Thread: Save Our Hardcore-Hentai!
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07-10-2009, 08:23 PM #1
Save Our Hardcore-Hentai!
Help with the petition text! (was originally on the second page) We may still have minor fixes.
We also need someone with good Japanese to translate it!
thedarkangel is maintaining a pdf version of the petition text for paper mails.
There's also a similar petition, a joint letter by Dan Kanemitsu, that you can support as well!
See also Yestofreedom.org thread - Document on eroge
Shiranaihito has written a letter to UN CEDAW Comittee (you should read his note as well)
Originally Posted by Petition Title
Originally Posted by Petition Description
Modifications/additions/suggestions guys! Come on!
Originally Posted by Petition Text
This is my first time of an attempt to write a legalese, I'm an engineer not lawyer. I hope someone who's familiar with the jargon comes up soon.
I should also point out that English is not my mother language, so it may need grammatical/structural corrections as well.
We are also allowed to attach a list of URLs, I'm thinking of adding one from Sankaku Complex, one from Canned Dogs, and from Equality Now's site and one from Wikipedia (Freedom of Speech)
And this one: http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/8sv.pdf
Also required is a petition title and a short (25 words max) petition description.
(my original first post begins here
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I've been reading the stuff going on, primary on Canned Dogs, and we have several debates on the topic around.
Various eroge producers who are facing this thread have disabled foreign access to their websites as a reaction to hentai censorship. You should read the notice minori's homepage
However, I think threat big for us too! To my surprise, nowhere on the net was I able to find a protest campaign against this ban, led by Equality Now. At least in any site in English. These guys actually need our help.
I personally took Minori's advice and sent my complain to officials . I think you guys should do as well.
The so-called Equality Now is pretty active in putting pressure, just check out their campaign page. If you check out that page, you'll see template letters they prepared for their supporters to send to Illusion, Amazon and worst, Japanese officials Obviously, they are able to put pressure on them.
I think we should start a campaign as well. I'm no good with legalese or such stuff so I can't write a good "template mail" to send Japanese officials, but well, I did my call. Hopefully, someone here might prepare a good template for us all.
From what I see from Sankaku Complex's summary of events, I don't think that Equality Now has a strong legal basis. The legal arugment they're invoking is
which is quite a vague statement. However, I don't think it's that vague to conclude that these fictional depictions are "social and cultural pattern of conduct of men and women" or "discrimination in political, economic or social relations because of race, creed, sex, social status or family origin"
Originally Posted by their template mail
they're just taking the advantage of common taboos and gathering a herd to bend Japan to their will (see Sankaku's website for reference links):
An Irish rag on a slow news day picks up the story that importers have been selling Rapelay via Amazon. The theme is that the game encourages rape and is child pornography.
Amazon completely drops the product, including in Japan. Other retailers soon follow suit.
Feminist busybody group “Equality Now”, which organises spam campaigns to keep its members busy without actually having to deal with problems directly, targets the game, accusing it of human rights violations and telling the Japanese government it should be banning this sort of thing, like low crime paradises such as the UK.
The developers tell the foreign feminists to get lost.
Soon after the Rapelay developers cave in and completely remove the game from distribution.
Equality Now’s Japanese lawyer (the group has no presence in Japan) drums up anti-eroge media attention.
A Japanese diet member, an avowed feminist, picks up on the scandal and starts calling for a ban. Objections start with the opposition and minor parties and soon the ruling party jumps onto the bandwagon.
A “study group” is organised to decide how best to ban the games.
Broadcaster TBS falsely reports that the EOCS has banned the games.
The EOCS bans the games.
At no point at any time has any evidence that such games (which amount to illustrated novels) contribute to sexual assault been presented.
I'd like to point out that if they're actually standing on principle, whole gaming world 90% should face their doom, for almost all games depict some sort of violence (which is regulated by similar rules, under human rights), both against men and women, and no one is trying to censor them --where's Equality Now?
Mind you that such games are labeled as such, and are not forced to remove their contents.
Nor there is such big fuss about Japanese AVs or even US' own extreme stuff. And thing is, they are yet to form a solid connection between fictional depictions and the legal terms they are invoking, which is not equal to manipulative protesting voice of a group of feminsts, or zillions of copy-paste mails.
There's a lot of hyporicsy going around in this business, so please, even if you're not into the hardcore stuff, stand on principle and write to Japanese government. Or do something.Last edited by truehentai; 07-25-2009 at 08:23 AM.
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08-06-2009, 08:49 PM #111
This link was posted in another thread here at HF though I did not see it in this one.
They also have letters in the works as well
http://www.yestofreedom.org/
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08-07-2009, 10:11 PM #112
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@Susume: Yes, I've seen that group. There's a link to them in the first post. They seem like great allies. I will see if I can get their support, or at least let them know of our efforts.
I feel our e-mail campaign is ready to go at this point. If nobody has any further comments about it, we will start tomorrow.
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08-08-2009, 12:45 AM #113
Arrr! Full speed ahead! Man the cannons, hoist the colors, and prepare to board!
... That's the beer talking.
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08-08-2009, 05:27 PM #114
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Our e-mail campaign to Equality Now's sponsors (Updated for 2008 sponsors)
Here it is: Your way to fight back against Equality Now. Tell their corporate sponsors just how irresponsible Equality Now has acted in their campaign against hentai.
Here is the e-mail form letter you can send to those sponsors:
Spoiler
Here is the list of their corporate sponsors which can be contacted by e-mail:
And these sponsors can only be contaced by paper mail, for those of you willing to mail a few envelopes:A. G. Foundation: foundation@fb.org
Carlson Family Foundation: david.nelson@carlson.com
Comic Relief: complaints@comicrelief.com
Done the Impossible, LLC: brian@donetheimpossible.com
Hunt Alternatives Fund: information@huntalternatives.org
Lifetime Entertainment: Wong@lifetimetv.com
New Field Foundation: info@newfieldfound.org
New York Community Trust: info@nyct-cfi.org
New York Women’s Foundation: info@nywf.org
NoVo Foundation: info@novofoundation.org
Justice Initiative: info@justiceinitiative.org
Moriah Fund: info@moriahfund.org
Oak Foundation: info@oakfnd.ch
Patrick & Aimee Butler Foundation: kerrieb@butlerfamilyfoundation.org
Sigrid Rausing Trust: info@srtrust.org
Tides Foundation: info@tides.org
Women Donors Network: (web page only) http://womendonors.org/contact
Women’s Foundation of Colorado: wfco@wfco.org
Working Assets: info@credoaction.com
***New for 2008***
Eileen Fisher, Inc.: ahall@eileenfisher.com
Flora Family Foundation: info@florafamily.org
NEPAD: (web page only) http://www.nepad.org/feedback/lang/en
NIKE Foundation: NIKE.FOUNDATION@NIKE.COM
The Global Hunger Project: info@thp.org
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All you need to do are three easy steps:
1. COPY the text of the letter from the spoiler above, or from the .TXT file attachment below.
2. PASTE the text of the letter into an e-mail document (or the appropriate web page). Feel free to add your own comments but please keep it tasteful. Or write your own letter about why they should not continue to fund Equality Now. It's your choice. As for the subject line, you can put something like "Stop funding Equality Now" or whatever you want.
3. SEND the letter to each of the e-mail addresses above. You can also print the letter and mail it to each of the above mailing addresses as well.
Remember, Equality Now cannot operate its campaigns without the financial support of these sponsors. If we can convince just one sponsor to stop giving money, it will be a huge blow to Equality Now. They did not expect all the "hate mail" we gave them, and I'm sure they didn't expect us to go after their precious source of funding. This is sure to make them feel some serious pain and fear. The fear of losing money may itself be enough to make Equality Now back down, but nothing will happen unless ALL of us participate.
We need EVERYONE to send those letters. This is your chance to do something for the future of hentai. I have put the sword in your hands. All you have to do now is take a swing at those bastards who think you shouldn't enjoy hentai.
Or would you rather do nothing and let the feminazis win? It's your choice.Last edited by Shiranaihito; 10-27-2009 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Added 2008 sponsors & Removed one sponsor
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08-16-2009, 09:38 PM #115
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will do, thanks
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08-16-2009, 10:59 PM #116
very nice, will do my part
business as usual
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08-17-2009, 12:18 AM #117
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i'd be happy to do that
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08-17-2009, 08:15 AM #118
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Spread the word
First of all, I want to say thanks to everyone who took part in our e-mail campaign to Equality Now's sponsors. It feels good to fight back, doesn't it?
What we ought to do now is try to advertise a bit. Let more people know that they can participate in this effort. Hongfire is just one group of hentai fans. There are many other anime groups out there who share our same goals and I'm sure they'd love the chance to take a shot at EN. Maybe some of you out there are members of these other websites or know how to contact these other groups. So for those of you who can, please contact these other anime forums and let them know about this. Post this link wherever you can:
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1967934&postcount=115
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08-17-2009, 02:59 PM #119
I've already posted the petition and this topic at my sites chat box and asked a friend to post it at his site so hopefully someone will take notice and will want to join in.
My 3D custom Girl onedrive and google folders. many mods and tools for the game are uploaded to them.
http://1drv.ms/1Lo7XGn
https://drive.google.com/folderview?...FU&usp=sharing

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08-17-2009, 04:19 PM #120
I don't want to derail this at all and don't have anything to contribute, but I'd just like to give you all a big thanks for everything going on here!
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