You Might Want To Read The Rules Of This Site (especially NEW members)

Forum Rules

What you are about to read are sets of rules that are to be followed while you are within the confines of this site. You are expected to read, understand and follow these rules. Rules are in place to ensure a healthy community. Each and every member is subject to abide the rules of this site.

Rule #1: Create A Thread In The Right Section.

Each section in the forums holds a certain subject to follow. Make sure that the thread you create belongs in the appropriate section. For example, torrent threads are to be placed in torrent forum section, while request threads should be in the request forum section. Threads located in the wrong section will be moved, closed, or deleted on sight depending on the criteria & contents of the particular thread. Any request threads in any wrong forum sections made by junior members will be deleted on sight without warning.

Rule #2: "Forum Flood" Is Not Allowed.

"Forum Flood" means any of the following:

* Two or more consecutive posts in a row on the same thread.
There is an "edit" option for your post, please use the edit function if you want to add, update and/or correct the content of a post on the thread without having to make an additional, superfluous post. An exception to this is when you have reached the limits of a single post which required to be continue on the next post, or you are posting short stories in Creative Corner.

* SPAM (Stupid Posts And Messages)
Replies to threads consisting only of one-liners, smiley icons, witty remarks, nonsenses, "thank you" replies (especially on the torrent section forum), etc. Please put more effort in your posts & try to make them meaningful. Frequent post floodings of identical messages on multiple threads is not allowed. Should you want to spam, visit our IRC channel.

* Unintelligible & unclear posts.
Unintelligible posts will not be entertained and will most likely be deleted on sight. Make sure that your post can easily be read by other members to avoid confusion or misunderstandings. "l33t" or alien (self made) languages are not encouraged to be used on the forums. Please try to make the posts as universally understandable & clear when expressing any ideas, thoughts, or opinions to others. We have a foreign language section should you feel more comfortable using your own native language.

* Creating multiple threads in a short amount of time.
Especially when these threads are deemed irrelevant or redundant to the forums. While we enjoy your enthusiasm at your contribution to the forums, we DO NOT enjoy seeing irrelevant or redundant threads scattered around the forums.

* Creating another thread which is similar to an already existing active thread.
Any existing or redundant threads found will be merged with another existing thread, locked, or deleted, depending on the criteria & contents of the threads. Use the search function as reference for existing threads. If the particular thread is inactive, at least make a reference of it on your first post.

* Showing mass images in a single post.
Please provide thumbnail images, or the URL links instead. Swamping the thread with obscene amounts of images not only slows down the thread, but also provides inconveniences to members viewing it. Tutorials of any kind are an exemption to this rule.

Please use the report button when you find such threads or posts. One of the staffs will take care of it. However, if this is done intentionally with the intent of degrading the forums, members will be subject to a fitting punishment.

Rule #3: Please Show Common Courtesies

* Respect opinions of other members.
There are always multiple sides to an opinion. Show common courtesies to other members' opinions, and they will respect your opinions too. Should you find that a member's opinions contradicts or differs from yours, please do not attack the said member. Criticize the opinion instead, not the member.

* Negative racism remarks are forbidden.
Inflammatory remarks about another's culture, country, religion, or ethnicity intended to incite hatred will not be tolerated. We do not allow threads that have the intent of attacking other peoples, cultures, countries & religions, as it could lead to members attacking each other. We will take note of the actual messages where a member use racial attacks against another member and will act accordingly to issue a suitable form of punishment, preferably a ban.

* Every member is equal to another.
We are a community of equals. Post count, join date, member number, reputation points, number of torrent uploads, and all other such measures are irrelevant. These elements are not important in reflecting who and what you are. Do not boss around other members just because you have higher reps, post counts, uploaded more torrents, etc. If you observe these kind of behaviors/abuses on the forums, please report them to the staffs. The same goes for reputation system abuse. The staffs will investigate & punishment will be dealt with accordingly, based on case by case basis.

Rule #4: Flamings & Flame-Baitings Are Not Tolerated.

"Flaming" generally means "attacking other users" or even harassing any other member of the site. It is any of the following:

* Rudely reprimanding members for breaking rules.
If they (especially new members) need to be pointed to the rules, point them to it, and leave it at that. There is no need to lynch them for it.

* Attacking a member based on his/her opinion.
If you can't accept the opinion of the other member, do not retaliate by insulting the member instead.

* Flame-baits.
Where a member leaves a provoking post intending to create potential flame feedback from other members.

* Flaming Staff in any Form.
Simply put, it is not permitted nor an acceptable practice and will be dealt with swiftly.

Please avoid excessive usage of swearings/cussings. By default, most common English swear/cuss words will be automatically censored. Please do not force edit words to display any swear/cuss words on posts or threads (especially the "F" word).

And those caught purposely avoiding the site's default language censor will be warned and depending on how severe the violation is, appropriate actions will be taken.

Forum threads affected by flame wars or potential flame-baiting posts are subject to thread closure or post deletion without warning. Members not to harass each other anywhere on the site including forum, gallery and personal visitor messaging center. Moderators and Administrators have every jurisdiction to hand out warnings, infractions and bans if members do not co-operate.

Rule #5: Any Forum's Contents Outside Of Hentai Section Must Be Work Safe.

Content on the forums must be work safe outside the hentai section. That means no explicit contents, posted or linked visible images. Images that are generally marked as gross, sick, or offensive in nature will be edited or removed appropriately. Should you want to post it, make sure that appropriate warnings are mentioned in the particular thread shown. Make sure that a warning is indicated CLEARLY in the post when you do post such explicit images or any sites that may be harmful in any way. This also depends on the number of complaints received from members or if it goes against our better judgement, the thread will be removed without prior notice.

Rule #6: Observe Signature & Avatar Guidelines.

Signatures, avatars and personal photos are to be appropriate content for all ages and within our specified limits. Signature limits: 700 pixels in width, 150 pixels in height and 100kb max in combined images overall and/or a maximum 5 lines of text with a font size of 1 is allowed. Invalid signatures can and most likely will be removed without warning.

As a general rule, images revealing private parts (female nipples, penis, etc.) or sexual activities are restricted. There are various levels of "sexually suggestive" images permitted, so evaluation of a member's avatar or signature varies depends on the choice of image used. For texts within the signature, swearings, cussings, insults, or negative remarks are not allowed. If a member still has doubts about the image or text before putting it as avatar or signature, please feel free to PM a staff member for opinion & advice.

Stealing of others' signatures/avatars for your own personal use is strictly prohibited. This will only create confusion. Using a signature with an existing HF member's name on it is also forbidden. If found, please settle it among yourselves peacefully. However, if it still persists, contact a moderator and we will attend to it as seen fit. A warning will be given on the first offense. Succeeding offenses will warrant a fitting punishment, depending on the case.

Links embedded in a signature are only limited within the confines of HF forums or gallery section. Any external links outside of forum found will be removed. We will also remove the signature image if embedded external links are found in the signature image. Only Donor, VIP, Release Group & Staff Members are exempt from this rule.

Rule #7: Site Promotions & Advertisements Are Not Allowed.

Creating a thread with the intent of promoting your own site (or your friend's site) is strictly prohibited. Also, advertisements such as "free iPods, etc." are not allowed. The staff will delete your post on sight. Advertising intentionally in the Gallery is also prohibited.

However this does not mean that you cannot post links to other sites. We do encourage our fellow members and fans to contribute links out of humour, fun, contribution to discussion, or information for those whom it may concern, but yet posting for the sake of advertising will be rewarded with a warning (meaning normal members may not link to other sites in their signature aside images themselves through img tags). Self-created HF groups are also subject to this rule. Should you want to advertise, please notify a staff or moderator for approval. We will also stress that even though such threads are related to HongFire, they are in no way a part/branch/extension of HongFire or anything for that matter. The group has been created and decided of their own accord, not by HongFire.

Donors and VIPs can not have any type of advertisement link(s) in their signature. If we think the link(s) in your signature does not fit our site, we will remove it and leave a note.

Rule #8: Multiple Accounts Are Not Allowed
Creating multiple accounts for a single member is not allowed. There is no need for a member to own multiple accounts for whatever reasons one may have. This will only create a bigger load on our servers, as well as causing confusion among members.

Rule #9: Invasion Of Privacy & Site Hacking Will Not Be Tolerated.

* Any attempts of hacking WILL RESULT IN A PERMANENT BAN.
Do not threaten to hack our site, it will only aggravate the situation. We also consider DoS (Denial Of Service) A SERIOUS OFFENSE.

* Do NOT attempt to guess passwords for accounts that do NOT belong to you.
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* Impersonation of other members, especially the staff, is not allowed.
Account names that looks like one of the staff's names will be removed from the user database. Please avoid using the same avatar, or signature, that resembles other members. Doing so will only create confusion around the forums.

Rule #10: Direct Linking to Downloadable Files.
Guidelines for Direct Downloads:
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    [anime][manga][RAW]... name of material
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Rule #11: Prohibition of Promotion of Pedophilia
There shall be under no circumstances that members are actively, and visibly encouraging pedophilia in the forums. Such behavior is not tolerated in HongFire forums. There shall be no creation of threads openly discussing pedophilia, and there will be no groups created hinting pedophilia, or any for that matter. We consider this offense as serious, and any violators discovered will receive a permanent ban.

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Non-stickied topics that are bumped down the forum pages and ranging from a few weeks to more than a month old should not be bumped.
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In rare cases, moderators may let some topics be bumped but those cases are subject to staff jurisdiction.

NOTICE: Hotlinking Images Etiquette
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once again the internet security topic

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  • once again the internet security topic

    I setting up my old p3 right now, trying to find a good combination of firewall + antivirus + anti spyware combo for safe torrenting.

    then I suddenly noticed all these new weird shit

    Trojan Scanner?
    Rootkit Scanner?
    Intrusion Prevention?

    okay wtf is up with all these stuff?
    I thought antivirus/antispyware could catch rootkits and trojans, and firewall can catch intrusions.

    what do I need for safe torrent station anyway? I used to think antivirus is enough, but then I found out I need firewall ever since xp sp1, then later I found out about anti spyware so I got that too. but now there's all these new shit coming up, how many layers of protection do you really need? I don't wanna end up with 8 layers of garbage when my computer really only need 2~3 layers for torrenting.

    system spec: p3, 512 ram, win 2000, what do I need for safe torrenting?
    Last edited by MuffDiver99; 05-13-2008, 08:58 PM.
    All you need is love, all you want is sex, all you have is porn - some random scribbling in a public bathroom.

  • #2
    lets see, for p3
    1 for all sets

    Kaspersky - not free, new version is too slow for old comp, try v6 or v 5. WEAK trojan and spyware scan
    bitdefender - not free, could be slow
    avast - not free, havent tested it myself
    ZoneAlarm security suite - not free, my favourite

    Just antivirus

    avg - free
    kaspersky - not free, new version is too slow for old comp, try v6 or v 5,WEAK trojan and spyware scan
    bitdefender not free, could be slow
    NOD - weak but consume little resource


    jetico - have free one
    commodo - have free one
    zonealarm - free one is not v.good

    spybot - must have
    Peer Guardian - must have!!

    I use ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite, it uses antivirus engine form Kaspersky and Spyware scanner from CA. Which makes it a good for me...

    It really depends what is your need in the end. If you want some good stuffs thats not going to be free... Infact none of the paid one fits my need completely, so I chose the closest one for me...

    Thats why spybot is a good one as rootkit scanner choice...

    If you want to goto Chinese forum and download Chinese bits, its advised that you use a powerful on access scanner such as bitdefender and kaspersky, because even they FAIL at scanning SOME Trojans... and basically kills your antivirus after that. You will need multiple defensive measures for that.

    In general, it really depends if you wanna do a free on or paid/cracked one.

    But one thing is for sure, you want heavy p2p? spybot search and destroy and peer guardian...
    Teatime from spybot get registry change check which helps in some cases...

    Yeah thats about it...
    Last edited by wingmare; 05-13-2008, 03:59 AM.


    • #3
      peerguardian for p2p
      avg as anitvir
      comodo/sygate as firewall

      about spyware (and malware in general): just think where you click and you're fine. Last time I caught myself a spyware was like 3 years ago. NoSpcript + AdBlock for FF helps to not catch malware while browsing.

      about zonealarm - it still cannot handle many simultaneous connections, bad for p2p. (Last time i tried ZA was few months ago, was the free version though)


      • #4
        Originally posted by ChronoSphere View Post
        peerguardian for p2p
        Don't bother with peerguardian since it's a placebo and the block lists it provides can easily block innocent users (I suggest you look on the subdemon forums in relation to this)


        • #5
          Don't really think pg2 is a placebo... well, w/e. it didn't block anything i didn't want it to block so far.


          • #6
            Muff, where the hell do you surf and torrent to get all these attacks? Is have uTorrent running 24/7 and surf all the time. I only use Avast and no other securtiy software. I have never had any trouble with attacks or spamming IP's. All your problems seem to revolve around your surfing habits or the trackers and peers you use. The only other security I have is my routers hardware firewall. I have never gotten a trojan or virus in the past 10 years of using cable and a router.
            “If Apple made a car would it have windows?"


            • #7
              Hmm, I don't use any anti-virus/firewall/etc... programs, because they can't offer 100% protection, it is mostly depend on how you use the computer. I only use one program name IceSword to manually delete virus/rootkit, and I only get like 2~3 viruses in the last 3 years

              Some tips:
              - Never double click anything unless you sure what it do, especially with exe files.
              - Don't surf suspicious websites

              And if you only use your computer for torrenting, I don't think you will need any protection at all, just close all the ports except the torrent's one.

              Edit: I get those virus because my brother often *double* click his friends USB drivers.
              Last edited by Vyo; 05-13-2008, 06:51 PM.


              • #8
                had it before, its a lame trojan, minor security breach.

                And well you know it hurts sometimes...and it's going to bleed sometimes.


                • #9
                  I come across harmful scripts quit often, but spy sweeper usually picks them up.
                  All you need is love, all you want is sex, all you have is porn - some random scribbling in a public bathroom.


                  • #10
                    Are sure your software is not just picking up false alarms. If you have Heuristic scanning set to sensitive it will flag in code that it does not recognize as a virus. It will even name it by comparing it to the closest match. I have been surfing the web since the days of Modems and bulletin board systems. The only time I got a virus or trojan was way back then. Since the internet has come about I have yet to get either. It just seems odd to me. The way you talk you seem like a magnet for evil code. Which has to have some connection that no one else is doing since we all never get as many bugs as you.
                    “If Apple made a car would it have windows?"


                    • #11
                      I opened this thread not because I encounter lots of virus and stuff. I opened this thread because all these new security software that I have never heard of are making me paranoid.

                      why are internet security companies releasing these products? what new threats are available on the internet? I want to know if internet is really as malicious as these corporations want me to believe. that was my question in this topic. either I misphrased it somewhere, or you misread my question.
                      All you need is love, all you want is sex, all you have is porn - some random scribbling in a public bathroom.


                      • #12
                        They make it so you will buy it. Most paranoid people will buy into their advice and propaganda of a dangerous internet. The buy their software to put up a useless wall to protect from a nonexistent threat. The internet is no more dangerous now then it was five years ago. All the companies are doing now is putting everything in one package instead of you having to buy many. How dangerous the internet is depends on how you use it. that is all it boils down to.
                        “If Apple made a car would it have windows?"


                        • #13
                          In fact, the only things you need is actually a firewall, a scanner and a smart user to prevent infections...
                          I hardly see any virus from my heavy multimedia loading in western and asian torrents. When they show up, they usually obvious too.
                          I know some people who torrents and installed no programs mentioned earlier... And he didnt get any problems at all for almost a year now...


                          • #14
                            I do agree with having an AV and firewall. There are some security suites which are 'all-in-one' packages, which may be something you want to consider. IIRC, Kaspersky, ESET and Zonealarm all offer all-in-one packages (none free, although with ESET Smart Security, you can use update logins from a certain Chinese site).

                            As long as you don't download and run stupidly, you minimise your chances to almost nil. There's always a tiny chance you'll have the misfortune of coming up against a completely new virus, or you get targeted by a hacker (unlikely), so you're never safe.

                            There's something else I use for additional protection, and that's Sandboxie. It's sorta like a VM, and isn't entirely necessary. Freeware, pay a fee to unlock certain features that aren't entirely needed.


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ChronoSphere View Post
                              Don't really think pg2 is a placebo... well, w/e. it didn't block anything i didn't want it to block so far.
                              this do you for the one and to add more here's another and make sure you read the whole of that thread (all 11 pages) and just for an extra kicking read the second post in this thread for another reason why PG2 is so useless.