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Thread: [ILLUSION] ARTIFICIAL ACADEMY 2 (ジンコウガクエン2) [MASTER UP] [FULL MAKER OUT]

  1. [ILLUSION] ARTIFICIAL ACADEMY 2 (ジンコウガクエン2) [MASTER UP] [FULL MAKER OUT]



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    In your heart of hearts, always remember the Illusion Grief Cycle.
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    Can't believe we're using the original cycle

    Straw poll:
    Which was your favorite AA personality?

    Are you planning on buying AA2?

    Last edited by thelulz; 06-09-2014 at 11:50 PM.

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by gothicat View Post
    @All: While I'm extremely happy over people being so accepting over yaoi, I think we're all forgetting another group that Illusion unfairly ignores too: otome gamers. We do not have a game to call our own too, which is retarded since:
    a)The otome market is huge nowadays, in case you guys haven't noticed by all the anime based on otome games we've been getting the past few years. And the overflow of them on the app market, including more of those app games in English than even the regular visual novels. And for those who think most otome gamers only like the all ages thing, you clearly haven't been on tumblr and seen most of the girls salivate over the newest r-18 game (fucking bees). Or the overflow of the otome drama CD market, which has many r-18 series.
    b)It's still straight sex, so I doubt most of Illusion's usual market would be turned off by it. Some of them might even like the option to play as a girl. And they could use most of the same animations too!

    The original AA1 wasn't a game for us even though we could play as a girl, since the guy customization there was so limited. And the guys didn't moan during sex or have that many expressions compared to the girls, huge turn off (although I'll admit they were still way more expressive than in the usual Illusion games). AA2 seems to be going on a better direction, so maybe....but then we see the same 4 personalities while the girls have 15 or so. Given otoge's and r-18 CD's popularity, it can't be because it's hard to find VA for it. So I really don't see their hangup over it.

    Now, if Illusion does makes the guys as expressive as the girls, then I'll eat my own words and accept the game even with the few personalities. I'll take them as them testing out the market with tentative resources. And for those who hate the guys moaning, they could just add an option to turn it off during H. Everybody happy! I doubt it TBH, but I'm still holding out hope for the guys being more expressive at least. I still think the guy in SM2 was the cutest of all Illusion guys because of that reason.

    Now about the update next week, a possible interview? In all my years of being with Illusion, I don't recall them doing that. Either way, nice to know we'll have something worthwhile next week. As for the "dating" thing, maybe it's what we can do on weekends? That's probably why we can see the town in some of the screens, but this is just me speculating.
    Exactly! Even if there's no yaoi I will still play it as an otome game! I already have a lot of reverse harem situations playing out in my head. I just really hope the guys moan, though...

    Also, there was a yaoi mod for the first Artificial Academy. So even if Illusion doesn't add it there could still be a mod for it.
    Last edited by ninjamitsuki; 04-19-2014 at 09:01 PM.

  4. #1792
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjamitsuki View Post
    Exactly! Even if there's no yaoi I will still play it as an otome game! I already have a lot of reverse harem situations playing out in my head. I just really hope the guys moan, though...

    Also, there was a yaoi mod for the first Artificial Academy. So even if Illusion doesn't add it there could still be a mod for it.
    yeaaaah though the mod was awesome it never gave me that yaoi feel because there were no male moans in their voices so I'd prefer there to be actual yaoi with voices in the game or it won't give me that same feel I expect from most yaoi's, also I had to decide if I wanted just boys with yaoi or boys and girls without yaoi scenes and that was not very fun because I like my school to have variety
    I did my waiting! 12 years of it! in hentai land!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by ninjamitsuki View Post
    Exactly! Even if there's no yaoi I will still play it as an otome game! I already have a lot of reverse harem situations playing out in my head. I just really hope the guys moan, though...

    Also, there was a yaoi mod for the first Artificial Academy. So even if Illusion doesn't add it there could still be a mod for it.
    W-wait a second... y-yaoi mod for Artificial Academy?
    Does that really exist?

  6. #1794
    Quote Originally Posted by ShikiMisaki View Post
    W-wait a second... y-yaoi mod for Artificial Academy?
    Does that really exist?
    check the mod thread it exist in AA1

  7. The original AA1 wasn't a game for us even though we could play as a girl, since the guy customization there was so limited. And the guys didn't moan during sex or have that many expressions compared to the girls, huge turn off (although I'll admit they were still way more expressive than in the usual Illusion games). AA2 seems to be going on a better direction, so maybe....but then we see the same 4 personalities while the girls have 15 or so. Given otoge's and r-18 CD's popularity, it can't be because it's hard to find VA for it. So I really don't see their hangup over it.
    I'd like more male options and personalities myself, however there are a few things that people tend to forget here and I feel that I have to address those :
    1) Japanese eroge makers are made of very small companies. Illusion even had to take down it's sister companies to boost it's own ranks (probably to finish AA2 among other things). And small numbers obviously means small production value, especially when it's coupled with the fast production cycle of their industry.
    2) People have certain expectations of developpers, and their games have predetermined targets. Illusion's main target is the hetero male otaku, everything else comes second, just like otome and yaoi games are made for females (it's even in the name).
    3) What's difficult isn't finding VA's, but paying them. AA1 had 25 personalities and they all have their own VA, wich is quite impressive since it's common to give multiple roles to the same VA in order to cut down cost. Adding more male personality means spending more budget on hiring new male voice actors when you can spend that budget on more production time to include more features.
    They decided to go for the second option at the cost of not widening their audience, that's not a bad choice.

    Illusion isn't unfair. They catter to their own audience like every respectable game developper does. Nobody is asking otome game makers to satisfy males or Alice Soft to put traps, full blown gay sex or have a female lead and focus in their games (I wouldn't say no to a spin-off of Rance with the genderbent Rance though), it's the same for companies like KISS or Illusion, they make games for hetero men rather than fujoshi and there is nothing wrong with that. Because at the end of the day, they have limited means, and they have to use those effectively to make games that satisfy both them and their core audience, wich means that widening their audience is only a dangerous option as they can barely manage to keep their core audience satisfied.

    That said, It's true that when it comes to 3D games, there isn't any developper making games geared toward fujoshi. But that's understandable, 3D eroge is already a niche of a niche, it will take time before someone start to make games for a particular demographic within that niche.
    Last edited by Knoloa; 04-20-2014 at 02:49 AM.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Nanao View Post
    I'm more of a "small to normal breastsize" guy. I don't like boobs big enough to kill people/destroy cities with them.
    Personally, I won't even give the time of day to a girl who can't level, at the very least, a moderately-sized town with her knockers.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Knoloa View Post
    3) What's difficult isn't finding VA's, but paying them. AA1 had 25 personalities and they all have their own VA, wich is quite impressive since it's common to give multiple roles to the same VA in order to cut down cost. Adding more male personality means spending more budget on hiring new male voice actors when you can spend that budget on more production time to include more features.
    But they could have at least paid the male VA they already had to do voices during H, and let people who don't like it turn their voices off during H. And there you go, they've appealed to whole new market just with that. Everything else to appeal to the otome market was already there, as limited as it was. Especially since the whole subtleties of the H system seems to rely on voices, so without that it's very hard to please a male partner, and they did nothing to compensate for that. Like I said before, at least add more expressions so I can know how well I'm doing. I get your point, but TBH, judging by most of their games in the past few years, it doesn't seem like Illusions is trying very hard to please even their main fan base at all. And that's their own fault, they are the ones who choose to do more VN like games instead of interactive H that got them popular in the first place.

    But I'm tired of complaining about this, at the end of the day, Illusion will do what they want to do, and whether that will be to go the extra mile or not remains to be seen. They probably won't and I'm fully expecting that, but what are Illusion pre-release threads for if not to dream high? It's not like most of their last games have given us any enjoyment other than that.

    To add to my complaints about H, I hope we can choose what position we start H in this time. I just wanted to have one of my virgin female characters give a guy a BJ, but there she went and choose the cowgirl position to start with, so her virginity was gone without my command. So annoying!
    Last edited by gothicat; 04-20-2014 at 04:03 AM.

  10. #1798
    I totally agree with the Knoloa points, I'd just like to add the following to the "why aren't there any more" personalities discussion: Please consider that each personality has towards 400 lines (if there are indeed 50% more than AA1's ~260 lines) add to this all the moans (4 levels), BJ sounds (4 levels), Cunnilingus sounds, fondling sounds, H lines (which aren't translated) and climax (probably 3 levels). All of these lines have to be recorded (and some maybe recorded several times because they were too long, too short, etc). The H moans will have to be edited with great skill, so that they seamlessly fit "together". Multiply this with 24+ and you've probably realized that a large part of this game's budget went into the personalities already.

    As a slight comfort to those unhappy with what's included, we already know that there will be at least one more personality at game launch and a fifth male personality is rumored to be released as 0-day DLC/preorder bonus as well.

    Pure speculation: Given how much love and effort they've obviously put into making AA2, I have a gut feeling that they are already planning an expansion, which I'm guessing would include at the very least 3 new personalities, but that's just me speculating and I have nothing but gut feeling to back it up.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Inquisitor View Post
    Multiply this with 24+ and you've probably realized that a large part of this game's budget went into the personalities already.
    Well, mostly 21, since the guys didn't do any of that H stuff, so their work would be a lot easier and cheaper. I doubt that's changed with AA2. But what I really want to talk about is the dialogue thing, you guys think we're gonna get different H dialogue depending on traits, is it just going to be a regular dialogue thing? Because if traits do affect H dialogue, and you multiply that by 21+, that'd make the extra dialogue there is to translate about 30% instead of 50%, since the H lines aren't translated.

    On another note, I wish they'd tell us if the pre-order bonus is a male or female voice already, while the 31% off on ami ami still lasts.
    Last edited by gothicat; 04-20-2014 at 05:25 AM.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by gothicat View Post
    On another note, I wish they'd tell us if the pre-order bonus is a male or female voice already, while the 31% off on ami ami still lasts.
    The Pre-order bonus for the majority of retailers is the hairpack. While the english Amiami page for AA2 doesn't mention a pre-order bonus, I'm sure the hairpack will be included with orders. The extra female personality is a special pre-order bonus only available to those ordering from Illusion's online shop. I don't see where an extra male personality pre-order bonus is mentioned anywhere, but maybe I'm wrong. Correct me if I am.

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