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3D Hentai anime should be the new standard?

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  • 3D Hentai anime should be the new standard?

    While I was looking around for more animated p0rn for my current fix I just recently came across the 3d cel shaded title named Batsugun Kanojo. While its not the greatest in hentai, they had outclassed ALL our old beloved hentai anime with stunning sparkly looks alone that 3D cel shading and quality CGI animation has to offer. The animation was smooth and sharp as a pin, characters design was flawless, of course there could have been better camera angles or camera motions But heck, PinkBell pushed damned good job IMO.

    Considering we have so many options now and CG is becoming cheaper and cheaper in the long run I would like to see the more major hentai companies start supporting/hiring/replacing their old 2D themes for the much more polished 3D. You can even find FREE or at most affordable 3D modeling and animation software now (I'm going for DAZ Studio 3 Advanced as it appears to be a very good animation/render program for $149. BTW I've already got the free lower class version which you can get from their site as well as some basic model packages also free.)

    When a guy(or 2+) sitting on his home PC can push out a personal 3D doujin in a few weeks or less like Doll house (Gorgeous character design), Umemaro (Fantastic models, and excellent h-scene movement), Bishop (Thats sister thing was hawt, but had errors in fully animating the characters bodies during the h-scenes) and finally whatever group pushed out Batsugun Kanojo. It appears its time for the big splooge makers like Pink Pinapple, Green Bunny, and Milk need to start applying more into developing full hentais like this.

    I mean it allows the director to do ANYTHING, if you want a cel shade you got it, if you want a realistic character you got it, wanna copy a model give it bigger boobs, or smaller height and so on it can be done and more. What do you folks think?

    Heres hoping for the 3D future of hentai
    Last edited by Darknile77; 11-01-2009, 05:53 PM.

  • #2
    Batsugun Kanojo & Maigaru are great and all, but no, 3D shouldn't be a standard, at least not for h-anime.

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    • #3
      CG 3d animation is at the moment far more intensive in terms of use, and in cost, there needs to be far more artists trained in its use before it cna become the de facto standard for animation. So it still a decade or so off. I still like the charm od hand drawn 2D animation though. The 2d assisted animation looks lifeless some what.
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      • #4
        Hell, no. Leave some 2D goodness around. I like some animation drawn well with hands. You know, variety is the spice of life and stuff. But that isn't to say that I refuse to watch 3D hentai, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with Umemaro's works in the first place. In fact, I think could use some more H-animes with cel-shading.

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        • #5
          Why replace? Both have its own differences.

          And with it being way more expensive to create and less popular then 2D in this industry no way its happening.
          See good quality 3D projects more as a luxury you get to see.

          And thats what? once or twice a year? The rest is crap imo.

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          • #6
            If everyone was throwing down at the level Umemaro is it might sway some but I don't think it will or ever replace 2D
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            • #7
              3D Hentai >> GAME
              2D Hentai >> ANIME

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              • #8
                sorry to say this, but for me, 2d hentai totally out ways 3d hentai. yes even though 3d look better, but out of the few ive seen there are no story line or plot. and yes i really think story line is that important
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                • #9
                  2D... 3D... I say it's all good. It all depends on the talent and imagination of the artists who create it. 3D is becoming more popular these days as the technology is improving and more artists are getting into it. But keep in mind that it takes Umemaro about a whole year to make each of his masterpieces, so I don't believe 2D is going away any time soon.

                  I also think that hand-drawn artwork gives the artist the ability to be more "creative" artistically. For example, those cute drawings of girls with small bodies and huge eyes would look quite weird in CG. That artistic creativity is what I think makes hentai popular. Let's face it: if we want something that just looks realistic, we'd go for live-action porn.

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                  • #10
                    2D and 3D hentai need to co-exist.

                    However, I'll admit that there's a growing problem I've seen with 2D hentai over the years. Lately, the animation companies have been very lazy in both artistic style and frame rates. Whatever happened to hot, decent ones like G-Taste, Lingerie Office, Bible Black, and Foxy Nudes? And am I only to turn to Pixy's Teruaki MURAKAMI for smooth 30 FPS hentai? (For those who don't know, Teruaki MURAKAMI's the duo behind crazy titles such as Taimanin Asagi, Princess 69, Dark Love, and Night Shift Nurse: Ren Nanase.) I'm probably gonna get shot for saying this but I think some of the older hentai from the 90's look a lot better than most of the crap that's out today.

                    As for 3D hentai, there's a steep learning curve to modeling, rendering, and animating. It would probably be expensive for these hentai companies to switch over to a new artistic medium and have to teach their designers the applications. However, in the long run, I believe 3D hentai would be cheaper than 2D hentai simply because with 2D hentai you have to draw a scene frame by frame. That takes too much time and manpower. With 3D hentai, on the other hand, all you need to do is render your models once and then reuse them for any scene. And with "timelines", you don't actually animate your scenes frame by frame but rather you set a "beginning" and an "end" marker in which you want your models to perform an action. It's no wonder that Umemaro is a one-man hentai producer because with 3D animation anyone can do it alone (with time and patience, of course).

                    Don't get me wrong, though, there are pros and cons to both 2D and 3D animation but in the end I don't think it should matter. What matters is that these hentai companies go back and focus on QUALITY, not quantity.

                    Originally posted by yummypie View Post
                    sorry to say this, but for me, 2d hentai totally out ways 3d hentai. yes even though 3d look better, but out of the few ive seen there are no story line or plot. and yes i really think story line is that important
                    That's because no hentai company (as far as I know) has dared to make a standard-length 3D hentai series. All the 3D hentai that you see now are either PC games or short clips.

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                    • #11
                      ^^^ exactly. No large scale H-anime company has really taken the time to do a full length feature. Give DAZ studio (not the best 3D animating program, but good for beginners) a try and you'll find any single CG animator can make a full scene in a week or two and a good team of animators can make a scene or more in a day or less.

                      Also remember that just because its done in 3D CG doesn't mean it has to look realistic. As I said, you can cel shade or texture any 3D model to look exactly like any current 2D hentai. i.e you'd get the exact same smooth animation and character design but more options for angles and dynamic zooms. Storyline always is seperate from graphics so that lies to the writers, not the animators. The Fate/Stay night visual novel could easily have been rendered and played in 3D and still could have achieved a much more interesting effect both visually and storywise.

                      And as IronMouse mentioned its a lot easier in the terms that once you render a full 3D model the only thing one has to do is animate and morph it for different scenes and from different angles which depends on the skills of the animators where as in 2D you have to draw scene to scene (which still uses some computer assitance). 3D always allows for more dynamics and choices for what direction to view items as well.

                      Even some of the 2D hentai carry some CG graphics although not very well planned or animated. Using more 3D animation allows for more quality animation over all instead of some of the uber cheap badly animated hentai and very few quality 2D titles.
                      Last edited by Darknile77; 11-01-2009, 05:54 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Forgot to mention, I don't think many of the H companies are as poor as you might think. p0rn is a billion dollar (maybe more now) and there is never going to be a dip in how much they make.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darknile77 View Post
                          Forgot to mention, I don't think many of the H companies are as poor as you might think. p0rn is a billion dollar (maybe more now) and there is never going to be a dip in how much they make.
                          True, I wouldn't say they're poor either but it seems like these days they're just trying to meet deadlines and not focusing on quality animation anymore. I mean, the choppy framerates alone is as indication of rushed projects in my opinion. This is why I hold so much respect for Pixy's Teruaki MURAKAMI team... they've got like 30 FPS smooth animation in all their films. I just wished their characters were as pretty as the ones from Lingerie Office, for example.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IronMouse View Post
                            However, in the long run, I believe 3D hentai would be cheaper than 2D hentai simply because with 2D hentai you have to draw a scene frame by frame.
                            Actually the days of drawing 2D animation one frame at a time is long gone. Animators have been using computers and "digital ink" for several years now. And usually, the scenes are mostly still images with a partially moving character. (A lot of back-and-forth motion in hentai, if you know what I mean.)

                            But I think you're right about 3D someday becoming cheaper than 2D animation. All the major American animation studios have pretty much abandoned the old ways of 2D in favor of 3D.

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                            • #15
                              2D ftw!
                              This makes it more than 10 characters.

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