-exclusive.

Sony's going to have to pull out a Pheonix Down>Ultima combo to counter this critical hit. Maybe something big like a Chrono Trigger sequel.

[toxicity]

I got really happy when I heard about this. However almost everywhere I look there's more people complaining that it's not exclusive anymore rather than appreciate that a bigger audience will be able to enjoy the game.

Maybe Sony will have a go and try to get some Microsoft exclusives in return :P Mass effect or Gears maybe

[Psycho Le Cemu]

Thank god it will be a port from PS3, and not vise versa.

[Shinma3x]

Not like this will have an impact for the Jap players like me who will get it first on the PS3 :D
But yea, sucks for Sony fans in America who got a PS3 for this game.

[toxicity]

Agreed it's quite a big loss for Sony. But if this really is such bad news as many seem to believe, then Sony would have much bigger problems. I mean many of the ney-sayers make it sound like the PS3 will rise and fall with FF.

[firzenex]

Well, what a turn of events. Microsoft does seem in control of everything at the moment. Their stranglehold on the gaming community continues, while everything else proves otherwise....

[Bubblemonkey]

Maybe Sony will have a go and try to get some Microsoft exclusives in return :P Mass effect or Gears maybe
These aren't all that likely to happen since MS publishes both titles. Depending on what deals MS worked with Bioware and Epic when drafting their publishing deals, you aren't likely to see this happen any time soon.


Agreed it's quite a big loss for Sony. But if this really is such bad news as many seem to believe, then Sony would have much bigger problems. I mean many of the ney-sayers make it sound like the PS3 will rise and fall with FF.Yeah, it's a bit much to start the doom and gloom talk for the PS3 because of the announcement, but FF WAS one of the titles that Sony fanboys always liked to lord over fans of other consoles, so with this announcement, the other fans get to watch the Sony fanboys eat a bit of crow...almost always funny.

[ForteAnly]

We all knew that was going to happen sooner or later. I guess Sony doesn't really have anything exclusive anymore besides MGS4.

[Bubblemonkey]

We all knew that was going to happen sooner or later. I guess Sony doesn't really have anything exclusive anymore besides MGS4.Well they do have the insomniac games (that studio is practically a sony subsidiary) and the Sony developed titles like God of War and the like. They do have a few decent exclusives, though I'm not ready to call any of them console sellers at the moment.

[firzenex]

Well they do have the insomniac games (that studio is practically a sony subsidiary) and the Sony developed titles like God of War and the like. They do have a few decent exclusives, though I'm not ready to call any of them console sellers at the moment.

Thats like saying "HD-DVD still had Warner Bros"...

How else is MS going to stay in the game with their dated DVD discs, unless they start taking shares of PS3 exclusives

[JTD]

During the PS1 and PS2 era, I was a fan of Sony.
They made a good product at a reasonable price that pleased consumers.
Then they got cocky and PS3 came out at a ridiculous price that were missing important parts to a console.
The only thing that was keeping them alive for so long was the exclusives that they had.
Now since they lost even FFXIII, is just a kick them when they are down.
They got what they deserved, greedy bastards.
Glad I waited until Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy to come out before I bought a PS3.
I just hope Square-Enix's future releases will also come to X-Box 360.

[Kanatana]

The biggest blow was the announcement of SO4 being XBOX360 exclusive imo.

[Ensignzeroshin]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36222.html

Sony is so fucking stupid. Period.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/...asy-xiii-faqs/

On the bright side, a lot of people can now play FFXIII

[Maverick007]

The biggest blow was the announcement of SO4 being XBOX360 exclusive imo.

Really?? I didn't hear that at all in Microsoft's keynote. The only ones that were "exclusives" is "The Last Remnant" (Timed) and "Infinite Undiscovery"... But they never stated that "Star Ocean: The Last Hope" was an exclusive...just that it was coming in Spring 2009.

EDIT ADDED: If they were to say that it was an "exclusive" then Microsoft would've made sure that they'll put a label saying "exclusive" and have Wada say "exclusive" so many times that it will be the only word that the fanboys would know.

[akaanime]

Yeah, just heard about it, since I own all the system I didn't really care. But as for the fan of PS3, I guess they are pretty piss and why did they decided to release it on the xbox360 anyway?

And yeah, I like the fact that more people will be able to enjoy FFXIII, showing its pure brilliance, though hope the story is better like 8-9 ish ending, than 12. Didn't really like 12 storyline...

[Maverick007]

Already stated....
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87083

MODS PLEASE MERGE THREADS!!

[denirth]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/06/square-enix-no.html

It was stated last month that for now, there are "no plans" for a PS3 version of Star Ocean 4.

It's amazing how far a few Playstation fans take this news :)

[shadowkat]

Shouldn't this and the thread in the Sony section be merged and moved to the main games section now that it's multiplatform?

[Tigerofthewind]

Maybe this will be a BIG BOMBSHELL Sony is going to announce. STAR OCEAN 4 for PS3.

[Drakron]

Thats like saying "HD-DVD still had Warner Bros"...

How else is MS going to stay in the game with their dated DVD discs, unless they start taking shares of PS3 exclusives


They do not have to do that, Blu-Ray in the PS3 is only good for one thing ... movies, everyone with half a brain already caught to that when mandatory installs became the norm.

Plans for the next update is allowing installing the games in the HDD, that will make then in par with the PS3.

Also they are pushing for download content, Sony lacks the infrastructure to provide the same services as Microsoft does in terms of being a content provider and Sony also have to cater to their own interests on Blu Ray disks production and so Blu Ray sales.


Maybe this will be a BIG BOMBSHELL Sony is going to announce. STAR OCEAN 4 for PS3.

Star Ocean is not a system seller, its a relative obscure series that already pushed some buttons with the fanbase with SO3.

[Duo Maxwell]

Thing is getting interesting.
Now how will Sony reach to this....can't wait to see. The more they struggle, the better deal we can get.

[firzenex]

Plans for the next update is allowing installing the games in the HDD, that will make then in par with the PS3.


Wouldn't such a move require, an add-on?
such as the HD-DVD expansion drive once was...



Also they are pushing for download content, Sony lacks the infrastructure to provide the same services as Microsoft does in terms of being a content provider and Sony also have to cater to their own interests on Blu Ray disks production and so Blu Ray sales.

Sony has what it takes, its just taking them a while to get the ball rolling on what matters. They're doing everything all at once, which is generous, but not prioritizing, which is losing them ground...

[Maverick007]

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/06/square-enix-no.html

It was stated last month that for now, there are "no plans" for a PS3 version of Star Ocean 4.

It's amazing how far a few Playstation fans take this news :)

^-^ But remember...that's last month. Remember that Final Fantasy XIII was almost in the same boat, at last years E3, TGS, and even Microsoft's event last month. (Don't you think they would've announce something as big as Final Fantasy XIII coming to their console during THEIR event, instead of a "dying" gamer's convention?? Yes, E3 is dying...)

They just probably got the deal under wraps a few weeks or even days ago, and they just couldn't pass up blabbering on about it... That will also explain the weird way they're doing the X360 development of the game.

That's why I cannot trust anything in the past regarding "exclusivity" and "Only on...blah blah" phrases...

I'm not that steamed that Square-Enix let "Final Fantasy XIII" be a Multi-platform game. "Exclusives" in 3rd party games are getting close to being non-existent. (Unless the game is totally funded by the console maker, like "Gears of War".) And heck if the game is good let everyone play it.

I'm just pissed that Square-Enix went spouting "Exclusive! Exclusive!" and then at this last moment made it into multi-platform.

::sigh:: And thus why I don't believe in that article that you pasted up...because this is an industry that is all about making a profit and so far the best way of making a profit, as a 3rd party developer, is to do multi-platform releases.

In fact Square-Enix, is really playing their cards right in terms of getting the most bang from their buck. PS3 Only in Japan and X360/PS3 Release elsewhere is a smart move considering that the X360 was DOA in Japan with exception of a cult following, while everywhere else the X360 and the PS3 both have decent sized followings. (And remember that Sony owns a part of Square-Enix so they're earning some cash out of the X360 sales as well. ^-^)

My only issue with this being multi-platform is that the American/EU Final Fantasy fans are going to get shafted (again) due to localization issues and the X360 Development, which is going to start AFTER it gets it's initial release in Japan. (God, why do they have to do it that way...)

[Bloodcrave]

i gotta say as a sony fanboy it hurts, but yeah this is just a matter of time, when s-e said they were no longer using white engine but the crystal tools instead for ff13 i already got a hunch it's gonna happen
doesn't mean i'm not getting a ps3 though, if there's anything that won't go over to xbox it's gonna be the new game from team ico (which STILL hasn't been announced at all)

[Maverick007]

Wouldn't such a move require, an add-on?
such as the HD-DVD expansion drive once was...
Nope, just a Hard-Disk Drive (HDD), which is in most X360 models. (The next paragraph will answer your question.)

But yea the "one word" here is..."Optional". While I do agree that X360 fanboys is giving Microsoft too much credit for this. (Since developers should have done it from the beginning...) The installation of games is not something that you "have" to do (like with some PS3 games), but something that you "could" do.

[kingx11]

i still think the joke is on M$ ,

[Maverick007]

i still think the joke is on M$ ,

I'm just curious on why you say that...

I have a feeling it might be on Microsoft's stance in Japan.

[WarLordX]

Lol, I hope you all get RROD when you try to play it. j/k

I'm glad everyone (mostly everyone) will get a chance to play the most recent title of the ff franchise. I skipped out on 11 and 12, never got to finish 10, but I have high hopes for this one. Three cheers for rpgs.

[kingx11]

I'm just curious on why you say that...

I have a feeling it might be on Microsoft's stance in Japan.

i don't think so , final fantasy releases on DS,PSP...etc remakes or not were kinda weak untill ff7:cc was out on psp the hardware sales started to change , a new IP final fantasy isn't as popular as it used to be and now sending it to 360 is'nt gonna help the console in japan , SE said the game is slated for the west (english version) on 360 no japanese version is planned yet , ps3 will get both versions and released same time with 360 version , yes it may sell a lot more on 360 given the fact it has more units working in the world than ps3's but is it gonna drive 360 hardware up?? not likely , however it will be a ps3 hardware booster in japan say the least imo

on the bright side , this deal is win-win for wada and the gang at SE

[Maverick007]

i don't think so , final fantasy releases on DS,PSP...etc remakes or not were kinda weak untill ff7:cc was out on psp the hardware sales started to change , a new IP final fantasy isn't as popular as it used to be and now sending it to 360 is'nt gonna help the console in japan , SE said the game is slated for the west (english version) on 360 no japanese version is planned yet , ps3 will get both versions and released same time with 360 version , yes it may sell a lot more on 360 given the fact it has more units working in the world than ps3's but is it gonna drive 360 hardware up?? not likely , however it will be a ps3 hardware booster in japan say the least imo

on the bright side , this deal is win-win for wada and the gang at SE
Agreed on everything you have pointed out. Money for everyone!!

I just hope that the localized version will have the Japanese voices...if it doesn't I will rip out my hair, curse Square-Enix's name and import the Japanese version. (Unless of course the Japanese version is region coded...which if it is, that would be extremely gay...)

[kingx11]

^^^
they might do it since the point is to make the game reach more fans multi-language voices might appear on the game or at least subtitles

[firzenex]

Nope, just a Hard-Disk Drive (HDD), which is in most X360 models. (The next paragraph will answer your question.)

Aaah, I misread (Drakon's post) that for 'HD-DVD' rather than 'HDD'...
Totally different concept...

[Ensignzeroshin]

I heard that Versus will still remain as a ps3 exclusive.
Yay for Tetsuya. He was the one that opposed ffxiii to going to the 360..

Well, technically in Japan they are only releasing FFXIII to the PS3, as for Europe and America, it will come out on both consoles...

[nick64]

Versus is still a long ways off (as with FFXIII), SE can still turn round and say.. 'oh, the game is also coming out for the 360'

The Japanese are kinda lucky that FFXIII isn't getting a 360 release over there, just imagine the outrage the fans there would have caused!

[trogdor0071]

kz2 will stay exclusive in my eyes, versus is just a matter of time. They still have no update on how the gameplay is looking and only a nearly year old trailer to hang onto.

I may still buy a ps3 just for mgs4. and besides even though I hate to say it, I've been wanting one for along time. But after today my views have changed.

Getting a PS3 just for MGS4 would be kinda dumb.

I beat the game in a day, granted I played it for almost 24 hours straight. But I haven't played the online mode yet.

But you could go through it tons of times to get all the secrets and unlockables. To bad it doesn't have trophy support. :(

[Kerii]

(And remember that Sony owns a part of Square-Enix so they're earning some cash out of the X360 sales as well. ^-^)Sony owned some SE shares, but that was before the Enix buyout/merger.

[kingx11]

behold fanboyism in it's edge


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

[astranagant]

but still, we need more J-games on XBOX360 like Tear to Tiara, Valkyria chronicle, SRW series etc.

since PS3 has better sales in japan than XBOX360, i still have doubt those game will come to XBOX30.

[uremog]

give us mgs as well and that'll be pretty much game over

[astranagant]

give us mgs as well and that'll be pretty much game over

I don't think so
sony still has a market for a game that Japan exclusive only(if XBOX360 can get this market, that'll be a straight slap for PS3 as Gaming console).
and for now, PS3 is the cheapest Blu-Ray player.

and I wonder what will be Mistwalker next move since FFXIII goes to XBOX360?

[northpole776]

wait, does this mean they're dumbing the game down, or just making it nearly impossible for the 360? what happened to the quote that FF13 would be the first game to grace the ps3 with a full display of it's ps3 power to the max?

I don't hate the 360, but a ps3-exclusive that has been touted as such for this long should remain such. Until microsoft brings out a machine that isn't ridiculously stupid at staying on while playing a game, they should actually put some effort into letting us use what they claim the ps3 can do, instead of giving us half the shit so that the 360 can play it too. i'm still waiting for something to utilize all those amazing functions my ps3 can potentially do, but i'm not seeing too much yet.

i wish square would stop fucking around. but not much has been lost. the game looks rubbish anyway.

[astranagant]

from what I heard, technically XBOX360 had better GPU than PS3
and PS3 had better processor (Cell) but what the Cell can do or the function for PS3 still being questioned
since for now there are yet game that utilize the full power of Cell ( dunno about MGS4 )

[johnblade]

wait, does this mean they're dumbing the game down, or just making it nearly impossible for the 360? what happened to the quote that FF13 would be the first game to grace the ps3 with a full display of it's ps3 power to the max?

I don't hate the 360, but a ps3-exclusive that has been touted as such for this long should remain such. Until Microsoft brings out a machine that isn't ridiculously stupid at staying on while playing a game, they should actually put some effort into letting us use what they claim the ps3 can do, instead of giving us half the shit so that the 360 can play it too. i'm still waiting for something to utilize all those amazing functions my ps3 can potentially do, but i'm not seeing too much yet.

i wish square would stop fucking around. but not much has been lost. the game looks rubbish anyway.


From what might happen is maybe they will put this game on more than one disc for the xbox360 (because of the space limit the DVD disc over the blue ray disc). But this idea of multi disc for the xbox have been done before with another game (which I don't know the name....some Lost something).
But you should check out the interview about this issues with the CEO of SE. He already say that this game will first produce in the ps3 system and will release it on Japan FIRST. Then they will translate the game into English and also PORT it into the Xbox360 when they send it ton North America and Europe market. As of if they any stuff that might exclusive for the Xbox360 over ps3, they isn't any info about that.

For people who is still asking why SE did this move (and still surprise you didn't see it) is they need to make more money to break even. Ps3 is only doing well in Japan while the 360 just lost the Japanese market. Unfortunately, it's a different story in North America and Europe where they market share isn't what it use to be on the Ps2 era. With that in mind, SE have to somehow make money in those market but how the hell you're going to do that if the game console they always make for, doesn't have the market share of the consumer of gamer? It's a loose loose situation for them if they just make the game for the Ps3 only. Yeah, they will make the profit in Japan but they won't get the profit in Europe and North America like they use to. So, the idea to bring this game on multi-platform is a great idea for them to break even and make a decent profit. Also, games isn't use to be cheap to produce. This might be another reason why they did this. For the people who is piss at SE about they decision to make this game into multi-platform and saying they betray Sony, SE is a company and like every other company, they have to make money. They don't give a rat asses too much of the customers about loyalty of the console. If you think that way that game company should only make games only for certain console, you have some issues to deal with. My two cent.

[astranagant]

yep, profit first, loyalty second
without money, they can't exist and make another game

[northpole776]

If you think that way that game company should only make games only for certain console, you have some issues to deal with. My two cent.

yeah, that's true. just a little pissed off.

but obviously, for a multiplatform, a game will have to be levelled to meet the capabilities of both platforms. and of course, i don't mind cross-platform games.

it only makes me annoyed when someone goes, 'hey look, this game is going to be fine-tuned to this console!' to which i respond with 'yay,' and then they go, 'wait, we're going to smooth it out over both consoles,' to which i respond with 'huh? what does that mean for the quality of the game?'

[Atachi]

yeah, that's true. just a little pissed off.

but obviously, for a multiplatform, a game will have to be levelled to meet the capabilities of both platforms. and of course, i don't mind cross-platform games.

it only makes me annoyed when someone goes, 'hey look, this game is going to be fine-tuned to this console!' to which i respond with 'yay,' and then they go, 'wait, we're going to smooth it out over both consoles,' to which i respond with 'huh? what does that mean for the quality of the game?'ehh... the game was supposed to be build in their new multiplatform-engine anyways.. that engine so far was ps3 and pc, they just added/adding x360 support to it from what they learned while making the other 3 games that come out for the x360.

also ther eis nothing special to the ps3 performance-wise, that the x360 wouldn't be able to do - even if they differ in technical details quite a lot, in the overall end they equal each other out.
(while developing for x360 is a lot easier since it's about the same as developing for windows so they can just kinda mirror the PC-part of the engine and tweak it for the x360)

[sf101]

Well sonyboys & girls at least FFXIII isn't coming to the Wii.
Yes I did just say that so paranoid fans can cry and argue over what is their other greatest fear. Now provide me with some entertainment haha!

[Drakron]

...
For people who is still asking why SE did this move (and still surprise you didn't see it) is they need to make more money to break even. Ps3 is only doing well in Japan while the 360 just lost the Japanese market.Unfortunately, it's a different story in North America and Europe where they market share isn't what it use to be on the Ps2 era. With that in mind, SE have to somehow make money in those market but how the hell you're going to do that if the game console they always make for, doesn't have the market share of the consumer of gamer? It's a loose loose situation for them if they just make the game for the Ps3 only. Yeah, they will make the profit in Japan but they won't get the profit in Europe and North America like they use to.

There is another reason, the PS3 might be doing better in Japan that the XBox 360 but it only sold 2 million as of March 30, 2008.

Now considering the costs of "next gen" development and the fast the PS3 is no PS2 in terms of market size then it suddenly became a bigger issue to stick to one system and be able to recover development cost.

Point is Japan alone is not enough as a market for AAA next gen titles due to costs.

[toxicity]

I don't think you need to worry about it being a worse game only because it's coming to x360. Firstly it still developed for PS3 and afterwards ported to the xbox. And also the maximum capacity (except dvd vs blu-ray) of each console is very similar, with each one having some advantages over the other.

Should it turn out that the PS3 manage to run the game with better graphics than the X360 I don't see why they would change it to match the xbox. GTA IV is released for both platforms but still look a tiny bit better on the PS3, they didn't tone it down to match the MS version

[kingx11]

Sony owned some SE shares, but that was before the Enix buyout/merger.


they still own , to be accurate 8% only


http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/

[JpnFfantasy]

I like how the trailer says "for Playstation 3 only in Japan" so it's still exclusive to the PS3. . . IN JAPAN.

[megadomonic]

Man... if God of War, Metal gear Solid, and other Final Fantasy games hit Xbox, all hell will break loose with gamers!!

[Maverick007]

Man... if God of War, Metal gear Solid, and other Final Fantasy games hit Xbox, all hell will break loose with gamers!!

If "God of War" would hit the X360 then hell would definitely break loose because "God of War" is developed by Sony's Santa Monica Studios...

I'm pretty sure that Versus XIII will go Multi-Plat eventually, since Square-Enix loves money...

As for Metal Gear Solid 4....I personally do not know.

[Kyokugen Master]

I don't understand why PS3 fans should be pissed about this news. Square-Enix is just a video game developer trying to make money. (like they all do) I'm sure if Sony would have bribed them enough, we wouldn't be seeing this news. Regardless of the corporations decision, what sick bastard cares so much about a game being exclusive so owners of the other consoles won't get to enjoy it.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

I don't understand why PS3 fans should be pissed about this news. Square-Enix is just a video game developer trying to make money. (like they all do) I'm sure if Sony would have bribed them enough, we wouldn't be seeing this news. Regardless of the corporations decision, what sick bastard cares so much about a game being exclusive so owners of the other consoles won't get to enjoy it.
cause they don't like to accept that the console they spent over 800 dollars on when it released is actually the one that will fail.

[Drakron]

Square-Enix is just a video game developer trying to make money.

Square Enix is publisher with a 174.516 billion yen revenue in 2006 (one billion yen equals roughly US$8.5 million) so they hardly qualify as "just a video game developer".

[ForteAnly]

I don't understand why PS3 fans should be pissed about this news. Square-Enix is just a video game developer trying to make money. (like they all do) I'm sure if Sony would have bribed them enough, we wouldn't be seeing this news. Regardless of the corporations decision, what sick bastard cares so much about a game being exclusive so owners of the other consoles won't get to enjoy it.

Some PS3 owners like to feel special that's why.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Square Enix is publisher with a 174.516 billion yen revenue in 2006 (one billion yen equals roughly US$8.5 million) so they hardly qualify as "just a video game developer".
true, but if they want more income, they will make versus multiplatform. By doing so, they will earn double the intake and a much larger fan base. This would be the smartest decision. Now ps3 has to hang onto it's shit exclusives or it'll fall under the category "most short lived console in history" I think it'll either place first, or it'll place 2nd.

If anything, square enix will feel bad for sony and keep versus exclusive. Now if they do that, not only will they LOSE money, but they will lose fans as well.

Favortism is not nice, and if they were smart, they would make exclusive stuff for xbox 360 also. Like make episodic content from versus.

[Sayaka]

true, but if they want more income, they will make versus multiplatform. By doing so, they will earn double the intake and a much larger fan base. This would be the smartest decision. Now ps3 has to hang onto it's shit exclusives or it'll fall under the category "most short lived console in history" I think it'll either place first, or it'll place 2nd.

If anything, square enix will feel bad for sony and keep versus exclusive. Now if they do that, not only will they LOSE money, but they will lose fans as well.

Favortism is not nice, and if they were smart, they would make exclusive stuff for xbox 360 also. Like make episodic content from versus.

Aren't you contradicting yourself in the same post?

---

I'm all up for exclusive games, but if it goes multi-platform, it's not the end of the world.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Aren't you contradicting yourself in the same post?

---

I'm all up for exclusive games, but if it goes multi-platform, it's not the end of the world.
it seems like it but no. I said IF and only IF they feel sorry for them will they keep it exclusive. But That is improbable. why? because, Final Fantasy has to be one of the biggest fan bases in video gaming today. Pokemon being first. and if they dissapoint their fans, they lose money. Lots of money. My bet is that already most of their fans aren't going to buy a ps3 now. And they are most likely thinking the same as I.

How is that? because sony lost one of it's biggest hits, and because of that, they lost buyers.

Final Fantasy fans have been disappointed before (when sony took FF away from nintendo) and now microsoft, being the cheaper, bigger selling console, is stealing it from them. Now the fans are happier in a sense that they won't have to spend that much money for a 40 gb console, when they can get a 120 gb console for the same price and have a larger selection in games.

Square enix just made one of the smartest moves ever. so did microsoft. Ps3 has been behind 360 since the beginning, and 360 has alot more to offer than that of the ps3.

Ps3 lost, and is the loser. Now they will try to recover but since big name industries like SE are making moves like that, and earning more money, they will fail to keep future big name exclusives.

Once again, thank you blue ray for costing a shit load of money.

[Tigerofthewind]

What all this talk of PS3 as being the loser? It's not even midway through the game yet. I mean the Wii has sold what? 25 million? 360 somewhere around 18-20 million? This is a marathon, not a sprint guys. I don't think anyone can really call a winner for 3-4 more years or at least until someone forces the next generation.

It's also bullshit how people are claiming that SE are "traitors blah blah blah". They just made a smart business move. If people are real fans they'll still buy it for the system they intended to buy it for. There's been a bunch of 360 games that's been slated for PS3 like Bioshock and Eternal Sonata. I'm not really upset over those(however a little jealous over the added content in ES). So what if the PS3 lost a big exclusive. It's not like SE made a complete 180 and made it 360 exclusive.

[Maverick007]

The first question on the floor was one to clarify how, if at all, the Xbox 360 release would affect the PS3 version. The short answer is that it won't. Final Fantasy XIII is being developed first for the PS3 in Japan, a region that won't see an Xbox 360 release. The Xbox 360 iteration is a port of the PS3 build, but Square was quick to point out that you can't say this will cause a delay of the PS3 release in America. Separate teams are working on the two versions and both are moving along on schedule. There shouldn't be a delay in any releases

Previous Final Fantasy games have taken at least six months to bring them from Japan to North America, and then another six months to reach Europe. The team plans on cutting this time down considerably for Final Fantasy XIII. Because of this shorter time, there are no plans for additional content over what the Japanese original has.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/890/890349p1.html

EDIT ADDED: IGN's Xbox Team's words not mine....

[Bloodcrave]

i personally don't see what's so bad about going to xbox360, but the problem is s-e downright lied to sony, for the last few years they keep on saying ps3 only ps3 only and suddenly bam have fun biatches, and we haven't hear the xbox exclusives like star ocean 4 and infinite undiscovery going to ps3 too, so this is really unfair

[Drakron]

Lied?

A Sony representative once pointed out there was no exclusivity deal for Final Fantasy XIII, the rumors of a possible coming of FF XIII to the Xbox 360 started there.

In case you fail to notice Square is in NO OBLIGATION to state what platforms they are develop a title to, announcing such things have timing and Sony should be grateful Square Enix decided to keep this multi platform news for so long, they sold many PS3 based on the "Final Fantasy XIII only on PS3".

[Sayaka]

Taken from Kotaku's E3 live blogging on Square-Enix's press conference (http://kotaku.com/5025033/liveblogging-square-enix-press-conference):

2:21 question: when was the timing of the xbox 360 decision?
2:24 hashimoto: "it wasn't a long time ago that we made the decision. we had to adjust things, like our relationship with microsoft. it was recent."

Unless those were lies, then it probably wasn't a secret.

[Ensignzeroshin]

I thought Japanese people have pride. They still kind of do since in Japan, they will only sell it for the PS3...
The thing that bothered me is that SE lied to Sony...for 3 years!
I don't care about it going to the 360, the more the merrier and the more profitable for them but damn... since FFVII, all of the FF's had been going to the PS brand...

SE just slapped Sony in the face, but I guess its a learning lesson for Sony that they should just pay for exclusives..

[trogdor0071]

I have a PS3, 360, and Wii (Although that last one doesn't matter to what I'm talking about).

So I no longer have to worry about exclusives. :P

(Except for the PC... mines slow as hell...)

But, being that I bought a PS3 for the main purpose of playing FFXIII I did feel a little cheated.

Anyway, any multiplatform game will be played on my 360, so no big deal.

[Drakron]

Blah, blah, blah

Excuse me but since WHEN MULTIPLATFORM IS A BAD THING?

This is why I hate fanboys YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE GAMES THEMSELVES; ONLY OF THE FACT THEY ARE EXCLUSIVE TO THEIR CONSOLE!

GROW THE F*** UP!

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Excuse me but since WHEN MULTIPLATFORM IS A BAD THING?

This is why I hate fanboys YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE GAMES THEMSELVES; ONLY OF THE FACT THEY ARE EXCLUSIVE TO THEIR CONSOLE!

GROW THE F*** UP!
My thoughts exactly, I mean seriously, just thank SE they haven't made the better version of the game (Versus) multi...now xbox 360 fans of final fantasy will be crying because Sony is getting another exclusive they don't deserve.

Now SE, the greedy sons of bitches, want us to buy a bullshit 400 dollar console that doesn't have all that good of game selection, so we can play Versus. WHY CAN'T IT ALL BE MULTIPLATFORM!?! fucking cocksucking whorebag motherfuckers.

sorry, but I am angry right now. both at SE and sony. Why? cause SE doesn't want to make things totally fair. Sony cause their fanboys are to goddamn ignorant to see past their selfish cocksucking views, to notice that there are other people out there that can't afford to pay an extra 400+ to get a ps3.

Assholes.

Sorry that I got angry, but they just don't realise that everything can't go their way all the time.

[cyress8]

FUCKING MULTIPLATFORM!!! Where is the PC love huh!?! IM ALL ANGRIES NAO! GIMME GAME FOR PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I think I have a reason to buy a 360, but will hold off until the game is out and I can grab it with ease. Love FF games but the love isn't as strong as it was back in the day =3 PC FOR LIFE, SON!

[JackDestiny]

There is no problem that the Xbox 360 guys get FFXIII but I hate those fanboys who posts "epic pictures" and feel so happy and write shit because they get a >GAME<.

[Maverick007]

My thoughts exactly, I mean seriously, just thank SE they haven't made the better version of the game (Versus) multi...now xbox 360 fans of final fantasy will be crying because Sony is getting another exclusive they don't deserve.

Now SE, the greedy sons of bitches, want us to buy a bullshit 400 dollar console that doesn't have all that good of game selection, so we can play Versus. WHY CAN'T IT ALL BE MULTIPLATFORM!?! fucking cocksucking whorebag motherfuckers.

sorry, but I am angry right now. both at SE and sony. Why? cause SE doesn't want to make things totally fair. Sony cause their fanboys are to goddamn ignorant to see past their selfish cocksucking views, to notice that there are other people out there that can't afford to pay an extra 400+ to get a ps3.

Assholes.

Sorry that I got angry, but they just don't realise that everything can't go their way all the time.

They don't make things totally fair??

So the X360 getting "Infinitely Undiscovery" and "Star Ocean: The Last Hope" which have been announce for only the X360 so far is showing that they're only focusing on Sony??

I think that Microsoft as well are "too goddamn ignorant to see past their selfish cocksucking views, to notice that there are other people out there that can't afford to pay for an Xbox360".

^-^ Double Standards FTL!!

But anyways, it doesn't matter because... SQUARE-ENIX, SONY, MICROSOFT, NINTENDO, WAL-MART, OR ANY OTHER GOD-FORSAKEN COMPANY OUT ON THE MARKET TODAY DOESN'T GIVE A FLYING F*** WHAT YOU THINK OF THEM!!

Because they're in it for the money, not loyalty to fans, or innovation... They just want to increase their revenue.

So if you want them to make "Final Fantasy Versus XIII", "Star Ocean: The Last Hope", or any other "exclusive" game to be multi-platform tell Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft to cough up the fricken cash to make it so...

[sakuravs]

Still, I don't think this news would stop people from buying the cheapest Blue-ray player on the market.

[Alupihan]

microsoft failed w/ yahoo but succeeded w/ a square-enix franchise.

holy sh*t! how desperate have they become!

[johnblade]

JackDestiny
^ Are you talking to me about that epic image I post on this topic? If you are, I am coming to get you just like what they say about the 4chan stuff on Fox. Mwuahh!!!

Naw, just joking. I am not x360 fan nor ps3 fan (and also Wii). Hell, I don't own any new console right now. I like to make fun of the fan sometime because they're very narrow minded on this console war. They think fighting for a console they love over the other console just for pride is stupid. For me, all the console have advantage and disadvantage and if you have the money, buy all three. They're all good console. If you're fighting for the idea that the other console company is evil because they're money monster, than you should recheck your thinking because all three game console company are they to make money so in a way, they all money monster.

[Drakron]

Now SE, the greedy sons of bitches, want us to buy a bullshit 400 dollar console that doesn't have all that good of game selection, so we can play Versus.

Well one the FF XIII games is a freaking cellphone game of all things.

I do not mind Versus being only in the PS3, first its a action-RPG and there is so little information about it (as the TBA release date indicates) that makes me wonder about its status (since its reminding me of the "black hole" of information about FF XII when it was in development hell).

If anything its the Japanese Xbox 360 owners that have all the right to be pissed, their only saving grace is that the PS3 have a free pricing policy in Japan and also they might get lucky if Square Enix does not region lock the game.


FUCKING MULTIPLATFORM!!! Where is the PC love huh!?! IM ALL ANGRIES NAO! GIMME GAME FOR PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately considering FF VII and FF VIII sales on the PC is unlikely that its going to happen.

[Maverick007]

“Final Fantasy XIII not for Japan on the Xbox 360. Big deal. This is not a problem or issue. Microsoft will continue to achieve success everywhere with it’s vast library of titles and is working hard to make it better.”
http://whatifgaming.com/whatifgaming-e3-08-microsoft-no-ffxiii-in-japan-big-deal

::facepalm:: I know this is PR, but in reality they're saying to themselves.... "Shit!!"

So far Japan is an open canvas for the HD Consoles, and currently "Final Fantasy XIII" is really the "one" game that can push massive sales in Japan. But now since it's only on the PS3 in Japan, it's going to sell just that...PS3s.

Both Sony and Microsoft need Japan to buy their consoles, especially Microsoft, but if this game doesn't get released in Japan, Microsoft should just give up on that region...

[Drakron]

Actually Maverick007 ... no, Japan as a market is irreverent now, that is why Nintendo made the Wii sure it launched in NA with as little bumps as it could since NA is critical,

Microsoft have not much control over what publishers want or can release in some regions (Namco for example, have no publishing capabilities in Europe), Square Enix is doing the math ... Xbox 360 sold about 600,000 units in Japan as the PS3 sold 2 million, they do not have much room to maneuver in terms of sales in Japan.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

I give up fighting for this game to come out for x360, I'm just going to save up and buy a ps3 -_-

[firzenex]

I give up fighting for this game to come out for x360, I'm just going to save up and buy a ps3 -_-

Where the rules of supply and demand are broken.
Its what you do for customers that they won't expect that has them at their knees, not what the customers want for themselves...

[TheAwakener]

Gee it sure is butthurt around here.

Just enjoy the game people. :rolleyes:

[tank419]

wow can't believe they sold out of that title,major loss

[SiegLord]

I remember hearing this announcement live. It was quite awesome to tell the truth, especially since I had no intention of getting a PS3. Just feels like they don't have enough cool exclusives anymore to warrant otherwise.

[yangxu]

Well, whatever's being exclusive, the rival console will always end up getting a DC version of the same game. It's good that FF13 comes out for both platforms, otherwise when 360 version's announced a year after the PS3 version with additional quests, weapons, bosses, etc., I think PS3 users are gonna be more pissed than now. :D

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Well, whatever's being exclusive, the rival console will always end up getting a DC version of the same game. It's good that FF13 comes out for both platforms, otherwise when 360 version's announced a year after the PS3 version with additional quests, weapons, bosses, etc., I think PS3 users are gonna be more pissed than now. :D


This may be exactly how they release Versus content to us. Maybe release The Prince as a playable character? regardless, I am still getting a ps3 just in case. Beside I really want to play MGS4

[Genjo senpai]

well all i have to say is alot of fans was very pissed on what SE did puttin FF13 on 360. but i realy dont care anymore after makin move like that bleh. as long i get my FF13 i am good but the sales on 360 ver i have to say would not do so well beacuse of the system abilitys for FF13 unless they start over (which they are doing working ground up for 360 Ver lol). i though SE have learned there lesson by now about relaseing other FF games on 360 lol.

[Aida]

I'm getting a 360 this time, so I'm kinda glad they put it out as multi-platform. I just hope there aren't much differences in terms of graphics, so the fanboys won't start raving/ranting about it.

[BOiNG!]

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08296/entrance03746.jpg
Thread re-open as promised.
Stay on topic and behave yourself...

[rhapsody9]

well all i have to say is alot of fans was very pissed on what SE did puttin FF13 on 360. but i realy dont care anymore after makin move like that bleh. as long i get my FF13 i am good but the sales on 360 ver i have to say would not do so well beacuse of the system abilitys for FF13 unless they start over (which they are doing working ground up for 360 Ver lol). i though SE have learned there lesson by now about relaseing other FF games on 360 lol.
Not really. I expected this to happen since most of SE's games are on xbox 360 if not nintendo, not to mention that making exclusive games won't give them that much profit, if there is, anyway.

[Bubblemonkey]

well all i have to say is alot of fans was very pissed on what SE did puttin FF13 on 360. but i realy dont care anymore after makin move like that bleh. as long i get my FF13 i am good but the sales on 360 ver i have to say would not do so well beacuse of the system abilitys for FF13 unless they start over (which they are doing working ground up for 360 Ver lol). i though SE have learned there lesson by now about relaseing other FF games on 360 lol.They aren't starting over with the 360 version...it's simply going to be ported over which, while a large task, isn't the same as starting the entire process from the beginning.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

They aren't starting over with the 360 version...it's simply going to be ported over which, while a large task, isn't the same as starting the entire process from the beginning.
yeah, just a matter of having the right amount of disks. I think it'll be 5.

[Wh1t3y3t1]

5 disks? how many are they looking at for the ps3 version? mind you with it being blu-ray will they need more than one?

[Maverick007]

As a PS3 owner I was a bit disappointed of the announcement that "Final Fantasy XIII" is now not a PS3 exclusive...

But I got over that...unfortunately some other people just can't "Get a Grip"...

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/lifeofmyown.jpg
http://kotaku.com/5026918/this-guy-needs-a-heaping-helping-of-get-a-grip

So much whining...

[RocKM]

@Maverick:LOL... thats just as bad as that youtube clip kingx posted a few pages back xD Actually i still think the video scores just a tad bit more points because of the complete lack of plot xD

Seriously i seem to recall this happening yonks back to when Capcom did the whole port of RE4 to PS2 (cept no one gave a crap coz GC was a "failure") and the DMC4 360 port as well =P Heck Eternal Sonata is also getting ported to PS3 now w/ the usual extras content and whatnot.. simple matter is unless the product was made by an in house studio exclusivity is pretty much non existant now a days as any global company would need to court BOTH systems if they want profits, specially with todays console division being completely different area wise as opposed to last gen ie. PS2, xbox then GC spread over the major EU, NA and Jp regions, as opposed to the polarised 360/Wii over PS3 sales on NA/AU and PS3/Wii over 360 in Asia/Japan (note:thats just estimates don't start the whole fanboi zomg! but so and so had x amount sold over x period and whatnot junk on me. I'm making a generalised point here >.>) To maintain exclusive on a market like that really risks alienating one global market completely and therefore excessive market losses.

[King Peter]

Oh well, it was bound to happen one day

I got both system so I don't gave a rat's a** wheter it's only for 1 or 2 systems. I'm still gonna buy the PS3 version of FF13 :D

[Psycho Le Cemu]

5 disks? how many are they looking at for the ps3 version? mind you with it being blu-ray will they need more than one?

As far as I know, one should be fine. A Blu ray disc can hold 7 360 games with a gig left over if I remember correctly.

[Bubblemonkey]

yeah, just a matter of having the right amount of disks. I think it'll be 5.:rolleyes: Blu-ray big, DVD small...we get it. Get over it.

I got both system so I don't gave a rat's a** wheter it's only for 1 or 2 systems. I'm still gonna buy the PS3 version of FF13 :DI'm wondering which version I should get, now...frankly, my PS3 could use the work (really wish work hadn't practically forced me to get the damn thing since it's been pretty much doing nothing but collecting dust...at least I can claim it on my taxes next year).....

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

:rolleyes: Blu-ray big, DVD small...we get it. Get over it.
I'm wondering which version I should get, now...frankly, my PS3 could use the work (really wish work hadn't practically forced me to get the damn thing since it's been pretty much doing nothing but collecting dust...at least I can claim it on my taxes next year).....
Just stating the facts, Blue ray has 50 gb worth of space, Now since they are making it for the playstation first, then sending it over to xbox, It could take multiple disks.

being a xbox 360 owner, I have to know this.

[DoNotPause]

Duak layer BD is 50gig, single layer is only 25gig. Anyway, that's not important.
Disc capacity is not important here. More interested in whether there will be difference between the two version. If they want it to be the same, they'll bound to find a way to fit the whole thing in.

[Kitee]

Hm.. people are more concerned about size rather than quality. The number of discs doesn't really matter. You just have to change a disc every 20 hours or so, that's nothing.

What should be of concern is whether or not the 2 versions' quality is going to be the same.

[Sayaka]

Hm.. people are more concerned about size rather than quality. The number of discs doesn't really matter. You just have to change a disc every 20 hours or so, that's nothing.

What should be of concern is whether or not the 2 versions' quality is going to be the same.

I'm guessing that they would be the same. FFXIII will most likely push the 360 to its limits.

[Genjo senpai]

Just stating the facts, Blue ray has 50 gb worth of space, Now since they are making it for the playstation first, then sending it over to xbox, It could take multiple disks.

being a xbox 360 owner, I have to know this.


i hear from somewhere they are makin 360 ver from grounds up so it might make it where it takes 2 -disks i believe or even 3 disks lol.

[feiX]

the Square folks have already said they want to make both versions the same, so no special content on either version. But, the ps3 version will be finished first. I just hope they don't try to think ahead and decide what features would be easier to create for the 360 and develop accordingly...

[Bubblemonkey]

i hear from somewhere they are makin 360 ver from grounds up so it might make it where it takes 2 -disks i believe or even 3 disks lol.Page 14...


well all i have to say is alot of fans was very pissed on what SE did puttin FF13 on 360. but i realy dont care anymore after makin move like that bleh. as long i get my FF13 i am good but the sales on 360 ver i have to say would not do so well beacuse of the system abilitys for FF13 unless they start over (which they are doing working ground up for 360 Ver lol). i though SE have learned there lesson by now about relaseing other FF games on 360 lol.They aren't starting over with the 360 version...it's simply going to be ported over which, while a large task, isn't the same as starting the entire process from the beginning.

[kingx11]

let's put smiles on some faces here



The latest 1UP E3 wrap-up podcast (which runs for a more-than-lengthy 3 hours) has divulged some information on the possibility of a new PlayStation 3 exclusive from Square Enix. Towards the end of the podcast, Shane states that he has been speaking to representatives from Square Enix, who have told him that "Final Fantasy XIII on 360 announcement swung the ball towards Microsoft. At Square Enix's Japan event in 2 weeks, they will swing the ball back towards Sony".

The reason Shane was questioning the event, was due to plans for large announcements regarding the Blu-ray release of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Square could possibly be announcing a remake of Final Fantasy VII for PS3, a Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children game for PS3, Final Fantasy Versus XIII on PS3, or another brand new title.


http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168905

If such an announcement show up Shin-Ra will return :)

[sagimine1]

As for Final Fantasy XIII coming for xbox 360 I could give a rat ass, but if they dare make Final Fantasy VII(a game that could possible swing my vote for ps3) a multiplatform, then congratulation SquareEnix you just a new psychopath in today's society -_-

[Barrbarr]

Um, why exactly are people angry over more people getting access to the game? No one who would have had access to it before (PS3 owners) has lost it.

Are you really so eager to deny people the ability to enjoy the game? Do you hate the game so much that you want to prevent it from ever being seen by people so it will fail? Are your life savings riding on Sony stock, and your family will starve to death if it doesn't rise?

No? Well then what the hell is the problem? If you are really fans of the game you should be HAPPY that a wider audience now has access to it and its appeal will spread. Instead people are ranting that they are no longer able to deny people the spread of a game they supposedly love and want to succeed. Can you smell the hypocrisy?

[Maverick007]

Um, why exactly are all you people angry over more people getting access to the game? No one who would have had access to it before (PS3 owners) has lost it.

Are you really so eager to deny people the ability to enjoy the game? Do you hate the game so much that you want to prevent people from ever seeing it? Are your life savings riding on Sony stock, and your family will starve to death if it doesn't rise?

No? Well then what the hell is the problem? If any of you are really fans of the game you should be HAPPY that a wider audience now has access to it and its appeal will spread. Instead people are ranting that they are no longer able to deny people the spread of a game they supposedly love and want to succeed. The hypocrisy is sickening.

Have you read the whole thread, a lot of people who wrote in thread already accepted the fact that "Final Fantasy XIII" is now multi-platform, and for the most part got over it. Most of us are in fact "happy" that PS3 AND X360 owners will have a chance to play this game.

The real issue, as well as the topic at hand, is whether the game is going to be "held back" both in time and in graphical limits because of it. To me, I don't really in issue in the graphical issues since the development for the X360 version hasn't even started yet.

But the problem lies within the release time... Although Square-Enix already stated that they are looking for a X360/PS3 simultaneous release within 6 months (the same time that it took to get FFXII out in the US), it takes a lot of time and effort to do the localization within that period of time, let alone develop another version of the game within that time frame. So in other words, the EU/American PS3 owners will have their localized version most likely ready to be shipped prior to the X360 Version being finished... Thus forcing the EU/American PS3 owners to wait an extra "how many months" to get the game.

That is what I'm worried about, because I WANT TO SERIOUSLY PLAY THIS GAME!!!

[Drakron]

After all this time we know the PS3 is not more powerful that the Xbox 360, they deliver roughly the same.

Xbox 360 games were ported to the PS3, PS3 games were ported to the Xbox 360 ... we already know the only issue is when Xbox 360 games are ported to the PS3 seem to be worst on the PS3.

FF XIII will look roughly the same on the PS3 and Xbox 360, we need to look no further that DMC4 and GTAIV to know that.

As for the question of time ... I could go down memory lane and remind everyone how long does it taken for FF titles to be released in NA after they been released on JPN, honestly I expect 1 year after JPN release to see it on PAL land since that is about how long did it take in the past.

And last since people seem to think console game development is done by using magic wands and bizarre rituals ...

Final Fantasy XIII game engine is Crystal Tools, Crystal Tools is designed for work in the PS3, Xbox 360, Windows and Wii.

The game is being done ON A PC, then its going to be made to run on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

[solblade007]

Too bad Square won't release it on the PC...

[Barrbarr]

Have you read the whole thread, a lot of people who wrote in thread already accepted the fact that "Final Fantasy XIII" is now multi-platform, and for the most part got over it. Most of us are in fact "happy" that PS3 AND X360 owners will have a chance to play this game.

Ok, yeah I was a bit hasty in generalizing everyone in this thread. Who I was really after were the rabid fanboys I'm seeing everywhere on the internet and in a few instances on this thread. Guess I took it out on all you guys. Sorry about that.

Both the developers and consumers lose from exclusivity. Developers get less money, the game gets less exposure and fewer people get access to games.

In fact that's one of the reasons why I'm primarily a PC gaming fan. It is simply better, with far more freedom in every single way.

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

Have you read the whole thread, a lot of people who wrote in thread already accepted the fact that "Final Fantasy XIII" is now multi-platform, and for the most part got over it. Most of us are in fact "happy" that PS3 AND X360 owners will have a chance to play this game.

The real issue, as well as the topic at hand, is whether the game is going to be "held back" both in time and in graphical limits because of it. To me, I don't really in issue in the graphical issues since the development for the X360 version hasn't even started yet.

But the problem lies within the release time... Although Square-Enix already stated that they are looking for a X360/PS3 simultaneous release within 6 months (the same time that it took to get FFXII out in the US), it takes a lot of time and effort to do the localization within that period of time, let alone develop another version of the game within that time frame. So in other words, the EU/American PS3 owners will have their localized version most likely ready to be shipped prior to the X360 Version being finished... Thus forcing the EU/American PS3 owners to wait an extra "how many months" to get the game.

That is what I'm worried about, because I WANT TO SERIOUSLY PLAY THIS GAME!!!
Calm down! we all want to, and yes you do have a point. But this is the only fair thing SE has been able to think of, a simultanious release. This is so that ps3 owners still have to wait the same amount of time xbox fans do. This is to level out the playing field and even though ps3 owners probably don't notice yet, Xbox is getting it's payback on ps3. It's one thing to argue on whice console is better, but it's a totally different story when you have to diss on one.

Sony, your not smart. What goes around comes around, baby.

[kingx11]

i love it when people talk about the future that they don't know about

forget it because if you kept thinkin' about it you'll develop some brain issues lol

[oXCloudStrifeXo]

i love it when people talk about the future that they don't know about

forget it because if you kept thinkin' about it you'll develop some brain issues lol
yep, one time I got bit by an ant, thinking it was a spider. Soon I was so worried, that pains began to occur that actually weren't happening.

I calmed down, the pains went away and the bite went away a couple days later.

I really don't care about the main game, just Versus.

[Maverick007]

i love it when people talk about the future that they don't know about

forget it because if you kept thinkin' about it you'll develop some brain issues lol

^-^ ahhh... But thinking about it is so much fun...

And remember that speculation of tomorrow always develops the acts of today...


Calm down!

I AM CALM DAMMIT!! I am calm!! I am calm... ::smiles::

^-^ Actually I was really calm, but I guess the way I wrote my little thing kind of made it seem like I was angry or something (especially the last sentence). But yeah, don't worry I'm calm...


Ok, yeah I was a bit hasty in generalizing everyone in this thread. Who I was really after were the rabid fanboys I'm seeing everywhere on the internet and in a few instances on this thread. Guess I took it out on all you guys. Sorry about that.

Both the developers and consumers lose from exclusivity. Developers get less money, the game gets less exposure and fewer people get access to games.

In fact that's one of the reasons why I'm primarily a PC gaming fan. It is simply better, with far more freedom in every single way.

^-^ No worries, we have all been hasty sometimes and write things without looking at the whole picture.
(Like automatically assuming EVERYTHING that is in the article by just reading the title.)

And I do agree.... PC GAMING FTW...Except for the cost of hardware...

[kingx11]

i imight download it for 360 , because i can install it on it an then runs a NoDVD crack on 360 then play it for free (1$ for the blank dvd-rw i'll use to burn those files)

ta daaa

[Jona87]

PC Gaming FTW MOTHERFUCKER! *piledrives kingx11*

[kingx11]

^^^
you've got some soft thighs lol , do you shave them? j/k

it's just a game get over it guys

[Blurymind]

too bad for sony that they now are getting robbed systematically from their franchises. Micro$oft has the money to establish a monopoly over the game market,but they are the worst to do so-- m$ is just not fitted for this. Why? They dont have any imagination, windows is the dullest os, xbox is just a computer,there is no innovation inside- you can take out some of its parts and put them in your pc. microsoft and innovation are two words that just dont seem right in one sentence. They just win the market with money and when they do- they make people buy their crap and some more crap with it. Maybe we will see antivirus software for xbox soon :P , some preinstalled shit that eats up your memory while you're playing...
Just look at xbox's controller- it has the worst design..and the other one,the newer- its just a blatant immitation of playstation's (only done poorly)

Nitendo and sony should not let m$ buy their people and steal their art to ruin it- this madness should stop..

but yeah,sony deservses it for putting on the market so high prices of their games


pc gaming is sooo owned by consoles, but you guys are too cheap to realize it. =D Good,memorable,original games come out on consoles,they come out in japan mostly, and that pisses you off

consoles are computers,only that they have original hardware and innovation which makes them so fascinating... and xbox is not a console- its a dull pc,soon to come out with winderz preinstalled and all the shit you already have on your pc.
Heck, pc gaming sells that piece of crap called winderz..if they are not greedy enough to ruin the fun of those "other" games,they just wouldnt be microsoft

[Haloman]

pc gaming is sooo owned by consoles, but you guys are too cheap to realize it.

Either you have a weak pc, or you dont like to play games on it... OR, you live in a different world were pc gaming sucks

[kingx11]

too bad for sony that they now are getting robbed systematically from their franchises. Micro$oft has the money to establish a monopoly over the game market,but they are the worst to do so-- m$ is just not fitted for this. Why? They dont have any imagination, windows is the dullest os, xbox is just a computer,there is no innovation inside- you can take out some of its parts and put them in your pc. microsoft and innovation are two words that just dont seem right in one sentence. They just win the market with money and when they do- they make people buy their crap and some more crap with it. Maybe we will see antivirus software for xbox soon :P , some preinstalled shit that eats up your memory while you're playing...
Just look at xbox's controller- it has the worst design..and the other one,the newer- its just a blatant immitation of playstation's (only done poorly)

Nitendo and sony should not let m$ buy their people and steal their art to ruin it- this madness should stop..

but yeah,sony deservses it for putting on the market so high prices of their games


pc gaming is sooo owned by consoles, but you guys are too cheap to realize it. =D Good,memorable,original games come out on consoles,they come out in japan mostly, and that pisses you off

consoles are computers,only that they have original hardware and innovation which makes them so fascinating... and xbox is not a console- its a dull pc,soon to come out with winderz preinstalled and all the shit you already have on your pc.
Heck, pc gaming sells that piece of crap called winderz..if they are not greedy enough to ruin the fun of those "other" games,they just wouldnt be microsoft


what a gay opinion

[sakuravs]

Either you have a weak pc, or you dont like to play games on it... OR, you live in a different world were pc gaming sucks

True...It's the PC gaming industry that drive the hardware industry, which, in turn, shaping the consoles of the future.

[kingx11]

^^^^
did'nt atari and the consoles in the 70's start the whole home video gaming thing??

so pc owns the consoles a lot

[Kyokugen Master]

pc gaming is sooo owned by consoles, but you guys are too cheap to realize it.

Cheap... as a poor person, let me say that hardcore PC gaming is a masochistically expensive hobby to maintain. In fact, PC gaming is starting to suck because of how much cash it takes to make a currently $1,000 PC run a game that a $400 360 (because of actual optimization and polish) runs just fine. Between that and the growing Xbox live community... it's not looking good for online PC gaming. (well, besides MMO & RTS games & emulation)

With that said.... Keyboards pwn noob sticks. Any disciplined RTS players know that calling Halo a "competitive" multiplayer game is a laugh.

[Kitee]

So um... what are the majority of the games on PC nowadays? RTS, MMO and FPS games?

[Barrbarr]

PC will always have one thing that consoles never have never had, and will never have for the forseeable future: fully user created content.

Where are the user created maps for FPSs? Where are the hundreds of mods created for RPGs like Oblivion? Where are the total conversion projects? Oh right, they don't exist on consoles, only on PCs. The only thing consoles get even remotely resembling new content is DLC, which is miniscule, takes a million years to come out and you have to pay for it.

This is but one of the many reasons why PC games are superior. Others include superior hardware, customizable controls and many other adjustable options.

People say consoles are computers. Sure, except that they're computers that don't let you play certain games, all games that do appear for them are subject to the "approval" of the console makers, and they don't let you modify or create anything.

[Sayaka]

As much as I love my PC, I don't use it much for gaming. Most of the games I've seen don't interest me at all. I personally love the games on consoles (Guilty Gear: Accent Core, Odin Sphere, Xenosaga III, etc).


Sure, except that they're computers that don't let you play certain games...

Computers have their own games, consoles have theirs as well. Take for example the game of the topic: Final Fantasy XIII. It's improbable the game will reach the PC shelves. As great as the customization can be for a game, I prefer not to change anything in a console game I play.

[Jona87]

PC gaming = Nude Mods

PC gaming > Console gaming

End of Discussion. Now move on children. Come on come on.

[Kerii]

Now on PC as well:

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_e30802_home.html :p

[Littledgn]

You think Microsoft might "ask" for it to be Vista only or something?


Previously, the publisher released its online game, Final Fantasy XII, on Xbox 360 and PC.
I thought it was 11, not 12?

[Kerii]

You think Microsoft might "ask" for it to be Vista only or something?Probably going to pull some shit about how it's only possible on Vista and DirectX 10, despite the fact that neither console meets DX10 hardware requirements.

And the masses will probably believe it and sit there with a dumb stare if asked whether they understand the difference between split and unified shaders.

[Chevreuse]

Now on PC as well:

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_e30802_home.html :p
"On the first day of the show, the Japanese game publisher announced that Final Fantasy XIII is coming to PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 (in Europe and North America only) and PC."

As much as I love to play FFXIII on PC, I still have doubts for it to be coming on PC. Not to be nosy but what part of the show did I miss? Never heard that SE announced it on PC... (And nzone seems to have mistaken the last sentence bit about FFXII, should be FFXI).

[Eelcire]

I don't remember S-E announcing FFXIII for the PC; while the title is being developed on the PC (as that is where the Crystal Tools are), the title itself wasn't being released on PC. However, The Last Remnant was announced for Games for Windows at E3.

Final Fantasy VII and VIII were first played on the PC for me, as I didn't have a PlayStation at the time. Edios handled the publishing if I remember correctly. A PC version of FFXIII is certainly a possibility (I wonder what the demand is for JRPGs for PC gaming?)

[kingx11]

^^^^^
those ff7-8 on PC were peace of junk they broke on everybody until square released many patches to fix it and they barely fixed it

and ff13 on PC is like shooting 360 version in the heart , people who want it on 360 will wait for the PC version for better gfx or they could switch to ps3 since everybody is used to play it on ps3

[Eelcire]

Actually I never had any issues while playing either VII or VIII on the PC (never needed any patches), though I do remember certain video cards playing the FMVs upside down along with other issues.

I'll be picking it for 360 when released (probably get whatever SE or CE they have).

[Sayaka]

Seems like there was a misunderstanding on nzone's part.


On the first day of the show, the Japanese game publisher announced that Final Fantasy XIII is coming to PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 (in Europe and North America only) and PC.

Article was probably during the time of E3 and FFXIII was announced for XBOX 360. There aren't any other sources about it being on PC. Correct me if I'm wrong. The journalist sounds like he didn't know what he was writing (refer to FFXII mistake).

[Strathdor]

Meh don't really care if its on the xbox 360. I'm still going to buy it for the PS3. All it means is SE gets more money and can make better games because of the bigger income they will be making.

[Sarcastic]

Actually I never had any issues while playing either VII or VIII on the PC (never needed any patches), though I do remember certain video cards playing the FMVs upside down along with other issues.
FF8 was a bit buggy, but FF7 was fine. The bad thing is that both games were optimized for Voodoo graphic cards. So, if you didn't have any the battles got quite slowly then.

Other issues weren't experienced by me.


As to FF13, if I touch it then most likely on PS3 only. So far I still play PS2 games only, since the number of great RPG's that have to be finished still big with me on this system. ^_^
For the time being I don't need any next gen console.

[cyress8]

Seems like there was a misunderstanding on nzone's part.



Article was probably during the time of E3 and FFXIII was announced for XBOX 360. There aren't any other sources about it being on PC. Correct me if I'm wrong. The journalist sounds like he didn't know what he was writing (refer to FFXII mistake).
Truly could have been a mishap on his part, but with the need to multiplatform to make a good profit is the way of the world for these companies nowadays or make a damn MMO which is becoming too main stream.

[solblade007]

YES!

I can actually play the game now :D

[Ragnax]

FF8 was a bit buggy, but FF7 was fine.

'A bit buggy'? FF8's PC version had some pretty wacked out bugs happening, such as the randomly disappearing and reappearing Triple Triad cards.

They also used a non-standardised texture coordinate offset. That lead to all the world map textures looking like a checkerboard, unless you dove into DirectX's Direct3D settings and provided an additional 3 unit offset. (That ofcourse broke texture alignment in all your other applications...)

Another beautiful one is one of the event scenes in the Balamb Garden library leading to an unavoidable lockup. Said event is mandatory as well, iirc.

Then there's the whole thing with GeForce cards requiring a 'special' upgrade patch, because if you used the regular patch, black lines would start weaving through everything. (Look up what texture clamping means and you'll understand why.) That in itself is not too bad, except for the fact that said 'special' patchs detected GF1 cards and GF1 cards only. If you had a (at the time brand new) GF2 card, you were stuck with those black lines period.


As for FF7 'being fine'; bullshit!
There's aforementioned issues with FMVs being played upside down (or simply not playing at all), which likely is due to the code that has to talk to the DirectShow API being implemented all wrong.

Then there's the fact that on any OS running the NT kernel, you'll get crashes during the Chocobo races segments. Why? Because some idiot left bad memory pointers in that part of the game that are used to try and read random memory outside the memory space windows has assigned to the game. (This is probably some really fucked up way to grab a set of random numbers, which Square used to do all the time to produce white noise audio in SNES games.) While the win9x kernel will make little problem out of reading said memory, the NT kernel won't allow it.

The most beatiful WTF of all is the fact that FF7 PC has no frame limiter during 3D mini games, including mandatory story-driven ones. Try doing the highway chase on a modern PC and be amazed at it being over in 1 second flat.

[ViperXtreme]

looks like its not gonna be on PC afterall hehe, the first article was suspicious enough...
http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/25/square-rubbishes-ffxiii-on-pc-claims/



Despite a slew of reports “confirming” Final Fantasy XIII for Windows in the past 24 hours, Square Enix has told VG247 this morning that nothing of the sort is planned.

“We have no current plans to release Final Fantasy XIII for PCs,” said a company rep.

The chatter appears to have arisen from the fact Square devs said the game was being developed on PCs after the 360 reveal in Microsoft’s E3 press conference, seemingly to explain that porting the game to the console is easy meat.

Read the Square statement again. See?

[Chevreuse]

^I knew it was too good to be true.

[Sarcastic]

'A bit buggy'? FF8's PC version had some pretty wacked out bugs happening, such as the randomly disappearing and reappearing Triple Triad cards.
Didn't experience that one.


They also used a non-standardised texture coordinate offset. That lead to all the world map textures looking like a checkerboard, unless you dove into DirectX's Direct3D settings and provided an additional 3 unit offset. (That ofcourse broke texture alignment in all your other applications...)
I remember that one had to change something in the graphic card settings. However, this didn't affect any other application on my comp back then.


Another beautiful one is one of the event scenes in the Balamb Garden library leading to an unavoidable lockup. Said event is mandatory as well, iirc.
Quite wrong. For all I know the game would only lock up later in the game if one destroys that spider-like robot somewhere at the beginning of the game.
Granted, this a major annoying bug.




As for FF7 'being fine'; bullshit!....
Excuse me? That's my opinion because I didn't experience any of the problems that you mentioned regarding FF7. And I finished the game several times.

So for me it was fine, okay?

Perhaps you had just a crappy system? ^___^

[Drakron]

Quite wrong?

There is a bug that the prevents the Garden Attack event from trigger and I know because I experienced it.

Only way to bypass it would be using a game save editor to force the event.

Also why are you defending it ... you know the PC version of FF VII and FF VIII were ports done by EA? no wonder half of it was broken ...

PS: Never use "since I did not experienced, it does not happen" defense ... the EA FF PC ports are well known from having many issues.

[Sarcastic]

Also why are you defending it ... you know the PC version of FF VII and FF VIII were ports done by EA? no wonder half of it was broken ...

PS: Never use "since I did not experienced, it does not happen" defense ... the EA FF PC ports are well known from having many issues.
I was defending my position, since my statement had been called "bullshit". Also, the ports were not done by EA but Eidos. At least that applies to the versions I had.
And just because everyone is ranting about the games it doesn't mean that I will join blindly. I won't complain about problems that I didn't have.

Apart from that, where did I say that the issues described by Ragnax do not happen since I didn't experienced them?
I'm wondering where you read that. I wrote that I didn't experienced those bugs and thus the game was fine for me. I was talking in my behalf. Not more and not less.

[Atachi]

Also, the ports were not done by EA but Eidos.Actually both of you are right (or wrong - depending how you want to say it ^^):

FF7 : Eidos
FF8 : EA

[Sarcastic]

Actually both of you are right (or wrong - depending how you want to say it ^^):

FF7 : Eidos
FF8 : EA
http://i21.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/00/57/2c5d_1.JPG

Well, my version of FF8 was by Eidos. ^_^

[Atachi]

http://i21.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/00/57/2c5d_1.JPG

Well, my version of FF8 was by Eidos. ^_^strange...

7: http://pc.ign.com/objects/002/002301.html
8: http://pc.ign.com/objects/011/011737.html

well... it could be, that EA published in NA and Eidos in EU, but can't verify that

[Sayaka]

According to GameFAQs:
*search results are for PC versions

Final Fantasy VII Eidos Interactive 05/31/98 US

Final Fantasy VIII Eidos Interactive 12/31/99 US
Final Fantasy VIII SquareSoft 03/23/00 JP


According to wikipedia for Final Fantasy VIII:

Publisher(s)
JP Square
NA Square Electronic Arts
PAL SCE Europe (PlayStation)
EU Eidos Interactive (Windows)

Square EA published the PS version while Eidos did the PC port--is what I'm seeing.

[kingx11]

who cares the game was a peice of crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBCFUp5njFk&feature=related

[Sarcastic]

who cares the game was a peice of crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBCFUp5njFk&feature=related
Tsts, the adaption of the US version was obviously not well done. That doesn't change the fact that FF8 is a great game IMHO.


@Sayaka

Thanks a lot for the info. ^_^

[solblade007]

looks like its not gonna be on PC afterall hehe, the first article was suspicious enough...
http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/25/square-rubbishes-ffxiii-on-pc-claims/

:mad:

noooooooooooo

[cyress8]

:mad:

noooooooooooo
Don't worry it will not be a good game because of the fact it isn't for PC :D (Hell yeah, I'm a cocky PC user)

[Bloodcrave]

http://www.n4g.com/events_e32008/NewsCom-176585.aspx?CT=1

i have no idea if this is true, just posting something which i don't think has been posted yet

edit:http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168724

ok i'm confused o_O;

[Xeroz]

I'd be willing to bet that it gets released on PS3 at a later date... like after it drops to >40 bucks and the exclusivity contract with microsoft runs its course.

Just imagine what Microsoft had to give SE for this contract... A lot i'll bet.

Oh well... hell i shouldn't worry about it, i still have yet to play FF XII.

[Maverick007]

Looks like the release of the game is going to be pushed back because of the X360 version...


n the video, director Motomu Toriyama didn't beat around the bush when Nomura asked him questions about the 360 FFXIII. Starting off, he reconfirmed that, "We haven't changed the direction of the development. We're making the PS3 version first, and then porting to the 360 later." That means that since the game will be released simultaneously on both platforms in North America and Europe, the PS3 release will be held back in those territories until the 360 version is complete.

Furthermore, Toriyama also revealed that, as of July 29, his team hasn't yet received the tools needed to begin work on the Xbox 360 version of FFXIII. "I'm telling them to not think about the Xbox 360 right now," he said. "We can think about it after the development kits arrive."

The designer also reassured PS3 owners that the game's quality would not suffer due to the 360 port. "We aren't going to change any specifications [of FFXIII] because of the multi-platform announcement," he declared. "Right now, we're fully concentrating on the PS3 version."
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6195345.html

::shakes fist up in the air:: KHAN!!!

[Whoaness]

http://i37.tinypic.com/ape8lk.jpg

[Drakron]

Looks like the release of the game is going to be pushed back because of the X360 version...


Right because they are making the game IN ENGLISH after all ...

:rolleyes:

[Maverick007]

^-^ I didn't know that the localization of a game actually takes longer than making a version of a game of which they do not have the development kits for...

Furthermore, Toriyama also revealed that, as of July 29, his team hasn't yet received the tools needed to begin work on the Xbox 360 version of FFXIII. "I'm telling them to not think about the Xbox 360 right now," he said. "We can think about it after the development kits arrive."
EDIT ADDED: If that's the case...then DAMN!! Hire some more translators you greedy bastards...
EDIT ADDED...again: (Personal Opinion) They should just have a separate team start working on the X360 version right when they get the kits...

[Drakron]

You can check how long did it takes Square Enix to localize the game ... or I can help you and give FF XII release dates.

Jp: 03/16/06
USA: 10/31/06
EU: 02/23/07

Also in case you are wondering the FF XIII demo is supposed to come out in March with Advent Children Blu-Ray so FF XIII is not going to come out until 09.

[Maverick007]

Slightly good point (although I already know that info)...but...

Do you personally know how long the X360 version will take to develop?? Because I sure don't... They keep on blabbering on how their "Crystal Tools" engine supports the X360, but if that's the case, shouldn't they have the X360 development kits in the first place??

I only know ports that have went from the X360 to the PS3 like BioShock and Lost Planet, and both of those took a full year of development to make ports on the PS3 (and as the case with BioShock, they didn't work on the PS3 version until the X360 version was finished almost the same situation that the X360 version of Final Fantasy XIII is going to be in)... http://www.videogamer.com/news/18-07-2008-8862.html

Considering that there is no game that I know of that was first on the PS3 and then ported on the X360 after the PS3 release, as well as the size of the game (this is a JRPG after all). We have currently no idea on how long this version of the game is going to be in development. But I am confident that it's going to be more than the "less than 7 Month" targeted goal/localization time that they have set for themselves at their E3 Conference this year.

[tenjouten]

If they just switch over the Metal Gear Solid series over to Xbox360, then I would DEFINITELY buy it.

[Drakron]

Slightly good point (although I already know that info)...but...

Well the development is being made on PCs, the code is then made to run in the PS3 and Xbox 360 (it could also work on the Wii and Windows).

So after they are done its just a question of porting the code to run on the Xbox 360.

They know because they do have Xbox 360 development kits, they are simply in use and in case you did not know there is a MMORPG for the Xbox360/PS3/Windows in development code named "Rapture" that uses Crystal Tools.

Another thing you have to keep in mind is Xbox 360 to PS3 is not the same as PS3 to Xbox 360, its easier to port a PS3 game to the Xbox 360 that the other way around and we know that because multiplataform games switched to PS3 lead development to reduce development time.

[Psycho Le Cemu]

If they just switch over the Metal Gear Solid series over to Xbox360, then I would DEFINITELY buy it.

And judging by interviews, Kojima will never make that happen.

[Maverick007]

^-^ So...they're they're taking a priority making an MMORPG instead of using it on their biggest cash cow?? (Also considering that this game is most likely going to be using their "Crystal Tools" engine as well. EDIT ADDED: http://www.psu.com/GDC--Square-Enix-announces-Crystal-Tools-News--a0002847-p0.php) ...If that's the case...WTF are you thinking Square!!

EDIT ADDED: Seriously, just get the "porting" of the X360 version done and over with to ensure that this game is going to release in the "other territories" on time without any quality issues (in terms of graphics and sound), so you can only work on the localization stuff and get to work on other titles faster.

And also, yes I know it's easier to port a game from the PS3 to the X360 and not Vice-Versa, but I don't think that it's going to take them "less than 7 months" (the targeted date they want to finish it by) to port game and optimize it for the X360 system.

{Note: This is following the situation that they won't start the X360 "Porting" until after the PS3 initial release.}

EDIT ADDED: We can continue blabbering on about this situation for months/years until the game finally gets out. Whenever that will be... So until then I will continue to believe that this game is going to be held back because of the X360 version, unless the game does come out before Square-Enix's target time of "less than 7 months" after the initial Japan release, if that's the case well geez I was wrong... So unless there is more information on what the hell is going on inside of Square-Enix, my thoughts about this situation will continue to be the same.

Besides, all that we have been doing for the past hour or 2 is recycling information that has already been stated in this forum over and over again.

[Kanatana]

I heard the following attachment is the newly designed box and boxart for the XBOX360 version. Confirm/Deny?

[Sayaka]

That means they get a cool box and art on 20 CDs.

[Drakron]

^-^ So...they're they're taking a priority making an MMORPG instead of using it on their biggest cash cow?? (Also considering that this game is most likely going to be using their "Crystal Tools" engine as well. ...If that's the case...WTF are you thinking Square!!


"Rapture" have been in development since 2005, hardly new ... and the fact its still have no name indicates its still on early stages so there is no priority for it.

You can believe the game will be held up but I live on PAL territory, I am used to about a year delay from its Jp release to the EU release when it comes to Square Enix.

As a matter of fact is Square Enix is committed to honor the simultaneous NA/EU release then the EU localization is more likely that will delay the game release that the "Xbox 360 port".

[RocKM]

you can't complain about delay's unless you live in AU =P And thats a fact seeing as not only does AU have to wait for it to leave Japan and NA we also have to wait to get released from EU to reach here as well (add another 6-10 months if were lucky and it manages to reach us)

Which i find a bit funny as the game has to literally travel around the world first in terms of release xD Anyway thats just drifting off topic xD

[S&T Kawaii Love]

man I hate those xboxy fanboys and halo retards. FF dies here. Nintendo please kill of billies box lolz. Well I guess it's only PC H Gaming for me now.

[Maverick007]

"Rapture" have been in development since 2005, hardly new ... and the fact its still have no name indicates its still on early stages so there is no priority for it.

You can believe the game will be held up but I live on PAL territory, I am used to about a year delay from its Jp release to the EU release when it comes to Square Enix.

As a matter of fact is Square Enix is committed to honor the simultaneous NA/EU release then the EU localization is more likely that will delay the game release that the "Xbox 360 port".

^-^ I remember reading somewhere when the former "White Engine" was announced as a multi-platform engine it was because of their new MMORPG. Grrr...it also doesn't help that I hate MMORPGs with the vengeance. (EDIT ADDED: http://www.psu.com/Square-Enixs-White-Engine-is-cross-platform-News--a1252-p0.php#comments)

And also...I never recalled them saying anything about have a NA/EU simultaneous release, only the fact that the X360 and PS3 versions will release at the same time in the EU and NA regions. Unless I totally missed something...

EDIT ADDED: Found some confirmation about the whole NA/EU Timing thing...

The North American version will ship before the European one, most likely, because of language issues. Kitase continued, "As for the timing between the U.S. and Europe we will try to make it as close as possible. Also, the localization for the U.S. and Europe, we will try to expedite as much as possible, make it much faster than the previous cases."
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19413

EDIT ADDED: But yeah... I really do feel bad for you PAL "region"-ers when it comes to video game releases. You guys always get the short end of the stick...

[ForteAnly]

If they just switch over the Metal Gear Solid series over to Xbox360, then I would DEFINITELY buy it.

Kojima would die first before that ever happens.

[kingx11]

^^^^^^^^
if he did'nt create (kojima production) back in the day Konami would send the game head first to 360 , it's not about kojima 100% it's about contracts and the deals the goes on desk tops

[Graywolf]

http://i37.tinypic.com/ape8lk.jpg

LOL

They should make a comic with Her divorce with Nintendo and her taking Cloud away. :P and one with Square and Enix doing the fusion dance. :P

[Bloodcrave]

that comic is kinda wrong since ff13 is goin to both console, the comic makes it as if it's an xbox exclusive :P

[VoiceofTheNight]

The main problem with Ps3 is they don't have any exclusive games.
It's like sony doesn't care.

Actually a couple months ago Square said that it was not gonna be Ps3 exclusive.

As for Metal Gear i've heard rumors that it'll be on xbox in 12-14 months.

[Whoaness]

The main problem with Ps3 is they don't have any exclusive games.
It's like sony doesn't care.

Actually a couple months ago Square said that it was not gonna be Ps3 exclusive.

As for Metal Gear i've heard rumors that it'll be on xbox in 12-14 months.
I dunno about you, but Uncharted, Motorstorm, Resistance, Warhawk, Folklore all seem quite exclusive to me.

[VoiceofTheNight]

I didn't mean "any" i meant very few good ones.
Uncharted wasn't worth playing.
Motorstorm almost made me vomit.
Resisitance is a weak version of Gears of War
WarHawk... No Comment
And i can honestly say i've never even heard of Folklore.


Kojima would die first before that ever happens.
He just isn't making enough money of the Ps3 version so i think he'd rather let it go the Xbox then have wasted years of his life on making very little money.

[Tigerofthewind]

Don't bother, fanboys will be fanboys and whoaness has proven to be the biggest one on these forums meaning his street cred is 0 or infinite since he "can actually make games".

What's the point of this thread now anyways? The hype/rage behind the "lost exclusive" is gone so it's just turned into arguments between 360 fans and PS3 fans. Someone please close this.

[Whoaness]

I didn't mean "any" i meant very few good ones.
Uncharted wasn't worth playing.
Motorstorm almost made me vomit.
Resisitance is a weak version of Gears of War
WarHawk... No Comment
And i can honestly say i've never even heard of Folklore.
LOL!

Uncharted is PS3 game of the year 2007.
Motorstorm won numerous awards for best driving game beating Forza 2.
Resistance is one of the top contenders for best FPS this gen.
Folklore is a really unique experience.

And I haven't even touched on the PSN games.

So what's exclusive on the 360? Nothing. It's all going to PC or PS3.

[Kitee]

I didn't mean "any" i meant very few good ones.
Uncharted wasn't worth playing imo.
Motorstorm almost made me vomit in my experience.
Resisitance is a weak version of Gears of War imo
WarHawk... No Comment
And i can honestly say i've never even heard of Folklore.

There, fixed it for you. Otherwise, it's just plain ps3 bashing, and we have more than enough of that here already.

[VoiceofTheNight]

"Uncharted is PS3 game of the year 2007."
The fact that that weak game (IMO) won best PS3 game of 2007 just proves my point.

"Motorstorm won numerous awards for best driving game beating Forza 2."
Awards from Who (Don't say some weak junk like gamespy)

"Resistance is one of the top contenders for best FPS this gen".
Yeah your right it's number 3 right after Halo and Gears of War...

"Folklore is a really unique experience".
Still haven't heard anything about it. Drinking a cup of thumb tacks is a really unique experience too but I would never pay $50 to do that either.

"And I haven't even touched on the PSN games".
I know... No one has touched them because they suck (IMO)

So your really gonna put up these weak games (IMO) against Halo, Gears, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 2, Bioshock, Orange Box.

Not to mention upcoming games *coughFable 2cough*

I mean sure you could say Metal Gear (I even gave you a free one) but It's a pointless argument because you saying "It's a Really Unique Gaming Experience" means nothing compare to widely acclaimed Microsoft Games.

For Moderation Reasons everything with IMo next to it was merely put there to keep it civil. Even though it says IMO it's actually a Cold-Hard fact.

[Whoaness]

"Uncharted is PS3 game of the year 2007."
The fact that that weak game (IMO) won best PS3 game of 2007 just proves my point.

"Motorstorm won numerous awards for best driving game beating Forza 2."
Awards from Who (Don't say some weak junk like gamespy)

"Resistance is one of the top contenders for best FPS this gen".
Yeah your right it's number 3 right after Halo and Gears of War...

"Folklore is a really unique experience".
Still haven't heard anything about it. Drinking a cup of thumb tacks is a really unique experience too but I would never pay $50 to do that either.

"And I haven't even touched on the PSN games".
I know... No one has touched them because they suck (IMO)

So your really gonna put up these weak games (IMO) against Halo, Gears, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 2, Bioshock, Orange Box.

Not to mention upcoming games *coughFable 2cough*

I mean sure you could say Metal Gear (I even gave you a free one) but It's a pointless argument because you saying "It's a Really Unique Gaming Experience" means nothing compare to widely acclaimed Microsoft Games.

For Moderation Reasons everything with IMo next to it was merely put there to keep it civil. Even though it says IMO it's actually a Cold-Hard fact.
Uncharted's prowess in realism surpasses Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect, but really, what does 360 have exclusively? All three of those games are on PC. Uncharted is a true exclusive. Same with Resistance.

Motorstorm was awarded best driving game by the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences at the D.I.C.E. (Design, Innovate, Communicate, Entertain) Summit. The most prestigious place to get game awards.

As for PSN titles, Super Stardust HD, the Pixeljunk series, Flow, Echochrome are huge hits that are truly exclusive.

Most of 360's biggest arcades games like N+ and Geometry Wars have been ported whereever they can.

Let me say again, Mass Effect, Gears, Bioshock are already available on PC. Halo 3, Fable 2, Halo Wars, and every other MS published game will inevitably be on PC.

Oh yeah, online for Playstation 3 is free.

[VoiceofTheNight]

I knew you were gonna bring up that PC crap. Xbox and PC go hand in hand. By exclusive i hope you knew i meant could play on PS3. Not counting Pc games is pointless because Either way it's on Xbox and not on Ps3 so I could play online games with Pc users and Xbox users. It's no skin off my back that PC users can play Microsoft games. In a comparison between Xbox and Ps3, Pc games should be a Moot point.

Just show you don't keep bringing up Pc thinking that you have a solid case I'll restate PS3 has very few "Good" games that aren't on 360. Is that better?

As for Online - You get what you pay for. The only online games for Ps3 are just ports of Xbox games anyways. And with the money you'll save from buying a Xbox instead of an Ps3 you would have more than enough to pay for online till the next microsoft console comes out (2010)

As for arcade titles - It's understandable that Ps3 fans are looking forward to arcade title because it's the only thing they can afford after taking out a second mortgage to buy the console. Xbox arcade games are just that, Classic Arcade games not some junk some guy threw together in his basement. Lets look at it like this Soul Calibur or Echochrome, Sonic or Flow. I'd have to go with Soulcalibur and Sonic instead of two games that no one ever heard of.

It's a known fact that at the point that you say that Uncharted is better than Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect that you've become a full blown PS3 fanboy.

[DoNotPause]

Haha, I agree with Kitee.
Too many people these days are getting prejudice against PS3 because of what they read on the internet.
VoiceofTheNight you even played any of those games? If not, how can you support your arguement?

Someone is a Xbox fanboy here, calling someone a PS3 fanboy...how ironic....

Maybe Sony need to pull a Microsoft stun by calling PS3 something else? XD XD XD

[VoiceofTheNight]

Both my best friends have Ps3's and i've played every one of those games (except folklore) (and the arcade games)
They were Ok but nothing special.

Just so you know a Fanboy is someone who likes "Something" without objectively looking at any other "Thing".

I have a PS2 and over 25 games for it, a Wii, a Ds and I've objectively played every game I bashed (Except folklore) so I obviously can't dislike sony. It's just that the slacked on the Ps3 soo much in the games department it's not worth the money.
By the time that Ps3 gets some worthwhile games the Next Xbox will be out so it's a lost cause.

[xiaoqiao]

i think i know why..but i'm not sure if anyone had posted it here already..i've heard that sony lost 3.6 billion dollars because of ps3 for its high selling for its first selling now ps3's price got down very very much but it cannot chase the money lost...awww!

[VoiceofTheNight]

I've heard that too. There aren't enough Ps3 out there for developer to make any money.

[DK3411]

Uncharted's prowess in realism surpasses Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect, but really, what does 360 have exclusively? All three of those games are on PC. Uncharted is a true exclusive. Same with Resistance.

Just because the developers were too lazy to port it over to Windows doesn't mean anything.


Motorstorm was awarded best driving game by the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences at the D.I.C.E. (Design, Innovate, Communicate, Entertain) Summit. The most prestigious place to get game awards.

Blah blah blah, brag brag brag...


Let me say again, Mass Effect, Gears, Bioshock are already available on PC. Halo 3, Fable 2, Halo Wars, and every other MS published game will inevitably be on PC.

Which is a given... I thought everyone else here could see that coming from a mile away.


Oh yeah, online for Playstation 3 is free.

So is Xbox Live Silver, genius.

[Drakron]

Judging by the video, development on FFXIII seems to be in full swing, and the remaining character designs are on schedule to be finalized in October. The voice cast has already been chosen, and it will be partially announced at the 2008 Tokyo Game Show, also in October.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6195345.html

Funny how tabloid journalism have reached gaming journalism ... then again, what better way to get clicks that with a headline to attracts fanboys?

[Whoaness]

I knew you were gonna bring up that PC crap. Xbox and PC go hand in hand. By exclusive i hope you knew i meant could play on PS3. Not counting Pc games is pointless because Either way it's on Xbox and not on Ps3 so I could play online games with Pc users and Xbox users. It's no skin off my back that PC users can play Microsoft games. In a comparison between Xbox and Ps3, Pc games should be a Moot point.

Just show you don't keep bringing up Pc thinking that you have a solid case I'll restate PS3 has very few "Good" games that aren't on 360. Is that better?

As for Online - You get what you pay for. The only online games for Ps3 are just ports of Xbox games anyways. And with the money you'll save from buying a Xbox instead of an Ps3 you would have more than enough to pay for online till the next microsoft console comes out (2010)

As for arcade titles - It's understandable that Ps3 fans are looking forward to arcade title because it's the only thing they can afford after taking out a second mortgage to buy the console. Xbox arcade games are just that, Classic Arcade games not some junk some guy threw together in his basement. Lets look at it like this Soul Calibur or Echochrome, Sonic or Flow. I'd have to go with Soulcalibur and Sonic instead of two games that no one ever heard of.

It's a known fact that at the point that you say that Uncharted is better than Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect that you've become a full blown PS3 fanboy.
Uh the only game that has cross servers online is Shadowrun. Way to go with that fact, champ. They don't go hand-in-hand. PC games will always be superior to the 360.

I got what I paid for. Free online for Resistance, Motorstorm, Warhawk, Metal Gear Online... wait, you said the games are ports of Xbox games. ~chuckle~ And what's Xbox Live's most active played game? Call of Duty 4, which is being played on the PS3 and PC for FREE.

Uncharted offers a new and unique experience that isn't bald space marines going off to save a planet with some shitty story slapped on. "Finish the fight!" "But your ending sucks!"


By the time that Ps3 gets some worthwhile games the Next Xbox will be out so it's a lost cause.
A new Xbox would be a lost cause, indeed. PS3 won't need a new system since it has a long lifespan planned for it.


I've heard that too. There aren't enough Ps3 out there for developer to make any money.
Oh 14 million PS3s aren't enough? A year late and it's only 6 million behind the Xbox 360. It's gaining and the Xbox 360 has nothing else unique to offer.


Just because the developers were too lazy to port it over to Windows doesn't mean anything.

So is Xbox Live Silver, genius.
Naughty Dog is completely loyal to Sony. Why would they port anything to PC is beyond me. You answer that for me. Why would a console developer port their game to PC when it's doing so well on PS3?

Silver doesn't let you play online, genius.

[Maverick007]

::rolls eyes:: Oh boy...another thread went into a God Forsaken console fanboy pissing match...

Basically it will go on like this...

::in whining 12 year old voices::
"Ohhhh!! But ::insert X360 exclusive shooter:: is better than ::insert PS3 exclusive shooter::!!"

"But Noooo!! ::insert PS3 exclusive shooter:: is better than ::insert X360 exclusive shooter::"

"Ohhh Yeah!! But ::insert X360 exclusive RPG:: is better than ::insert PS3 exclusive RPG::!!"

"But Noooo!! ::insert PS3 exclusive RPG:: is better than ::insert X360 exclusive RPG::"

"Ohhh Yeah!! But ::insert X360 upcoming exclusive:: will be better than ::insert PS3 upcoming exclusive::!!"

"But Noooo!! ::insert X360 upcoming exclusive:: will be better than ::insert PS3 upcoming exclusive::"

...on forever and ever...till all the consoles die and the PC will emerge victorious... ::cough cough:: Just kidding...

Why am I even talking about this?? Get back on topic people!!

This is about "Final Fantasy XIII" not any other game or which console is better, so if you cannot add on to the conversation regarding "Final Fantasy XIII", then go leave and create another thread you minus well call it "Console E-Penis Wars"....

[BOiNG!]

Didn't I warned everyone here before not to go off topic? Stupid SONY fantards and PS3 bashers, please STFU. This is the second time I post a warning notice regarding this thread being steer off topic, don't make me close this thread again. I do not want to see anymore off topic posts after mine. CAPISCE?!

[Haloman]

*And I think to myself, what a wonderful world*

[cyress8]

On topic - why hasn't the exclusivity moved over to the pc and wii? I believe that once they reach those people they will have utmost dominance of the gaming world? (Yes, Im trying to stay on topic for a thread that has been milked and should die now =P I'm weird like that, yes?)

[Drakron]

On topic - why hasn't the exclusivity moved over to the pc and wii?

In the Wii case its hardware, just because they can make the code run on the Wii does not mean it will run well or at all.

In PC case I think its a lot due to how neither FF VII or FF VIII PC ports sold well, also its not a good idea to go too much multiplataform since it reduces each version sales and how Square Enix is also not really a PC game developer or publisher.

[Maverick007]

To answer cyress8 on why Final Fantasy XIII is not on the Wii. (I don't need to answer for the PC version since Drakron pointed out the main issue with the PC Version.)

For the Wii: Square-Enix already stated that they wanted to make a Final Fantasy on a next-gen "HD" console... And I also don't think that they'll add the Wii to the Final Fantasy XIII roster since the "Crystal Chronicles" series already has a home there...

[astranagant]

We are talking about FFXIII, right?
this thread has gone faraway from the topic

[Haloman]

People are more worried about the platform in which they are going to play the game than the game itself. This thread, greatest lulz supplier of hongfire :P

[Whoaness]

We are talking about FFXIII, right?
this thread has gone faraway from the topic
No we're not.

If you want to talk about FF13, then make the FF13 thread.
This thread is all about the battle of exclusivity.

Go look at the first page and tell me when someone actually talked about the FF13 content?