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If not, I'll be trying to enlighten you here. You see the common thought by not only people like us, but also hentai and/or anime designers seems to be: later cup size letter = bigger breasts While this thought doesn't get everything completely backwards it's still a horrible, horrible oversimplification of how cup sizes actually work. So the first thing you must absolutely ingrain into your brain is: The cup size letter is not an objective measurement of breast volume! So how does it actually work? In the USA, it works as follows: 1. Measure the circumference directly below the breast and inches and round it, then add 4 if it's even or 5 if it's odd. That's X. 2. Measure the circumference over the chest at it's wides point and round it. That's Y. 3. X - Y = Z 4. Convert the value Z to it's corresponding letter in the alphabet The often brought up sizes DD and DDD are actually E and F. Sometimes they're given as such sometimes not, it varies with manufacturer. Some count straight through the alphabet, some go A, B, C, D, DD, F and so forth. Next step: The Value X from above is also the strap size, given in Inches. Let's give an example and since this is HF-Bakunyuu, let's go big. Let's say we have a woman with an unnaturally small 30 inch torso and 45 inch breasts: 30 is an even number so 45-(30+4) = 11 11th letter in the alphabet is K. So we have a female with a whooping 34K here. So do you see where the problem is already? If said woman had the exact same breast circumference and volume, but a bigger ripcage and hence 33 inches instead, she would be a 38G. Despite the size of the breasts being exactly the same. Here's a helpful pic to illustrate the issue: Spoiler Edit: Wow I overlooked that this picture is actually uses british cup sizes in which DD is a seperate size and not equal to E, hope that didn't cause to much confusion. And just to add even more confusion, here are the british sizes in order: AA-A-B-C-D-DD-E-F-FF-G-GG-H-HH-J-JJ-K-KK-L Fun fact: Some British manufactures actually use yet another system whick means one british manufacture's H cup can be another british manufacturer's J cup. Having fun yet? Thankfully this changes within the british system are only relevant to really huge sizes which most real life woman won't have to deal with. See? The cup size can vary a lot without any size change in the actual breasts. But it get's even better! Because as you probably noticed we're attaching a two dimensional value to a three dimensional object here. As breast shapes vary a lot this can get really confusing. In fact apperently even a lot of females get it wrong. So now another thing: As you noticed I used the USA model here. The japanese model uses cm instead of inches and one increase in cup size equals 2,5 cm more circumfence which is roughly the same as an inch. The smallest japanese cup size is actually AAA for less then 5 cm differences between chest and breast. This is followed by AA for 7,5 cm and A for 10 cm which is about four inches difference and if you remember the first step, roughly analogues to the american A cup size. Other than AAA and AA japanese system has no double or tripple sizes. However since japanese women are in general a bit more petite than american ones, they may need a higher cup size to actually equal the same breast size of a western woman. You could probably get a better Idea of the actual size of the breast by using the formula in reverse, but that's only possible if the creators give a number along with the bra size and even then it depends on shape a bit. Since anime breasts rarely tend to "hang low" you'd probably need even higher cup sizes to actually justify them. So if you read this far you'll have noticed that the whole thing is an absolute mess. Now imagine you's be a characterdesigner and have to give cup sizes for you characters. Have fun with that. Obvioulsy, the most reasonable way to measure breast size would be actual volume in a three dimansional value. But that would be totally unpractical to measure. Weight may be another option but is hard to measure as well. So unless technology makes a major leap in this area, We'll be stuck with the cup system. Well, I hope I haven't bored you with this. Also be so nice and notify me if I have made any glaring mistakes here, after all, I don't have breasts to actually test this out.
Indeed, quite the mess. I am generally pretty dumb so I have to say I still don't quite get how the whole measurement is made. Still, I think it has a major flaw. I'm not an expert but I have read that women with naturally (or unnaturally due to surgery) big breasts have back problems due to the weight of the breasts and the strain they cause on the back and waist. If we were to accurately measure breasts, we should add their weight, or something like that. I also get confused by the letter abbreviation since in real life I like women with symmetrical breasts and not too big. But in hentai they can even be the size of milk wagons. So what am I looking for? DDD? GG? XXXYZ? I have no idea. Anyway, for now I will stick with my perfect image of a girl, firmly etched in the back of my mind and search for it in real life. Interesting and educational read, nontheless
Wait Javamaster, you can't be dumb, you're studying abroad...? ('-')? Anyway, about the cup size letter... That's the whole point: The cup size on it's own says absolutely nothing about the actual size unless you know the strap size. That's why you can only give you ideal size as both a number and a letter. So you should know if you like you ideal woman with broad shoulders or not. I thought at least that much should be clear from the pic I posted...? Anyway, since I think I haven't confused you all enough yet let me add some details about how my home country (and most of the Europe) does it: We don't use strep size we use the actual underbust cirumference and our cup size increases by 2 cm instead of 2,5 cm like the japanese and american systems. So our late letters are actually smaller than american and japanese late latters. Are you having fun yet?
This all seems like you need a maths degree to even begin to understand how they measure the boob cups. I personally measure through my eyes on a potential lass who catches my attention. I notice in a lot of Hentai that different artist tend to state a boob size that another artist will give a different size all together, with the boob size appears either bigger or smaller in comparison. Like with SQUEEZ girls compare the diffrent games artist bust sizes and some with a M cup will look tiny while others not so much. http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=182741 http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=833520 I do also like Boobpedia they have a list of cup sizes for various women. http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/CategoryD_cup
Best range is D-H.
Originally Posted by Murderous Int This all seems like you need a maths degree to even begin to understand how they measure the boob cups. Looks like I failed in my task to explain it in an understandable way then. (;~ But even if you don't understand how it actually works I still hope you at least now know that a bigger cup size does not mean a bigger breast. Originally Posted by Murderous Int I do also like Boobpedia they have a list of cup sizes for various women. That's actually a good example for me point, because according too that site the two women I linked bellow actually have the same cupsize. Beginning to understand now? http://www.boobpedia.com/butler/imag...mi_Nanao_2.jpg http://www.boobpedia.com/butler/imag...a_Takigawa.jpg Originally Posted by Priss87 Best range is D-H. As I said, I doubt h-artists know how the system works either. So if you don't give numbers with those letters, you haven't actually said anything. Also, best range is range that can't be measured anymore. (^-^)
I was just joking that it's rather complicated. Your stating breast cup size isn't just based of the boob size but also the size of the torso, complied with the factor of each cup size represents some thing different in some parts of the world and to the equation you used in the example. Which is why I used the Boobpedia link to show that the different measurements can be the same actual size on the person but a different letter depending on the area of the world your from, but also completely different at the same time. Though with this over complication I wouldn't mind if a female is wearing a bra a little to tight due to the confusion and the bosom got to bust out the straps once in a while. They usually list girls on Boobpedia like 30D or 32D, 34D? I figure this is impart to the torso size or the actual breast size? I have a "bad habbit?" of going to http://boobglam.tumblr.com/ a site for the more real life breast lovin'!
Originally Posted by Murderous Int They usually list girls on Boobpedia like 30D or 32D, 34D? I figure this is impart to the torso size or the actual breast size? If we're usung the american system, that's the strap size. 30 meaning she has a torse circumference of either 26 or 25 inches. (Look at step 1) D means her breast circumference at the widest point is 4 inches bigger than her strap size, so 34 inches.
Your like the oppai size sensei. I will need to do more homework. But, Sir "They also add in the 3 body sizes like 36-28-36 inches. Would you say this adds any more of a indicator to the actual size? I believe it's for the ladies Bust-Width-Height?"
Originally Posted by Murderous Int But, Sir "The also add in the 3 body sizes like 36-28-36 inches. Would you say this adds any more of a indicator to the actual size? I believe it's for the ladies Bust-Width-Height?" I'm sure the first number is the under bust circumference in the japanese system. I'm less sure about the american system though. Keep in mind that the japanese system does not give strap sizes with bra size, they give the actual circumference, that's why you sometimes see the cup size directly after the first number. In the american system you had to add 4 or 5 to it wether it's even or uneven. Since you gave inches (japanese is in cm) the strap size of the female would be 40. So if she's a D-cup = 40D, meaning a 44 inch bust.
